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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.000]  THE LORD OF THE SKIES
[00:30.000 --> 00:35.000]  Are you anti-immigrants or will the Latinos decide who will be the next president?
[00:35.000 --> 00:40.000]  We ask our analysts, Helena Aguirre and Fabian Núñez.
[00:40.000 --> 00:43.000]  Today we have three correspondents of Univision.
[00:43.000 --> 00:45.000]  Blanca Rosa Vilches, who covers New York.
[00:45.000 --> 00:48.000]  Edgar Muñoz, who is in Mexico City.
[00:48.000 --> 00:51.000]  And Maria Antonita Collins, who has not stopped traveling everywhere,
[00:51.000 --> 00:54.000]  but who has recently been a lot in Alabama.
[00:54.000 --> 00:57.000]  We talk to them about the best and worst of 2011,
[00:57.000 --> 01:00.000]  and the upcoming elections in the United States,
[01:00.000 --> 01:03.000]  Mexico, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic.
[01:03.000 --> 01:08.000]  And of course, the next trip of Pope Benedict XVI to Mexico and Cuba.
[01:08.000 --> 01:13.000]  And it has not gone very well with the segment called Your Point in three words.
[01:13.000 --> 01:18.000]  And so, in three words, we will see what to expect for 2012.
[01:18.000 --> 01:36.000]  Let's start.
[01:36.000 --> 01:39.000]  Let's get to the point. This is our first program of 2012,
[01:39.000 --> 01:43.000]  and therefore we are going to take a look at what we can expect here in the United States and in Latin America.
[01:43.000 --> 01:46.000]  But if you think it's okay, let's start with the United States.
[01:46.000 --> 01:48.000]  The elections seem to dominate everything.
[01:48.000 --> 01:52.000]  Democrats and Republicans simply do not agree on anything, on anything.
[01:52.000 --> 01:56.000]  And the question is, if nothing will happen during 11 months until the elections.
[01:56.000 --> 02:00.000]  To talk to us about all this, we are accompanied by the Democratic congressman of California, Javier Becerra.
[02:00.000 --> 02:02.000]  He accompanies us via satellite from Washington.
[02:02.000 --> 02:05.000]  And the Republican congresswoman of Florida, Ileana Rosletina.
[02:05.000 --> 02:07.000]  Both, thank you for being here with us.
[02:07.000 --> 02:09.000]  Congresswoman Becerra, I would like to start with you.
[02:09.000 --> 02:10.000]  Happy New Year.
[02:10.000 --> 02:11.000]  Happy New Year.
[02:11.000 --> 02:15.000]  They are really not going to agree on anything, Republicans and Democrats.
[02:15.000 --> 02:21.000]  Are we going to continue to lengthen and lengthen everything until the November elections?
[02:21.000 --> 02:27.000]  It seems that this is the plan of the Republicans to conduct the business here in this way.
[02:27.000 --> 02:32.000]  Unfortunately, the ones who lose are the ones who try to work in this country.
[02:32.000 --> 02:35.000]  But there is a way to unite.
[02:35.000 --> 02:39.000]  Ileana and I have united several times on very important issues,
[02:39.000 --> 02:43.000]  immigration, creating a Latin museum here in Washington, D.C.
[02:43.000 --> 02:46.000]  We are partners in this kind of initiative.
[02:46.000 --> 02:49.000]  It can be done, but one has to want to do it.
[02:49.000 --> 02:55.000]  And it seems that at this moment the Republican Party is not ready to work with President Obama.
[02:55.000 --> 02:58.000]  It seems to me, and it is very clear, that you two have worked together.
[02:58.000 --> 02:59.000]  That is why we have invited you.
[02:59.000 --> 03:04.000]  But Congresswoman, sometimes it gives the impression that the Republican Party has made the calculation that
[03:04.000 --> 03:08.000]  we are not going to let President Barack Obama have any triumph so that he does not go to re-elect.
[03:08.000 --> 03:10.000]  And therefore, we do not want to cooperate in anything.
[03:10.000 --> 03:11.000]  Is this appreciation fair?
[03:11.000 --> 03:14.000]  Well, I think this analysis is not fair.
[03:14.000 --> 03:21.000]  Because what we are against as a party is politics.
[03:21.000 --> 03:28.000]  What President Obama wants to do, which is to raise taxes, more regulations for small businesses.
[03:28.000 --> 03:35.000]  He does not want to reform the complex tax system in the United States.
[03:35.000 --> 03:41.000]  So when we say no to those proposals and advance our proposals,
[03:41.000 --> 03:46.000]  people say, oh, well, you just want to attack President Obama.
[03:46.000 --> 03:51.000]  No, what we want is to restore the economy, create jobs.
[03:51.000 --> 03:55.000]  And we have a terrible economic situation in the United States.
[03:55.000 --> 04:00.000]  And it is the fault of President Obama, but we, Republicans and Democrats,
[04:00.000 --> 04:06.000]  we have to unite because the public is unfair to all of us, without exception.
[04:06.000 --> 04:11.000]  Congresswoman Abecerra, what is the argument for the president of the United States, Barack Obama, to re-elect?
[04:11.000 --> 04:15.000]  What has President Barack Obama done well?
[04:15.000 --> 04:22.000]  The president has to do what he is doing, which is to fight, as he teaches at this time, to fight for the middle class.
[04:22.000 --> 04:30.000]  We see the shame that this battle with the Republicans in the House of Representatives was to pass a tax cut
[04:30.000 --> 04:34.000]  for the 160 million workers in this country.
[04:34.000 --> 04:37.000]  The president will not let go of that matter,
[04:37.000 --> 04:41.000]  just as he will not let go of the matter of reforming the immigration laws,
[04:41.000 --> 04:45.000]  although the Republicans every time reject an effort to do so.
[04:45.000 --> 04:49.000]  So what we see is that the president only has to walk forward.
[04:49.000 --> 04:54.000]  The moment has to come when the Republicans are going to work with him.
[04:54.000 --> 04:58.000]  Congresswoman Abecerra, what has the president of Barack Obama not done well?
[04:58.000 --> 05:04.000]  Well, the economy. He said that, first, when this plan that was a total failure,
[05:04.000 --> 05:09.000]  the stimulus plan, which cost how much money?
[05:09.000 --> 05:12.000]  It is that every day is a higher astronomical figure.
[05:12.000 --> 05:17.000]  It was a tremendous failure, it did not stimulate an economy, it did not create new jobs.
[05:17.000 --> 05:21.000]  But this was not the work of President George W. Bush, a terrible economic crisis.
[05:21.000 --> 05:27.000]  Well, but each president has to take responsibility.
[05:27.000 --> 05:31.000]  I believe that after three and a half years of President Obama,
[05:31.000 --> 05:35.000]  it is time to say, look, I am the one who has created the problem.
[05:35.000 --> 05:41.000]  He is the one who tried to pass and passed the stimulus plan that did not create new jobs.
[05:41.000 --> 05:46.000]  He is the one who said that we were not going to have a unemployment rate of more than 8%.
[05:46.000 --> 05:52.000]  We are at 9%, 10%. Here in the south of Florida, sometimes we have reached more than 13%.
[05:52.000 --> 05:55.000]  If the economy does not improve, and hopefully it improves,
[05:55.000 --> 06:00.000]  I do not see how President Obama is going to go out to the public to say,
[06:00.000 --> 06:05.000]  I deserve to be re-elected to continue this tragedy of the economy.
[06:05.000 --> 06:07.000]  Congresswoman Abecerra, it is not the economy of President Obama anymore.
[06:07.000 --> 06:11.000]  It is true that he inherited a terrible economic crisis, but after three years,
[06:11.000 --> 06:16.000]  he is no longer responsible for President Barack Obama, if things go well or badly.
[06:16.000 --> 06:19.000]  The president is the one who directs.
[06:19.000 --> 06:25.000]  But we have to remember, the month he took the keys to the White House,
[06:25.000 --> 06:33.000]  the economy of this country lost almost 800,000 jobs in that month of January 2009,
[06:33.000 --> 06:36.000]  during the time of George Bush.
[06:36.000 --> 06:41.000]  In the last three years, we have created three million new jobs,
[06:41.000 --> 06:44.000]  more than in eight years under President Bush.
[06:44.000 --> 06:49.000]  So President Obama is now ready to say, we have not done enough, but we have done something.
[06:49.000 --> 06:54.000]  But to say that nothing has been done is not to talk about reality.
[06:54.000 --> 06:57.000]  And what we need to do is to move forward.
[06:57.000 --> 06:59.000]  And that is what I think the president says.
[06:59.000 --> 07:03.000]  I do not care what the politicians or the political words that some say.
[07:03.000 --> 07:07.000]  I am going to move forward for the people so that I can work.
[07:07.000 --> 07:10.000]  Well, I agree that we should not judge him by his words.
[07:10.000 --> 07:13.000]  I want to judge him by his actions.
[07:13.000 --> 07:19.000]  The facts are that we have a disastrous economy, that we are not creating jobs,
[07:19.000 --> 07:24.000]  that we are recording terrible taxes to small merchants,
[07:24.000 --> 07:29.000]  that he passed a health reform law that was going to have so much bureaucracy
[07:29.000 --> 07:33.000]  because of the taxes that we have tried to give back to that.
[07:33.000 --> 07:38.000]  So hopefully he will make his campaign based on the stimulus plan,
[07:38.000 --> 07:41.000]  the health reform plan and on immigration.
[07:41.000 --> 07:44.000]  What is he going to say to the Latino community?
[07:44.000 --> 07:47.000]  He is still going to talk about hope and change.
[07:47.000 --> 07:51.000]  Where is what he has done in those years?
[07:51.000 --> 07:55.000]  Where is President Obama's leadership with these issues?
[07:55.000 --> 08:00.000]  I would like to finish by giving each of you the opportunity to tell us what is going to happen in 2012.
[08:00.000 --> 08:03.000]  Congresswoman Becerra, what do you expect for 2012?
[08:03.000 --> 08:06.000]  We will continue to see more Republicans and Democrats fighting.
[08:06.000 --> 08:08.000]  Everything will be concentrated in the presidential campaign.
[08:08.000 --> 08:11.000]  How do you see 2012?
[08:11.000 --> 08:14.000]  Jorge, I think the people have woken up.
[08:14.000 --> 08:20.000]  I do not think we will ever see a people that lets the richest people in this country receive tax cuts
[08:20.000 --> 08:24.000]  while those who work, the Republicans, tell them nothing.
[08:24.000 --> 08:30.000]  I think that 99%, as they are called, have woken up.
[08:30.000 --> 08:32.000]  And I think that will help us accomplish things.
[08:32.000 --> 08:35.000]  Because without that, politicians only fight.
[08:35.000 --> 08:39.000]  But in this serious moment where we need to create more jobs,
[08:39.000 --> 08:42.000]  I think this is the time to unite with the president,
[08:42.000 --> 08:46.000]  who has said, for me, the most important thing is to see the middle class rise.
[08:46.000 --> 08:52.000]  If we do that, this country will continue to be the most important country in the world.
[08:52.000 --> 08:54.000]  Ms. Rosleten, I would like to finish with you.
[08:54.000 --> 08:58.000]  Isn't it enough what President Barack Obama has done at the level of foreign relations?
[08:58.000 --> 09:03.000]  The death of Osama Bin Laden, the death of the Libyan leader, the end of the war in Iraq.
[09:03.000 --> 09:05.000]  Aren't these achievements enough?
[09:05.000 --> 09:09.000]  I congratulate him because these are achievements of the armed forces.
[09:09.000 --> 09:17.000]  And I think it is correct when President Obama continued with the leadership and politics of George W. Bush
[09:17.000 --> 09:19.000]  to end these terrorists.
[09:19.000 --> 09:22.000]  Remember that President Obama, when he was a senator,
[09:22.000 --> 09:26.000]  was voting against all the measures of President Bush.
[09:26.000 --> 09:30.000]  But when he took office, he realized all the dangers.
[09:30.000 --> 09:33.000]  He followed that policy of George W. Bush.
[09:33.000 --> 09:40.000]  And thanks to a 100% patriotic and brave military armed forces,
[09:40.000 --> 09:42.000]  we have achieved all these things.
[09:42.000 --> 09:48.000]  But to give all these achievements to Obama is to take all the credit from those who deserve that credit.
[09:48.000 --> 09:51.000]  Which is the armed forces, thanks to them.
[09:51.000 --> 09:55.000]  Elena Rosleten and Javier Becerra, thank you both very much for being with us.
[09:55.000 --> 09:58.000]  And I would like to remind you that you were with us exactly a year ago.
[09:58.000 --> 10:00.000]  It is a tradition.
[10:00.000 --> 10:02.000]  It is a tradition. Thank you for this continuation.
[10:02.000 --> 10:04.000]  I love you, Javier.
[10:04.000 --> 10:06.000]  I love you too, Ileana.
[10:06.000 --> 10:08.000]  Happy come all.
[10:08.000 --> 10:10.000]  In reality, and I would like to say it publicly,
[10:10.000 --> 10:12.000]  they are an example, despite what we see in Washington,
[10:12.000 --> 10:15.000]  they are an example of how a Democrat and a Republican can work together.
[10:15.000 --> 10:18.000]  I respect you very much, you are a smart person,
[10:18.000 --> 10:21.000]  one of the leaders of the Democratic Party.
[10:21.000 --> 10:23.000]  We need more Javier Becerra.
[10:23.000 --> 10:25.000]  Thank you both, thank you very much.
[10:25.000 --> 10:27.000]  Colleague, colleague.
[10:27.000 --> 10:28.000]  Thank you.
[10:28.000 --> 10:31.000]  When we return, we go to Iowa, where on Tuesday there are elections,
[10:31.000 --> 10:33.000]  but no one wins with polls, only with votes.
[10:33.000 --> 10:35.000]  And there are all the Republican candidates.
[10:35.000 --> 10:39.000]  And we also have an analysis of how 2012 looks with other voices.
[10:39.000 --> 10:45.000]  We'll be right back.
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[13:37.000 --> 13:42.000]  Well, this Tuesday, the first voting or election assemblies in the state of Iowa,
[13:42.000 --> 13:46.000]  and they are decisive to know which Republican candidate is placed as a pointer.
[13:46.000 --> 13:48.000]  So far, everything we've seen has been polls,
[13:48.000 --> 13:52.000]  and the polls put in a fight between Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney with Ron Paul,
[13:52.000 --> 13:53.000]  making him a shadow.
[13:53.000 --> 13:55.000]  But no one wins with polls.
[13:55.000 --> 13:58.000]  If you don't win with polls, you don't win with polls.
[13:58.000 --> 14:01.000]  If you don't win with polls, you don't win with polls.
[14:01.000 --> 14:04.000]  If you don't win with polls, you don't win with polls.
[14:04.000 --> 14:07.000]  If you don't win with polls, you don't win with polls.
[14:07.000 --> 14:11.000]  And that's exactly what's going to happen tomorrow in Iowa.
[14:11.000 --> 14:13.000]  Here's Luis Mejía.
[14:23.000 --> 14:27.000]  Tuesday, this small state of three million people in the center of the country
[14:27.000 --> 14:30.000]  will once again demonstrate how big its political influence is.
[14:30.000 --> 14:34.000]  With Iowa's election assemblies, the primary season begins,
[14:34.000 --> 14:39.000]  and the pre-Republican candidate who wins here also gains the attention of the whole country.
[14:39.000 --> 14:43.000]  The economic resources immediately begin to reach them,
[14:43.000 --> 14:47.000]  because winning in Iowa means that the people who write the checks,
[14:47.000 --> 14:50.000]  the organizations that contribute to the campaigns,
[14:50.000 --> 14:56.000]  see a person who can possibly be the candidate with victory.
[14:56.000 --> 15:00.000]  The Hispanics are the group that is growing faster in the state.
[15:00.000 --> 15:03.000]  They are 5% of the population.
[15:03.000 --> 15:07.000]  But most of them are Democrats, and in the Democratic election assemblies,
[15:07.000 --> 15:09.000]  Barack Obama is the only candidate.
[15:09.000 --> 15:13.000]  In the Republicans, where the voters really have to choose a candidate,
[15:13.000 --> 15:15.000]  the Hispanic influence will be minimal.
[15:15.000 --> 15:20.000]  Lorena López, editor of the press in Iowa, says that there is also a concern.
[15:20.000 --> 15:23.000]  Migration reform is essential.
[15:23.000 --> 15:29.000]  And that is not that Latinos are not interested in other issues,
[15:29.000 --> 15:31.000]  but in the immigration reform,
[15:31.000 --> 15:35.000]  because we are related in one way or another with a person who does not have papers.
[15:35.000 --> 15:39.000]  For its great electoral importance and its small geographical size,
[15:39.000 --> 15:43.000]  Iowa's politics is more intimate and personal than in other parts of the nation.
[15:43.000 --> 15:47.000]  Here, the voters of the state like to know the candidates face to face
[15:47.000 --> 15:50.000]  and give them a hand before making a decision.
[15:50.000 --> 15:54.000]  But this year's campaign has been different from others in the past.
[15:54.000 --> 15:58.000]  More than 16 television debates, not to mention smaller forums,
[15:58.000 --> 16:02.000]  have determined the good or bad fortune of the candidates.
[16:02.000 --> 16:10.000]  The debates this season for pre-voting have been the most important
[16:10.000 --> 16:15.000]  in the last 41 years that I have studied the political process.
[16:15.000 --> 16:19.000]  This is the state where the road to the White House begins.
[16:19.000 --> 16:22.000]  In Des Moines, Iowa, Luis Mejid, Univision.
[16:22.000 --> 16:24.000]  And now to analyze how 2012 comes,
[16:24.000 --> 16:27.000]  we are accompanied by two political analysts from Noticias Univision.
[16:27.000 --> 16:29.000]  Helena Aguirre is a journalist and analyst,
[16:29.000 --> 16:31.000]  member of more than a dozen community organizations
[16:31.000 --> 16:35.000]  linked to all her life with the newspaper Las Américas in the south of Florida.
[16:35.000 --> 16:39.000]  She is in charge of a very popular radio program and, of course, Republican.
[16:39.000 --> 16:42.000]  And she is also with us Fabian Núñez, who was the leader of the California Assembly,
[16:42.000 --> 16:45.000]  who due to local laws was forbidden to re-elect in her position,
[16:45.000 --> 16:48.000]  but who now as an analyst accompanies us here in Univision.
[16:48.000 --> 16:50.000]  Thank you very much for being here with us.
[16:50.000 --> 16:52.000]  Helen, I would like to start with you.
[16:52.000 --> 16:55.000]  What is going to happen with the Republican candidates?
[16:55.000 --> 17:00.000]  We are really seeing Newt Gingrich and Amir Romney fight for the Republican candidacy.
[17:00.000 --> 17:01.000]  There may be more surprises.
[17:01.000 --> 17:03.000]  I think there could be more surprises.
[17:03.000 --> 17:05.000]  What we are going to see begins on January 3.
[17:05.000 --> 17:08.000]  We are going to see the caucus or the Iowa Assembly,
[17:08.000 --> 17:12.000]  where the significant thing there is going to be that you are going to eliminate candidates.
[17:12.000 --> 17:17.000]  Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, the same governor of Texas, Rick Perry,
[17:17.000 --> 17:22.000]  they have to get some very important points to continue being relevant in the campaign.
[17:22.000 --> 17:24.000]  Otherwise, they have to be eliminated.
[17:24.000 --> 17:26.000]  They do not have money, little organization.
[17:26.000 --> 17:30.000]  Rick Perry in that case would be perhaps the exception.
[17:30.000 --> 17:35.000]  What we are seeing in the polls is that a state like Iowa, an assembly like Iowa,
[17:35.000 --> 17:39.000]  candidates that do not reflect what the majority could be in other states,
[17:39.000 --> 17:41.000]  do have great possibilities.
[17:41.000 --> 17:46.000]  In this case, the libertarian Ron Paul has an appointment that is quite significant.
[17:46.000 --> 17:50.000]  He has a very good organization in several states.
[17:50.000 --> 17:56.000]  But Iowa does not mean much in terms of what you can say about what could happen in the other states.
[17:56.000 --> 18:01.000]  First of all, a caucus is an assembly that has very different rules.
[18:01.000 --> 18:05.000]  That is, you arrive at 7 at night, you have to be registered.
[18:05.000 --> 18:07.000]  I am going to give you some statistics.
[18:07.000 --> 18:12.000]  For example, in 2008, only 2% of those who were registered to vote Republican
[18:12.000 --> 18:16.000]  supported the winner, who at that time was Huckabee.
[18:16.000 --> 18:21.000]  69% lived in rural areas, 56% were men.
[18:21.000 --> 18:23.000]  That does not reflect the Republican Party.
[18:23.000 --> 18:25.000]  I want to see now the point of view of a Democrat, Fabian,
[18:25.000 --> 18:28.000]  to see how you are seeing the Republican candidates.
[18:28.000 --> 18:31.000]  Do you really think that the fight is between Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney?
[18:31.000 --> 18:33.000]  Is there nothing else?
[18:33.000 --> 18:38.000]  Well, I think that the caucus assemblies are going to show that
[18:38.000 --> 18:42.000]  Newt Gingrich has the support he needs.
[18:42.000 --> 18:45.000]  It seems that his support is declining.
[18:45.000 --> 18:50.000]  I think Ron Paul is the one who has the most possibility of winning the assemblies in Iowa.
[18:50.000 --> 18:56.000]  But what has been shown in all these debates of the Republican candidates
[18:56.000 --> 19:02.000]  is that they have gone more and more to the right in their political positions,
[19:02.000 --> 19:07.000]  even in the immigrant position that I imagine we will discuss later.
[19:07.000 --> 19:14.000]  But also in terms of how the country would be managed,
[19:14.000 --> 19:19.000]  who is the person who is going to criticize President Obama more,
[19:19.000 --> 19:23.000]  and these debates have gone more and more negative,
[19:23.000 --> 19:27.000]  to the point that Republican voters are not decided
[19:27.000 --> 19:31.000]  on who is going to be the candidate who is going to represent them
[19:31.000 --> 19:33.000]  against President Obama in the November election.
[19:33.000 --> 19:37.000]  Fabián, as you can see, they are looking at who can beat President Barack Obama.
[19:37.000 --> 19:39.000]  They have realized that according to the polls,
[19:39.000 --> 19:43.000]  Newt Gingrich could not win, but that Mitt Romney, perhaps, can.
[19:43.000 --> 19:50.000]  Well, the problem with Mitt Romney is that Mitt Romney has 25% of the vote
[19:50.000 --> 19:52.000]  in all the polls.
[19:52.000 --> 19:56.000]  It does not rise from the 25% of the vote of Republican voters.
[19:56.000 --> 20:01.000]  And from then on, 75% of them do not want him as a candidate.
[20:01.000 --> 20:05.000]  So right now there is a crisis inside the Republican Party
[20:05.000 --> 20:11.000]  because there has not been a candidate who can align well
[20:11.000 --> 20:13.000]  with the tastes of Republican voters.
[20:13.000 --> 20:17.000]  I would like to ask both of you, Helen, about the importance of the Hispanic vote.
[20:17.000 --> 20:21.000]  We always believe that these 12 million Hispanic voters are going to be fundamental,
[20:21.000 --> 20:25.000]  but are the Hispanics really going to have any weight in these elections?
[20:25.000 --> 20:28.000]  Can we decide on the next president of the United States or do we believe it a lot?
[20:28.000 --> 20:31.000]  No, I'm going to tell you, I mean, there really is a possibility.
[20:31.000 --> 20:35.000]  The one who was the architect of the politics of George W. Bush, Karl Rove,
[20:35.000 --> 20:40.000]  was the one who discovered that the Republican Party can really win decisively
[20:40.000 --> 20:44.000]  if it incorporates and snatches from the Democratic Party
[20:44.000 --> 20:48.000]  Hispanic votes that have been key in several districts.
[20:48.000 --> 20:51.000]  You really need 42-43% to win.
[20:51.000 --> 20:57.000]  Currently you have in several districts a 32% that are Republicans, Hispanic Republicans.
[20:57.000 --> 21:04.000]  Really, to be able to win, you have to grab 10%, more or less, depending on the district,
[21:04.000 --> 21:07.000]  to be able to have the majority in a state.
[21:07.000 --> 21:08.000]  I think that's important.
[21:08.000 --> 21:11.000]  Something very interesting has happened in recent months.
[21:11.000 --> 21:17.000]  I agree with Fabián on the dilemma that Newt Kingrich presents for the party,
[21:17.000 --> 21:20.000]  but the positive thing about Newt Kingrich for the Republican Party
[21:20.000 --> 21:23.000]  is that he has opened the debate on the immigration reform,
[21:23.000 --> 21:25.000]  proposing a plan that has been sensible,
[21:25.000 --> 21:30.000]  that incorporates a solution for the legalization of the undocumented
[21:30.000 --> 21:34.000]  without necessarily giving them the possibility of voting.
[21:34.000 --> 21:37.000]  And if Newt Kingrich does not win the nomination,
[21:37.000 --> 21:40.000]  it will not be for his position on the immigration reform,
[21:40.000 --> 21:44.000]  but it would be perhaps to support Freddie Mac.
[21:44.000 --> 21:46.000]  Fabián, I wanted to ask you.
[21:46.000 --> 21:50.000]  You mentioned the importance of the immigration issue for Hispanics.
[21:50.000 --> 21:56.000]  Can the Republican Party win, let's say, 35%, 40% of the Hispanic vote
[21:56.000 --> 22:02.000]  without any kind of flexibility regarding the immigration issue?
[22:02.000 --> 22:04.000]  No, absolutely.
[22:04.000 --> 22:07.000]  Well, if there is no flexibility in the immigration issue,
[22:07.000 --> 22:11.000]  there is no way that the Republican Party can win
[22:11.000 --> 22:13.000]  with Latin voters.
[22:13.000 --> 22:16.000]  And I say this because in key states,
[22:16.000 --> 22:22.000]  like the state of Florida, for example, states like Nevada,
[22:22.000 --> 22:26.000]  in these states, North Carolina,
[22:26.000 --> 22:29.000]  in these states it will be very important,
[22:29.000 --> 22:33.000]  although Latinos are not a majority,
[22:33.000 --> 22:37.000]  if 10,000 of them go out to vote and change their vote
[22:37.000 --> 22:39.000]  from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party,
[22:39.000 --> 22:45.000]  they can make the difference in elections where they are very close
[22:45.000 --> 22:49.000]  in terms of the net votes of the Republicans versus Democrats.
[22:49.000 --> 22:53.000]  But the fundamental point in the immigration issue is that,
[22:53.000 --> 22:57.000]  for example, Mitt Romney has gone to the extreme right
[22:57.000 --> 23:00.000]  in the immigration issue, where he himself is promoting
[23:00.000 --> 23:03.000]  that Latinos must remove the undocumented from the country
[23:03.000 --> 23:09.000]  and register, and I don't know if he is promoting massive deportations
[23:09.000 --> 23:14.000]  or how he intends that undocumented immigrants
[23:14.000 --> 23:18.000]  leave the country, and he is a candidate that is viable
[23:18.000 --> 23:20.000]  for the presidency of the United States.
[23:20.000 --> 23:24.000]  This type of policy, I think, is very dangerous for Republicans
[23:24.000 --> 23:27.000]  in terms of their relationship with the Latino voter.
[23:27.000 --> 23:31.000]  Although I agree that Gingrich has changed his position a little,
[23:31.000 --> 23:36.000]  but I still think that Romney is someone who thinks that
[23:36.000 --> 23:39.000]  going to the extreme right against immigrants,
[23:39.000 --> 23:43.000]  he thinks that will help him, but that does not help him in a general election.
[23:43.000 --> 23:45.000]  I would like to finish with this, ask each of them,
[23:45.000 --> 23:47.000]  and start with you, Helen.
[23:47.000 --> 23:50.000]  What should President Barack Obama do if he seeks re-election?
[23:50.000 --> 23:52.000]  If you had to advise him, what would you say?
[23:52.000 --> 23:54.000]  Well, I think that today he is doing well,
[23:54.000 --> 23:58.000]  taking into account that the statistics show that
[23:58.000 --> 24:03.000]  the economy is slightly healing.
[24:03.000 --> 24:05.000]  We are seeing that there is new construction,
[24:05.000 --> 24:08.000]  unemployment is decreasing.
[24:08.000 --> 24:11.000]  He has to lower corporate taxes.
[24:11.000 --> 24:14.000]  He has to talk about a total restructuring,
[24:14.000 --> 24:17.000]  about how the tax system is hurting.
[24:17.000 --> 24:20.000]  This is also something that the Republican Party wants,
[24:20.000 --> 24:22.000]  but there are problems with infrastructure
[24:22.000 --> 24:24.000]  that have nothing to do with streets and roads,
[24:24.000 --> 24:26.000]  but it has to do with the tax system.
[24:26.000 --> 24:28.000]  We are seeing that in Canada, for example,
[24:28.000 --> 24:33.000]  they have a corporate tax of 18% and they want to lower it to 15%.
[24:33.000 --> 24:38.000]  The United States has the highest corporate tax in the world.
[24:38.000 --> 24:41.000]  There is still economy, economy, economy.
[24:41.000 --> 24:44.000]  And number two, he has to be careful with the Hispanic voter,
[24:44.000 --> 24:47.000]  because he cannot promise an immigration reform again,
[24:47.000 --> 24:50.000]  because President Obama said he was going to do it in the first year,
[24:50.000 --> 24:53.000]  and he didn't, and I think the Hispanic has a reason
[24:53.000 --> 24:56.000]  to feel rejected by the Democratic Party.
[24:56.000 --> 24:57.000]  And Fabián, I finish with you.
[24:57.000 --> 25:01.000]  What should President Barack Obama do if he seeks re-election?
[25:01.000 --> 25:02.000]  Well, three things.
[25:02.000 --> 25:04.000]  One, rebuild the middle class,
[25:04.000 --> 25:07.000]  which has to do strictly with the domestic economy,
[25:07.000 --> 25:09.000]  improve the economy,
[25:09.000 --> 25:13.000]  continue reducing the percentage of people
[25:13.000 --> 25:15.000]  who are not currently employed,
[25:15.000 --> 25:17.000]  and then focus on education.
[25:17.000 --> 25:20.000]  School desertion is a very serious problem,
[25:20.000 --> 25:22.000]  particularly in the Latino community,
[25:22.000 --> 25:24.000]  but in all communities,
[25:24.000 --> 25:28.000]  we have to focus on education and construction of jobs.
[25:28.000 --> 25:32.000]  I think those two points are going to help
[25:32.000 --> 25:35.000]  the president be re-elected once again.
[25:35.000 --> 25:37.000]  Fabián Núñez, Helena Aguirre, thank you for being with us,
[25:37.000 --> 25:38.000]  I appreciate it,
[25:38.000 --> 25:40.000]  and we will be with you throughout the year.
[25:40.000 --> 25:41.000]  Thank you very much.
[25:41.000 --> 25:42.000]  Thank you.
[25:42.000 --> 25:43.000]  Let's take a break.
[25:43.000 --> 25:45.000]  The Pope goes to Cuba and Mexico,
[25:45.000 --> 25:47.000]  and we will also analyze the elections in the United States,
[25:47.000 --> 25:49.000]  Mexico, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic.
[25:49.000 --> 26:15.000]  When we come back...
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[30:22.000 --> 30:26.000]  We return now to the discussion and debate with Jorge Ramos.
[30:26.000 --> 30:27.000]  Good day.
[30:35.000 --> 30:37.000]  This is one of the segments that I enjoy the most throughout the year
[30:37.000 --> 30:39.000]  because three colleagues from Univision are with me.
[30:39.000 --> 30:41.000]  Maria Antonieta Colin returned to this chain.
[30:41.000 --> 30:44.000]  It was now and from where she should never have left.
[30:44.000 --> 30:47.000]  Now she has not stopped traveling and is almost an ambassador to Spain in Alabama.
[30:47.000 --> 30:48.000]  Thanks for being here with us.
[30:48.000 --> 30:49.000]  Thank you Jorge.
[30:49.000 --> 30:53.000]  Thank you. She is with us Blanca Rosaviches, who has covered the city of New York as very few
[30:53.000 --> 30:57.000]  and with a consistency and sensitivity that is difficult to find in that great city.
[30:57.000 --> 30:59.000]  Thank you for being here.
[30:59.000 --> 31:00.000]  Thank you for inviting me.
[31:00.000 --> 31:05.000]  And Edgar Muñoz has had to cover Mexico in one of the bloodiest periods since the Revolution of 1910.
[31:05.000 --> 31:07.000]  So thank you for being here.
[31:07.000 --> 31:09.000]  Thank you for having me.
[31:09.000 --> 31:11.000]  We have two segments with you.
[31:11.000 --> 31:15.000]  I would like to start by asking each of you about the most important thing of 2011.
[31:15.000 --> 31:20.000]  And for you, without a doubt, Maria Antonieta, it has been covering these impressive marches in Alabama, right?
[31:20.000 --> 31:26.000]  Alabama, the Alabama that things happened because nobody thought they were going to happen there after Arizona.
[31:26.000 --> 31:27.000]  People fell asleep.
[31:27.000 --> 31:33.000]  The same activists told us this week, Jorge, we never thought it would happen.
[31:33.000 --> 31:36.000]  We did not organize ourselves and Alabama was left alone.
[31:36.000 --> 31:42.000]  And 200,000 Hispanics, at least, suddenly began to live the unimaginable nightmare,
[31:42.000 --> 31:49.000]  the one that the police, even us as Hispanics, journalists, have to bring the passport,
[31:49.000 --> 31:52.000]  even one of us being afraid that they will stop you.
[31:52.000 --> 31:55.000]  And after seeing those people who have to be taken on buses,
[31:55.000 --> 32:00.000]  that the supermarkets are taking them on buses, in trucks to buy their food,
[32:00.000 --> 32:06.000]  mothers who are afraid to go to the hospital and endure taking herbal teas and medicines,
[32:06.000 --> 32:09.000]  because it is not that they do not have money, it is that they have terror.
[32:09.000 --> 32:12.000]  How long have you been living in the United States, more or less?
[32:12.000 --> 32:13.000]  33 years.
[32:13.000 --> 32:14.000]  Have you seen anything like this before?
[32:14.000 --> 32:16.000]  Never.
[32:16.000 --> 32:20.000]  And we lived, you and I, the time of California, when California was fighting,
[32:20.000 --> 32:27.000]  and we lived the amnesty of 86, and we lived everything that happened, but never anything like this.
[32:27.000 --> 32:34.000]  Never, Jorge, Alabama is the great lesson of what it means in a state with a deep historical root
[32:34.000 --> 32:37.000]  about the struggle for civil rights, to repeat it again.
[32:37.000 --> 32:40.000]  And besides, if we are not even talking about immigration reform,
[32:40.000 --> 32:42.000]  what surprises me is that we are now talking about this type of law,
[32:42.000 --> 32:45.000]  instead of talking about something positive, for 11 million undocumented people.
[32:45.000 --> 32:49.000]  And as a judge said, who stopped them, has stopped the part of the licenses,
[32:49.000 --> 32:53.000]  the mobile homes and the cars, he said something that caught my attention a lot.
[32:53.000 --> 32:58.000]  It has been discovered that this law was going to be focused on a Hispanic group in general,
[32:58.000 --> 33:00.000]  and immigration mixed it.
[33:00.000 --> 33:03.000]  Alabama, Blanca Rosalchas, what is the most important thing for you from 2011?
[33:03.000 --> 33:06.000]  What do you highlight in New York? What caught your attention?
[33:06.000 --> 33:09.000]  There were several things. To start, in the month of May, as we all remember,
[33:09.000 --> 33:12.000]  the death of Osama Bin Laden, the fact of being in Times Square,
[33:12.000 --> 33:18.000]  seeing the spark that traditionally is only used for very, very important news,
[33:18.000 --> 33:21.000]  the reaction from the people, which was a mixture.
[33:21.000 --> 33:25.000]  On the one hand, you saw this, a person who has caused so much pain dies,
[33:25.000 --> 33:28.000]  not only in New York, but in all of the United States.
[33:28.000 --> 33:32.000]  They kill Osama Bin Laden, they execute Osama Bin Laden, can we use those words?
[33:32.000 --> 33:35.000]  Yes, and on the other hand, the fear it generates in people,
[33:35.000 --> 33:41.000]  because it says, OK, the warrior has died, the person who headed all this movement,
[33:41.000 --> 33:45.000]  Al Qaeda, the most dangerous, the one who has caused so much damage,
[33:45.000 --> 33:47.000]  and on the other hand, what is going to happen now?
[33:47.000 --> 33:51.000]  There is going to be a revenge, and all those feelings concentrated in Times Square.
[33:51.000 --> 33:54.000]  Where they had covered, of course, very close to where the Twin Towers had fallen.
[33:54.000 --> 33:59.000]  Exactly, that is May, a little later, accelerating the video,
[33:59.000 --> 34:04.000]  the 10th anniversary of September 11 comes again, these feelings,
[34:04.000 --> 34:08.000]  these 10 years, these creatures that we have seen almost born,
[34:08.000 --> 34:11.000]  as we know, there are 1,500 children who remained orphans,
[34:11.000 --> 34:17.000]  that you have seen them grow, from 2001 to 2011, and that they are 10-year-old children.
[34:17.000 --> 34:20.000]  And then comes the Occupy Wall Street movement, right?
[34:20.000 --> 34:21.000]  Exactly.
[34:21.000 --> 34:24.000]  Occupy Wall Street, or the outraged, which is the movement that arises from Spain, right?
[34:24.000 --> 34:28.000]  Exactly, that surprises you, a weekend, 2,000 people arrive,
[34:28.000 --> 34:35.000]  they take the park, a park that, even for those of us who live in New York, is relatively unknown.
[34:35.000 --> 34:40.000]  You see it there, because it is next to Zone 0, but it has no greater transcendence.
[34:40.000 --> 34:43.000]  What did they want, or what do they want, Blanca Rosa?
[34:43.000 --> 34:47.000]  Because it is clear what they do not like, but what do they want, right?
[34:47.000 --> 34:53.000]  But I think that in trying to define what, in conventional terms,
[34:53.000 --> 34:55.000]  what this movement is, there is a failure.
[34:55.000 --> 34:59.000]  And the failure is that we cannot use them in a conventional way.
[34:59.000 --> 35:05.000]  They are against many things, especially the fact of politicians,
[35:05.000 --> 35:09.000]  how the United States works, of course, the indignation they feel
[35:09.000 --> 35:14.000]  with respect to what has happened in Wall Street and the entire investment fund,
[35:14.000 --> 35:18.000]  and how the economy has deteriorated due to irresponsibility.
[35:18.000 --> 35:21.000]  And this feeling, I think, must be valued.
[35:21.000 --> 35:25.000]  It is true that they do not have it clear in conventional terms
[35:25.000 --> 35:30.000]  to make a political agenda, I must say, point number 1, 2 and 3.
[35:30.000 --> 35:36.000]  And I would like to take the opportunity to go from these demonstrations to what has happened in Mexico.
[35:36.000 --> 35:41.000]  There were huge protests for peace and against the violence that is taking place in Mexico.
[35:41.000 --> 35:45.000]  You have had to cover, Edgar, I think one of the worst times I remember in Mexico, right?
[35:45.000 --> 35:48.000]  50,000 dead since Calderón came to power.
[35:48.000 --> 35:52.000]  The strategy of the government, what has triggered is a bloodbath.
[35:52.000 --> 35:57.000]  The strategy with 50,000 dead tells you that it is a non-functional strategy,
[35:57.000 --> 36:00.000]  where it has left thousands of people missing.
[36:00.000 --> 36:04.000]  There are still mothers who are looking for their children, their husbands, their daughters,
[36:04.000 --> 36:06.000]  and they do not know where they are.
[36:06.000 --> 36:11.000]  And the argument is that, the battle of the government with organized crime.
[36:11.000 --> 36:19.000]  That has turned a country just wrapped in blood, seeing data that this year ended.
[36:19.000 --> 36:24.000]  In 2008, more than 8,000 deaths were presented with this strategy.
[36:24.000 --> 36:29.000]  And this year that has just ended, exceeds 25,000 dead.
[36:29.000 --> 36:32.000]  The deaths in the last three years tripled.
[36:32.000 --> 36:33.000]  What is the option?
[36:33.000 --> 36:38.000]  I mean, because the debate has been, do you negotiate with the narcos or are you still holding on?
[36:38.000 --> 36:43.000]  Crime must be fought, but with intelligence, as it was done in the ETA in Spain,
[36:43.000 --> 36:46.000]  as it was done in Ireland, it can be a way.
[36:46.000 --> 36:50.000]  But without a doubt, I believe that what the government had to bet on is jobs,
[36:50.000 --> 36:53.000]  to try to reduce inequality.
[36:53.000 --> 36:58.000]  It is not possible that in Mexico, in the last 30 years, the poor are poorer and the rich are richer.
[36:58.000 --> 36:59.000]  26 times, right?
[36:59.000 --> 37:02.000]  The rich are richer than the poor.
[37:02.000 --> 37:05.000]  In other words, the rich earn more and the poor earn less every year.
[37:05.000 --> 37:09.000]  So there are poorer people, 40% of the country exceeds that percentage,
[37:09.000 --> 37:11.000]  are of extreme poverty or poor.
[37:11.000 --> 37:13.000]  You as a Mexican, how do you see it from afar?
[37:13.000 --> 37:16.000]  As I could never have imagined that country,
[37:16.000 --> 37:21.000]  I was covering Edgar on his vacation during the month of July and part of August,
[37:21.000 --> 37:27.000]  and suddenly I thought I had a hope the day the politicians met with Alberto,
[37:27.000 --> 37:30.000]  with Cecilia Falcón, Javier Cecilia and Poeta.
[37:30.000 --> 37:33.000]  By the way, it is considered the character of the year,
[37:33.000 --> 37:36.000]  that tells you about the impact it has.
[37:36.000 --> 37:40.000]  A man who is killed by his son is considered the man of the year in Mexico,
[37:40.000 --> 37:41.000]  because of the violence.
[37:41.000 --> 37:42.000]  He was not a scientist.
[37:42.000 --> 37:44.000]  So what happened at that meeting?
[37:44.000 --> 37:47.000]  For the first time they recognize that things have been done wrong,
[37:47.000 --> 37:49.000]  but it was more than the same.
[37:49.000 --> 37:56.000]  Papers, names, records, while the pain of people who are part of that deadly statistic,
[37:56.000 --> 37:58.000]  who recovers parents from children, siblings?
[37:58.000 --> 38:01.000]  Perhaps hope is in a turn to negotiation.
[38:01.000 --> 38:04.000]  They broke the police, they broke the structures,
[38:04.000 --> 38:08.000]  they sent people who are now with the bad ones, who were with the good ones.
[38:08.000 --> 38:10.000]  That is a disaster.
[38:10.000 --> 38:12.000]  Let's do one thing, let's take a commercial break,
[38:12.000 --> 38:15.000]  and when we return, let's see what is coming for 2012,
[38:15.000 --> 38:19.000]  particularly with the elections in the United States, Mexico, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic,
[38:19.000 --> 38:22.000]  and the visit of Pope Benedict XVI to the region.
[38:22.000 --> 38:32.000]  Let's take a break and come back.
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[41:47.000 --> 41:55.000]  The first anti-Wall Street protest in 2012 left a police officer injured and a protestor arrested in the Zucotti Park in New York.
[41:55.000 --> 41:56.000]  How are you? Miriam Masigi speaking.
[41:56.000 --> 41:58.000]  Let's go to the news point.
[41:58.000 --> 42:06.000]  Employees from the city of New York woke up with everything necessary to clean the area where more than 30,000 people gathered to welcome the new year.
[42:06.000 --> 42:14.000]  For the second consecutive year, the celebration of the end of the year ends with a rain of dead birds in a city of Arkansas.
[42:14.000 --> 42:23.000]  And in Japan, a magnitude 7 earthquake shook part of Tokyo and caused the suspension of the train service for several hours, but no victims were reported.
[42:23.000 --> 42:30.000]  We are now with Jorge Ramos.
[42:30.000 --> 42:38.000]  Very well, we already talked about 2011, let's talk about 2012, but let me start with a conversation that we had here in commercials that was very interesting.
[42:38.000 --> 42:43.000]  You said, Blanca Rosa, there are reasons to be angry, there are reasons to be frustrated and angry.
[42:43.000 --> 42:49.000]  What happens is that we initially talked about Mexico and then we talked about New York, we talked about everyone.
[42:49.000 --> 42:53.000]  Then in the Arab Spring and then in Spain.
[42:53.000 --> 42:59.000]  And there is genuine reason in this generation to be angry, to be angry, to be angry.
[42:59.000 --> 43:05.000]  And really, as a mother of a teenager, I want to see that.
[43:05.000 --> 43:13.000]  I want them to realize that the world that we are leaving them is not a better world and that there are reasons to fight for things.
[43:13.000 --> 43:22.000]  I agree because there have been bad rulers, not only in America, but also in Europe, Greece, Portugal, Spain.
[43:22.000 --> 43:32.000]  There have been bad strategies to direct countries, therefore it is very valid, there is a lot of reason to ensure that you can be indignant at the bad executives of some countries.
[43:32.000 --> 43:35.000]  So these protests are very important.
[43:35.000 --> 43:39.000]  Well, look, I'm going to tell you what we were saying a while ago and we're going to talk very clearly.
[43:39.000 --> 43:43.000]  Blanca Rosa was saying something that I agree with and Edgar was kind of like that.
[43:43.000 --> 43:51.000]  Blanca Rosa said, I prefer those people protesting on Wall Street than on Facebook, which is what you said.
[43:51.000 --> 44:01.000]  I tell Edgar that what happens in Mexico, I prefer to think that that stage has never been lived because I was young in 68, I was a student, I participated in the movements.
[44:01.000 --> 44:07.000]  And those were genuine real protests that people came out to say, here we are.
[44:07.000 --> 44:09.000]  But in Mexico they have complained, right? In Mexico they are complaining.
[44:09.000 --> 44:16.000]  Some are indignant, but what I do not agree with is what you propose, that is, it is good to protest, that is, I do not agree with how you are directing me.
[44:16.000 --> 44:22.000]  It is not good the abuse you have committed, but also what is the way, you cannot stay alone in the protest, in that I am...
[44:22.000 --> 44:31.000]  Okay, but to the indignant we are demanding a very clear agenda with very specific points, why not do the same with the people who govern us?
[44:31.000 --> 44:39.000]  And how about if we talk about the people who govern us and who are going to govern us? There are elections in the United States, Mexico, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic.
[44:39.000 --> 44:41.000]  In the United States, how do you see it, Blanca Rosa?
[44:41.000 --> 44:44.000]  I'm just traveling in very few days to New Hampshire.
[44:44.000 --> 44:54.000]  It is very difficult, if a year ago you had told me that we were going to be in the situation we are in now, I would have doubted it.
[44:54.000 --> 45:01.000]  And particularly there are several things that disturb me and I use the word because that is the adjective that must be given.
[45:01.000 --> 45:11.000]  It disturbs me the fact that there is no clear agenda, that people cannot differentiate between what is one party and what the other party offers them.
[45:11.000 --> 45:13.000]  That they are just fighting and that everything is blocked.
[45:13.000 --> 45:17.000]  And that they are fighting and that the level of discussion is so poor.
[45:17.000 --> 45:24.000]  The level of discussion is poor, now it turns out that they are leaving because one put the horn on the woman and then four more came out.
[45:24.000 --> 45:28.000]  And then it was not only the horned wife, there were four more lovers.
[45:28.000 --> 45:32.000]  That is, gentlemen, whoever believes that this country is a liberal country is wrong.
[45:32.000 --> 45:35.000]  It is a conservative country that is taking things in all directions.
[45:35.000 --> 45:41.000]  And I believe that the favored one is still President Obama because he has to fulfill the promise.
[45:41.000 --> 45:42.000]  I agree with the polls.
[45:42.000 --> 45:53.000]  The problem in this matter is that he did not fulfill, and that is what many Hispanic voters tell me, he did not fulfill his promise of a migratory reform.
[45:53.000 --> 45:55.000]  So everything complicates that.
[45:55.000 --> 45:56.000]  This is the United States in Mexico.
[45:56.000 --> 45:57.000]  How do you see it?
[45:57.000 --> 45:58.000]  What is the panorama?
[45:58.000 --> 46:06.000]  Today, as never before, the institutional revolutionary party that ruled for more than 70 years in Mexico has the possibility of returning to power after 12 years of absence.
[46:06.000 --> 46:16.000]  With Enrique Peña Nieto, who has had many dislikes in recent days because he does not know how to pronounce English well, he does not know what the price of the tortilla is, he does not know the titles of the books.
[46:16.000 --> 46:20.000]  Which marks a very weak man of little knowledge.
[46:20.000 --> 46:31.000]  And with the question of whether this man knows how to govern above Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who is the left candidate, who would seek for the presidency for the second time.
[46:31.000 --> 46:35.000]  And there are the three candidates on the right, which is the party in the government.
[46:35.000 --> 46:38.000]  There what happens is that they have not been able to motivate people.
[46:38.000 --> 46:45.000]  And in the end, we know it both in Mexico and in the United States, an election is moved by emotion rather than by reason.
[46:45.000 --> 46:46.000]  How do you see it in Mexico?
[46:46.000 --> 46:54.000]  Well, I think that in Mexico, the PRI has the great possibility, I think it should have been Manlio Fabio Beltrones, and I will explain why.
[46:54.000 --> 47:02.000]  Because those clashes of Peña Nieto speaking English, the daughters on Twitter, so many things are more than the same.
[47:02.000 --> 47:03.000]  The forgets.
[47:03.000 --> 47:04.000]  The forgets, those are unforgivable.
[47:04.000 --> 47:05.000]  Forgets that are not forgotten.
[47:05.000 --> 47:11.000]  Forgets that you started, you opened the door to the forgets of Mr. Peña Nieto, whom I do not know, he says nothing.
[47:11.000 --> 47:13.000]  But then what are we going to do?
[47:13.000 --> 47:23.000]  Live with the Peña Nieto of television or guide the politician to a politician who needs concertation, capacity for political dialogue as a born political animal.
[47:23.000 --> 47:25.000]  Or what does Mexico have?
[47:25.000 --> 47:27.000]  What is the other option?
[47:27.000 --> 47:29.000]  López Obrador, well, López Obrador.
[47:29.000 --> 47:34.000]  Now the bread, if the bread had a head, it would have chosen a woman at least to give it political play.
[47:34.000 --> 47:35.000]  But there are still options.
[47:35.000 --> 47:37.000]  And that could be Josefina Vázquez Mota without a doubt.
[47:37.000 --> 47:39.000]  Santiago Crip on the other hand.
[47:39.000 --> 47:48.000]  The curious thing is that despite those mistakes that Peña Nieto has made, currently he is still 20 points above López Obrador, who is the second.
[47:48.000 --> 47:52.000]  And then it is still missing to define the right, but Josefina Vázquez Mota would go.
[47:52.000 --> 48:01.000]  I want to mention, of course, that there will also be elections in Venezuela, where six candidates of the opposition in February will face President Hugo Chávez in the month of October.
[48:01.000 --> 48:07.000]  And of course in the Dominican Republic, where there is a debate between the continuation that Danilo Medina could do.
[48:07.000 --> 48:16.000]  By the way, the current First Lady, Margarita Cereño, is launching together with Medina in front of Hipólito Mejía, who according to some polls is ahead.
[48:16.000 --> 48:18.000]  So Venezuela and the Dominican Republic are also there.
[48:18.000 --> 48:22.000]  And then the Pope, Benedict XVI, goes to Cuba and Mexico, Margarita.
[48:22.000 --> 48:26.000]  Well, you know me, I know how you think here and I know how you think.
[48:26.000 --> 48:27.000]  I think...
[48:27.000 --> 48:28.000]  How do you think, Margarita?
[48:28.000 --> 48:31.000]  I know that right now they are going to throw me the rustic cavalry, but it does not matter.
[48:31.000 --> 48:33.000]  Does it matter that the Pope goes to Cuba?
[48:33.000 --> 48:35.000]  It does matter, it does matter, why?
[48:35.000 --> 48:41.000]  Because if they tell me that nothing was achieved with Juan Pablo II, I can tell you who knows.
[48:41.000 --> 48:49.000]  Why? Because if we remember that at this moment the relations of the communist state, of the Cuban state, with the Vatican are the best,
[48:49.000 --> 48:56.000]  because last year or the year before last, in 2010, political prisoners were released thanks to the mediation of the Church.
[48:56.000 --> 49:00.000]  We are seeing that there is a more open path and that could be changed.
[49:00.000 --> 49:01.000]  How do you see it, Blanca Rosa?
[49:01.000 --> 49:06.000]  I think it is a fascinating time, the one that is happening, and I think it can be...
[49:06.000 --> 49:16.000]  It can give you several alternatives, the only fact that a Pope comes to a country, obviously, puts the eyes of everyone in that country.
[49:16.000 --> 49:17.000]  This is not Juan Pablo II either.
[49:17.000 --> 49:18.000]  It is not.
[49:18.000 --> 49:24.000]  And it will not be a visit, sorry, political, that people are confusing, it is an apostolic visit.
[49:24.000 --> 49:30.000]  The visit of the Pope, at least in Mexico, has always presented or unleashed changes.
[49:30.000 --> 49:37.000]  The visit of the Pope, I agree with Blanca, changes. Despite the fact that the Vatican does not have a political agenda, it does have a political impact.
[49:37.000 --> 49:39.000]  We cannot disassociate that.
[49:39.000 --> 49:41.000]  Now, I do not know if it is an electoral issue.
[49:41.000 --> 49:44.000]  In the case of Mexico, it goes from March 23 to March 26.
[49:44.000 --> 49:47.000]  It is when the political campaigns in Mexico begin.
[49:47.000 --> 49:56.000]  But despite that, I do believe, and I agree with my friend, María Antonieta, is that the Pope brings hope, brings a good atmosphere, brings a new spirit.
[49:56.000 --> 49:57.000]  That is what the country needs.
[49:57.000 --> 49:58.000]  The Pope needs to go.
[49:58.000 --> 50:11.000]  The fact that a Pope arrives and that he comes with the army of us, who are the journalists, gives notes, gives stories, gives, above all, a search of the journalists.
[50:11.000 --> 50:12.000]  It changes your face.
[50:12.000 --> 50:15.000]  To try to understand what is happening in that country.
[50:15.000 --> 50:18.000]  Because you cannot just be talking and the Pope arrives.
[50:18.000 --> 50:20.000]  Ok, the Pope arrives, where is he coming from?
[50:20.000 --> 50:21.000]  And nobody knows.
[50:21.000 --> 50:23.000]  What is this country like?
[50:23.000 --> 50:28.000]  And just by asking those questions, I think it is important for the country. What is the Pope visiting?
[50:28.000 --> 50:31.000]  And here I am going to tell you what I have already prepared for the rest of the visit.
[50:31.000 --> 50:33.000]  And you will probably agree with me.
[50:33.000 --> 50:35.000]  It comes to a point where Juan Pablo II did not arrive.
[50:35.000 --> 50:37.000]  What is the heart of Mexico?
[50:37.000 --> 50:38.000]  What is Guanajuato?
[50:38.000 --> 50:41.000]  What is the cradle of the Christian war in 1933?
[50:41.000 --> 50:44.000]  What is the sector of the most beaten Catholics?
[50:44.000 --> 50:45.000]  And more, more closed?
[50:45.000 --> 50:46.000]  Do they exist?
[50:46.000 --> 50:47.000]  Do the Christians follow?
[50:47.000 --> 50:49.000]  But it is a very difficult time for the Catholic Church.
[50:49.000 --> 50:53.000]  Based on all the accusations of sexual abuse.
[50:53.000 --> 50:54.000]  Totally agree.
[50:54.000 --> 50:55.000]  I knew you were going to go out there.
[50:55.000 --> 50:56.000]  If it is true.
[50:56.000 --> 50:58.000]  Because you have to say it, you do not have to report it.
[50:58.000 --> 51:05.000]  For example, in the case of Mexico, 20 years ago, 95% of official data was Catholic.
[51:05.000 --> 51:07.000]  Today it is 83%.
[51:07.000 --> 51:11.000]  The Catholic Church has lost faithful for different reasons.
[51:11.000 --> 51:13.000]  So it is also a complicated year.
[51:13.000 --> 51:20.000]  That is why Benedict XVI goes to the heart, to the most conservative place in the country.
[51:20.000 --> 51:21.000]  What is Guanajuato?
[51:21.000 --> 51:22.000]  What is Silao?
[51:22.000 --> 51:23.000]  Where is Christ the King?
[51:23.000 --> 51:27.000]  But it is also the fact that it arrives exactly in those circumstances.
[51:27.000 --> 51:32.000]  But not only that there are fewer Catholics in Latin America.
[51:32.000 --> 51:38.000]  But there are other religions that have advanced to very, very accelerated steps.
[51:38.000 --> 51:39.000]  Thank you.
[51:39.000 --> 51:40.000]  We are running out of time.
[51:40.000 --> 51:41.000]  We will see.
[51:41.000 --> 51:42.000]  But we continue in commercials.
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[51:48.000 --> 51:49.000]  Happy New Year to everyone.
[51:49.000 --> 51:52.000]  We are going to take a break and return after commercials.
[51:52.000 --> 51:58.000]  When you return, if you only had three words to explain how the year 2012 comes, what would you say?
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[56:53.000 --> 57:04.000]  We have a giant country that always looks forward with the same desire to start.
[57:04.000 --> 57:10.000]  In our hands there is a future that unites us.
[57:10.000 --> 57:16.000]  And with the heart discovers that everything bad can be changed.
[57:16.000 --> 57:23.000]  In your consciousness a child plays with the wind.
[57:23.000 --> 57:29.000]  The loneliness of the firmament paints a hope to improve.
[57:29.000 --> 57:35.000]  It is not impossible to make the world your reflection.
[57:35.000 --> 57:42.000]  Little by little relieve the pain so that other eyes can wake up.
[57:42.000 --> 57:55.000]  In our hands we have a giant country that always looks forward with the same desire to start.
[57:55.000 --> 58:01.000]  In our hands there is a future that unites us.
[58:01.000 --> 58:07.000]  And with the heart discovers that everything bad can be changed.
[58:07.000 --> 58:13.000]  Everything can be done if you want it.
[58:13.000 --> 58:23.000]  There are a thousand ways to embrace the freedom of the heart.
[58:23.000 --> 58:36.000]  In our hands we have a giant country that always looks forward with the same desire to start.
[58:36.000 --> 58:42.000]  In our hands there is a future that unites us.
[58:42.000 --> 58:49.000]  And with the heart discovers that everything bad can be changed.
[58:49.000 --> 59:07.000]  In our hands we have a giant country that always looks forward with the same desire to start.
[59:19.000 --> 59:23.000]  The truth is that nothing happens.
[59:23.000 --> 59:29.000]  With this we go, thanks for being with us and until next week when together we go to the point.
[59:29.000 --> 59:53.000]  Thank you.
[59:59.000 --> 01:00:02.000]  Translated by Elham Arabi