1 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,000 AMNA: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 I'M AMNA NAWAZ. 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 JUDY WOODRUFF IS AWAY. 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,000 ON THE "NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT, A 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 VERDICT, A JURY ORDERS 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,000 CONSPIRACY THEORIST ALEX JONES 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,000 TO PAY THE FAMILIES OF THE SANDY 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000 HOOK MASSACRE NEARLY $1 BILLION 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,000 IN DAMAGES. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 THEN, THE SAUDI CONNECTION, THE 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,000 UNITED STATES RE-EVALUATES ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE KINGDOM 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,000 OVER A CUT IN OIL PRODUCTION 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,000 THAT'S PUSHING UP GAS PRICES. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 AND, FIRST TIME VOTERS, YOUNG ADULTS IN WISCONSIN DISCUSS 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 THEIR HOPES FOR THE COUNTRY'S 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000 FUTURE AND WHETHER POLITICIANS 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,000 ARE LISTENING TO THEIR CONCERNS. 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 >> I'VE BEEN VERY POLITICALLY 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,000 ENGAGED THROUGHOUT HIGH SCHOOL 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 AND I'M EXCITED TO GET MY FOOT 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 IN THE DOOR AND ACTUALLY HAVE A 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,000 VOICE IN MY GOVERNMENT. 23 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,000 AMNA: ALL THAT AND MORE ON 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,000 TONIGHT'S "PBS NEWSHOUR." 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,000 ♪ 26 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,000 >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY -- 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,000 ♪ 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,000 ♪ 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,000 ♪ 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,000 >> MOVING OUR ECONOMY FOR 160 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 YEARS. 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,000 BNSF THE ENGINE THAT CONNECTS 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,000 US. >> PEDIATRIC SURGEON, VOLUNTEER, 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 TOPIARY ARTIST A FINANCIAL 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 ADVISOR. 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 TAYLOR'S ADVICE TO HELP YOU LIVE 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 YOUR LIFE. 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 LIFE WELL PLANNED. 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 ♪ 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000 >> THE WALTON FAMILY FOUNDATION, 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 WORKING FOR SOLUTIONS TO PROTECT 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 WATER DURING CLIMATE CHANGE SO 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,000 PEOPLE AND NATURE CAN THRIVE 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 TOGETHER. ♪ 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 >> SUPPORTED BY THE JOHN D. AND 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 CATHERINE T. MACARTHUR 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 FOUNDATION, COMMITTED TO 49 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 BUILDING A MORE JUST, VERDANT 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 AND PEACEFUL WORLD. 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,000 MORE INFMATION AT MACFOUND.ORG 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 . AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT OF 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,000 THESE INSTITUTIONS. 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE 55 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,000 BY THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,000 BROADCASTING AND BY 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS 58 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,000 STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 59 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,000 THANK YO 60 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 ♪ 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 AMNA: A JURY IN CONNECTICUT HAS 62 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 ORDERED CONSPIRACY THEORIST ALEX 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 JONES TO PAY NEARLY $1 BILLION 64 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 DOLLARS IN DAMAGES FOR 65 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 DEFAMATION. 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 THE HOST OF THE INFOWARS SHOW 67 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,000 HAD CLAIMED THE 2012 SANDY HOOK 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 SCHOOL MASSACRE WAS A HOAX. 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 RELATIVES OF EIGHT OF THE 26 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,000 VICTIMS AND AN FBI AGENT BROUGHT 71 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 THE SUIT. 72 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,000 THEY SAID TODAY'S VERDICT IS A 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 HARD-FOUGHT VICTORY. 74 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,000 >> ALL I CAN REALLY SAY IS THAT 75 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 I'M JUST PROUD THAT WHAT WE WERE 76 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WAS JUST TO 77 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 SIMPLY TELL THE TRUTH. 78 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS HARD 79 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THE SCARY. 80 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 81 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 WHAT MY DAUGHTER IS GOING TO GO 82 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,000 THROUGH WHEN I TELL THEM THAT 83 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 IT'S BEST THAT THEY JUST TELL 84 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 THE TRUTH. 85 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 AMNA: JONES ALREADY FACED A $50 86 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 MILLION PENALTY THAT A TEXAS 87 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 JURY IMPOSED IN AUGUST. 88 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 WE WILL RETURN TO THIS STORY 89 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 LATER IN THE PROGRAM. A JURY IN SOUTH FLORIDA HAS 90 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,000 BEGUN DELIBERATING ON WHETHER 91 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 PARKLAND SCHOOL SHOOTER NIKOLAS CRUZ WILL BE SENTENCED TO DEATH. 92 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 CRUZ ALREADY PLEADED GUILTY TO 93 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,000 KILLING 17 PEOPLE AT MARJORY 94 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 STONEMAN DOUGLAS HIGH SCHOOL IN 95 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 2018. HE IS NOW 24 YEARS OLD. 96 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 THE DEFENSE IS ASKING FOR LIFE 97 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 IN PRISON WITHOUT PAROLE. 98 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 IN UKRAINE, SEVEN MORE PEOPLE 99 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 WERE KILLED TODAY AS RUSSIA 100 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 FIRED MORE MISSILES, DRONES, AND 101 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 ARTILLERY ROUNDS INTO MAJOR 102 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000 CITIES. 103 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 IN ALL, THE NEW RUSSIAN 104 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 OFFENSIVE HAS KILLED AT LEAST 26 105 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 PEOPLE SINCE MONDAY. 106 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 THE LATEST ATTACKS CAME AS U.S. 107 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 DEFENSE SECRETARY LLOYD AUSTIN 108 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,000 AND OTHER NATO DEFENSE MINISTERS 109 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 MET IN BRUSSELS ON BOLSTERING 110 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,000 UKRAINE'S WEAPON SUPPLY. 111 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,000 >> THAT RESOLVE HAS ONLY BEEN 112 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,000 HEIGHTENED BY THE DELIBERATE 113 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,000 CRUELTY OF RUSSIA'S NEW BARRAGE 114 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,000 AGAINST UKRAINIAN CITIES. 115 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 THOSASSAULTS ON TARGETS WITH 116 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000 NO MILITARY PURPOSE AGAIN REVEAL 117 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,000 THE MALICE OF PUTIN'S WAR OF CHOICE. 118 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 LAURA: RUSSIAN FIRE ALSO KNOCKED 119 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 -- AMNA: RUSSIAN FIRE ALSO 120 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,000 KNOCKED OUT POR TO THE 121 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 ZAPORIZHZHIA NUCLEAR PLANT FOR 122 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 THE SECOND TIME IN FIVE DAYS. 123 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 AND AT THE UNITED NATIONS, THE 124 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 GENERAL ASSEMBLY VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO CONDEMN 125 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 RUSSIA'S ATTEMPT TO ANNEX MORE 126 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 OF UKRAINE. RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN 127 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,000 SAYS MOSCOW IS SET TO RESUME 128 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,000 NATURAL GAS DELIVERIES TO 129 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,000 EUROPE. 130 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 HE SAID TODAY THAT THE NORD 131 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 STREAM 2 PIPELINE TO GERMANY 132 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,000 COULD STILL BE USED DESPITE 133 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 BEING DAMAGED BY EXPLOSIONS LAST 134 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 MONTH. 135 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 GERMANY QUICKLY REJECTED THE 136 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 OFFER AS ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO RENEW EUROPE'S DEPENDENCE ON 137 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,000 RUSSIAN ENERGY. 138 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,000 NEW PROTESTS SWEPT IRAN TODAY, 139 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,000 DESPITE HEAVY POLICE PRESENCE 140 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 AND AN INTERNET OUTAGE THAT 141 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,000 HINDERED COMMUNICATIONS. 142 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 DEMONSTRATORS RALLIED IN AT 143 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 LEAST 19 CITIES OVER THE DEATH 144 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 OF MAHSA AMINI IN POLICE 145 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 CUSTODY. 146 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 WOMEN MARCHED IN THE STREETS 147 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,000 DEFIANTLY REMOVING THEIR 148 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,000 MANDATORY HIJABS. 149 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,000 IN TEHRAN, SUPREME LEADER 150 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 AYATOLLAH KHAMENEI BLAMED 151 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 FOREIGN ELEMENTS FOR THE UNREST. 152 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,000 >> SOME ARE EITHER AGENTS OF THE 153 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 ENEMY, OR THEY ARE ALIGNED WITH 154 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 THE ENEMY. OTHERS ARE JUST EXCITED. 155 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,000 THE FIRST GROUP MUST BE DEALT 156 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 WITH BY JUDICIAL AND NATIONAL 157 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:53,000 SECURITY OFFICIALS. 158 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 AMNA: THE REGIME HAS CARRIED OUT 159 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 A VIOLENT CRACKDOWN ON THE PROTESTS. 160 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 AT LEAST -- ONE HUMAN RIGHTS 161 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 GROUP ESTIMATED TODAY THAT AT LEAST 200 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 162 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 KILLED. 163 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,000 THE FORMER HEAD OF THE LOS 164 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 ANGELES CITY COUNCIL HAS 165 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 RESIGNED HER SEAT OVER RACIST 166 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 REMARKS THAT WERE LEAKED. 167 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 MARTINEZ HAD STEPPED DOWN FROM 168 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 HER POST AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT. 169 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 MARTINEZ AND TWO OTHER 170 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 COUNCILMEMBERS TALKED ABOUT ATTRACTING LATINO VOTING POWER 171 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 D MADE ABUSIVE OR MARKS ABOUT 172 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 OTHER GROUPS. 173 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ANNOUNCED 174 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 HE WILL LOOK INTO THE PROCESS 175 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 FOR DRAWING NEW COUNSEL 176 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 DISTRICTS. 177 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS 178 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 ORDERED TODAY TO GIVE A DEPOSITION IN A DEFAMATION 179 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 LAWSUIT. 180 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 A FEDERAL JUDGE SUED THE ORDER 181 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 IN NEW YORK. 182 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 ADVICE COLUMNIST E. JEAN CARROLL SAYS MR. TRUMP DEFAMED HER WHEN 183 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 HE DENIED RAPING HER IN A 184 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,000 DEPARTMENT STORE DRESSING ROOM 185 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 IN THE MID-1990'S. 186 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S LEGAL 187 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,000 TEAM HAS REPEATEDLY TRIED TO QUASH THE LAWSUIT. 188 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 THE CDC TODAY APPROVED UATED 189 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,000 COVID-19 BOOSTER SHOTS FOR CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS FIVE YEARS 190 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 OLD. 191 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 THE LATEST PFIZER AND MODERNA VACCINES ARE TAILORED TO PROVIDE 192 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 BETTER PROTECTION AGAINST THE 193 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS OMICRON 194 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,000 VARIANT. 195 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,000 CDC APPROVAL CAME HOURS AFTER THE FDA AUTHORIZED THE BOOSTERS 196 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 FOR THE YOUNGER AGE GROUP. ON WALL STREET TODAY, STOCKS 197 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,000 ENDED SLIGHTLY LOWER AFTER NEWS 198 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,000 THAT WHOLESALE INFLATION ROSE 199 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,000 8.5% IN SEPTEMBER, FROM A YEAR EARLIER. 200 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE 201 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000 LOST 28 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 202 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 29,210. 203 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 THE NASDAQ FELL 9 POINTS. 204 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 THE S&P 500 SLIPPED 11. 205 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWSHOUR," 206 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN'S STUDENT LOAN 207 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 FORGIVENESS PLAN FACES LEGAL 208 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,000 CHALLENGES. REPORTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY 209 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 SHARE THE LATEST ON THE RACES THAT COULD DECIDE CONTROL OF 210 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 CONGRESS PLUS MUCH MORE. 211 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,000 >> THIS IS PBS NEWSHOUR FROM 212 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND 213 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 FROM THE WEST FROM THE WALTER 214 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:56,000 CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM . 215 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 AMNA: ALEX JONES HAS BEEN 216 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 ORDERED TO PAY MONEY FOR THE 217 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 LIES HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THE SANDY 218 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 HOOK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MASSACRE IN 2012. 219 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,000 HE HAD FALSELY CLAIMED THE 220 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 ATTACK THAT LEFT MORE THAN 2000 221 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 PEOPLE DEAD INCLUDING 20 222 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 CHILDREN WAS A HOAX, AND 223 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 ACCUSED A GRIEVING PARENT OF 224 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 BEING AN ACTOR IN THE DAYS AFTER 225 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 THE MURDERS. 226 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 TEXAS JURY AWARDED NEARLY $50 227 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 MILLION IN A SEPARATE DAMAGES 228 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 TRIAL THIS SUMMER. 229 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 JONES LIKELY FACES ANOTHER TRIAL 230 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 BEFORE THE YEAR IS UP. 231 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 FOR SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THE 232 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,000 SCOPE OF THIS AWARD AND WHAT HAPPENS NOW, WE TURN TO JESSE, A 233 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 LAWYER IN CALIFORNIA WHO WORKS 234 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 ON CIVIL AND CRIMINAL CASES. 235 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 WELCOME TO THE NEWSHOUR. 236 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 237 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,000 LET'S START WITH SOME CONTEXT ON 238 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 THIS VERDICT. 239 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 IT IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF 240 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 MONEY. 241 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU 242 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 HEARD THE DAMAGES BEING AWARDED? 243 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,000 JESSE: WOW, QUITE FRANKLY. 244 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE 245 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 LARGEST DEFAMATION VERDICTS IN 246 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 U.S. HISTORY AND IT IS 247 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 COMPENSATORY MEANING THERE IS 248 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,000 STILL GOING TO BE UP TO 10 TIMES 249 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 AS MUCH UNDER THE UNITED STATES 250 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 CONSTITUTION. 251 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 SO WE ARE GOING TO SEE PROBABLY 252 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,000 THIS VERDICT AT LEAST DOUBLE OR 253 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 TRIPLE OR MAYBE EVEN UP TO 10 254 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 TIMES MORE. 255 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,000 AMNA: IT WAS AN INCREDIBLY 256 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,000 EMOTIONAL TRIAL WITH EMOTIONAL TESTIMONY. 257 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 DID THAT PLAY A ROLE IN THE SIZE 258 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 OF THE VERDICT THAT WAS 259 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,000 EVENTUALLY AWARDED? JESSE: ASSUREDLY. 260 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,000 THIS VERDICT SAYS TWO THINGS. 261 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 NUMBER ONE IT SAYS WE HATE ALEX 262 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 JONES, NUMBER TWO THAT WE ARE 263 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 INFLAMED AND WE FEEL THAT THESE 264 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 PARENTS HAVE LOST SOMETHING VERY 265 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 SPECIAL TO THEM AND WE ARE GOING 266 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 TO DO OUR BEST TO GIVE IT BACK 267 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,000 TO THEM WITH OUR VERDICT. AMNA: WE SHOULD POINT OUT, 268 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 EARLIER THIS YEAR, INFO WARS AND 269 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 ITS PARENT COMPANY DID FILE FOR 270 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 BANKRUPTCY PROTECTIONS. 271 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 WHAT KIND OF IMPACT COULD NOT 272 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,000 HAVE ON THE AMOUNT THAT IS 273 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 ACTUALLY PAID OUT? 274 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,000 JESSE: WELL, THE VERDICT IS 275 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 AGAINST ALEX JONES AND THE 276 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 COMPANY. 277 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 ALEX JONES MAY END UP FILING FOR 278 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 BANKRUPTCY PROTECTION AS WELL. 279 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 HIS ESTIMATED NET WORTH IS 280 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,000 ANYWHERE BETWEEN 170 TO 135 TO 281 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 270 MILLION SO HE MAY DECLARE 282 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 BANKRUPTCY AS WELL. 283 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 IT IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT 284 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 THIS VERDICT AND THE TEXAS 285 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,000 VERDICT COULD BE SWEPT UP IN 286 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,000 BANKRUPTCY AND SIGNIFICANTLY 287 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 DECREASED UNDER U.S. BANKRUPTCY 288 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 LAW. AMNA: YOU MENTIONED THAT TEXAS 289 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 VERDICT AND I WANT TO GET YOUR 290 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 ANALYSIS ON THE DIFFERENCE IN YOU SEE BETWEEN THE TEXAS 291 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 VERDICT THAT'S AROUND 50 MILLION 292 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 DOLLARS AND WAS EVENTUALLY KNOCKED DOWN BECAUSE OF STATE 293 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 LIMITS BECAUSE OF THOSE KIND OF 294 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,000 AWARDS AND THE DAMAGES WE SAW 295 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 AWARDED TODAY. HOW DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE 296 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 BETWEEN WHAT UNFOLDED IN TEXAS 297 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,000 AND WHAT HAPPENED IN CONNECTICUT? JESSE: IT IS HARD NOT TO DRAW 298 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 THE INFERENCE THAT THE TWO 299 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,000 DIFFERENT JURY POOLS ARE 300 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 SOMEWHAT POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. 301 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 THE COMPENSATORY DAMAGES IN THE 302 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,000 TEXAS VERDICT WAS $4 MILLION. 303 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 THE COMPENSATORY DAMAGES IN THE 304 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,000 CONNECTICUT VERDICT IS $965 305 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 MILLION. 306 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,000 THAT IS A 960 $1 MILLION 307 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 DIFFERENCE IN COMPENSATORY 308 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 DAMAGES. 309 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 WE STILL HAVE TO SEE PUNITIVE 310 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,000 DAMAGES IN CONNECTICUT SO THE 311 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 DIFFERENCE COULD BE FAR MORE 312 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 STRIKING. 313 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,000 I THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT 314 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 THE CONNECTICUT VERDICT IS A FAR 315 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,000 MORE LIBERAL JURY POOL THAT HAD 316 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 TO HAVE FACTORED INTO THEIR 317 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 VERDICT. 318 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 AMNA: WE LEARNED LATER TODAY 319 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,000 THAT JONES'S LAWYER SAYS THEY 320 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,000 PLAN TO APPEAL. 321 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 WE SHOULD REMIND FOLKS THAT MR. 322 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 JONES WAS SPREADING THESE LIES 323 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 FOR YEARS SAYING THAT THE WHOLE 324 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 ATTACK WAS A HOAX. 325 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 IN SOME CASES PARENTS WERE 326 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 RESPONBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF 327 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 THEIR OWN CHILDREN. 328 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 HE IS NOT ALONE IN SPREADING 329 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 SOME OF THESE LIES AND I WONDER 330 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 AS YOU LOOK AT THIS MOMENT WHAT 331 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 YOU TNK THIS VERDICT SAYS IN 332 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 THE WAY OF A MESSAGE IT SENDS 333 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,000 ABOUT THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE 334 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 SURROUNDING HOLDING THOSE WHO 335 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 SPREAD MISINFORMATION 336 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 ACCOUNTABLE IN SOME WAY. 337 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,000 JESSE: WELL, IF YOU ARE 338 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 PROFITING OFF OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT ARE DEFAMATORY, 339 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,000 THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY FALSE YOU 340 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 NEED TO WATCH YOURSELF. 341 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,000 AND A LITIGANT CAN CLEARLY 342 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 PROSPER IN TWO VERY SEPARATE 343 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 FORMS. 344 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,000 AND I THINK THAT IT SENDS A 345 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,000 STRONG MESSAGE TO PEOPLE THAT 346 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,000 ARE MAKING MONEY ON LIES. 347 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THIS 348 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,000 IS NOT THE END. 349 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 WE HAVE THE PUNITIVE DAMAGES 350 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 VERDICT AND WE ALSO HAVE A THIRD 351 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 SANDY HOOK LAWSUIT SO I THINK 352 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 THAT IT SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE 353 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE 354 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,000 BUSINESS OF PEDDLING 355 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000 CONSPIRACIES. 356 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,000 AMNA: THAT IS A TRIAL ATTORNEY 357 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,000 IN CALIFORNIA JOINING US 358 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000 TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 359 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 360 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,000 AMNA: RELATIO BETWEEN THE 361 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 WHITE HOUSE AND SAUDI ARABIA'S 362 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,000 RULING ROYAL FAMILY ARE AT A LOW 363 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,000 POINT, AND MAY BE SET TO DIVE 364 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 EVEN LOWER. 365 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN'S FIGHTING 366 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 WORDS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL TO 367 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 RECENT SAUDI-LED CUTS IN GLOBAL 368 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,000 OIL SUPPLIES, THE STATUS OF THE 369 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,000 MORE THAN 75-YEAR-OLD ALLIANCE 370 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,000 IS TROUBLED, AND MANY IN THE 371 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 ADMINISTRATION AND ON CAPITOL 372 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,000 HILL WANT A RESET. 373 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000 NICK SCHIFRIN BEGINS OUR 374 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,000 COVERAGE. 375 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 >> ONE OF THE MOST COLORFUL 376 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,000 VISITS TO THE PRESIDENTIAL 377 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 CRUISER WAS THAT OF THE RULER OF 378 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 SAUDI ARABIA. 379 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 NICK: AMERICA'S LONGEST 380 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 RELATIONSHIP WITH AN ARAB STATE 381 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 BEGAN 77 YEARS AGO. 382 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,000 FOUR-TIME ELECTED U.S. PRESIDENT 383 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,000 FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT, AND IBN SAUD, THE WARRIOR MONARCH BACKED 384 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 BY A FANATICAL CLERGY, CREATED A 385 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,000 FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT, AMERICAN 386 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,000 SECURITY IN EXCHANGE FOR SAUDI 387 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 ENERGY. 388 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 BUT TODAY, THAT AGREEMENT MUST 389 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,000 BE RE-EXAMINED, PRESIDENT BIDEN 390 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 TOLD CNN'S JAKE TAPPER LAST 391 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 NIGHT. PRES. BIDEN: THERE'S GOING TO BE 392 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 SOME CONSEQUENCES, FOR WHAT 393 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 THEY'VE DONE, WITH RUSSIA. 394 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 NICK: WHAT THE SAUDIS DID WITH 395 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 FELLOW OPEC LEADER RUSSIA, THE 396 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 LARGEST OIL PRODUCTION CUT IN 397 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 MORE THAN TWO YEARS OVER U.S. 398 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 WARNINGS. IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY OPEC 399 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 SECRETARY GENERAL HAITHAM AL 400 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 GHAIS. 401 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 >> WE ARE NOT ENDANGERING THE ENERGY MARKETS. 402 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,000 WE ARE PROVIDING SECURITY 403 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,000 STABILITY TO THE ENERGY MARKETS. 404 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,000 ,>> AT A PRICE. 405 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,000 >> EVERYTHING HAS A PRICE. 406 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000 NICK: INCLUDING THE U.S.-SAUDI 407 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 RELATIONSHIP. 408 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 IN THE 1970'S, SAUDI ARABIA 409 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 HELPED LEAD AN OIL EMBARGO OVER 410 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 US SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL. >> YOU HAVE DECLARED A JIHAD 411 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 AGAINST THE UNITED STATES. 412 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,000 CAN YOU TELL US WHY THE KINGDOM 413 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 -- TELL US WHY? 414 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,000 NICK: THE KINGDOM CLAIMS IT 415 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,000 FIGHTS THE FIRES OF RADICALISM 416 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,000 BUT CRITICS CALL IT THE 417 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 ARSONIST. THE SAUDI OSAMA BIN LADEN 418 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 SPARKED GLOBAL ATTACKS AGAINST 419 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 THE WEST AND THEIR ARAB ALLIES. 15 OF THE 9/11 HIJACKERS WERE 420 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 SAUDI. 421 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 AND DECADES OF CRITICISM OF 422 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,000 SAUDI ARABIA'S POOR HUMAN RIGHTS 423 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 RECORD CRESCENDOED IN 18 AFTER 424 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,000 JOURNALIST JAMAL KHASHOGGI 425 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 WALKED INTO THE SAUDI ISTANBUL'S 426 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 CONSULATE, WAS MURDERED, AND CUT INTO PIECES. 427 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY 428 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 ASSESSED THE OPERATION WAS 429 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000 APPROVED BY THE KINGDOM'S 430 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,000 POWERFUL CROWN PRINCE, AND 431 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,000 FUTURE KING, MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN. 432 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 THE FOLLOWING YEAR, CANDIDATE 433 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 JOE BIDEN PROMISED PUNISHMENT. 434 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 PRES. BIDEN: WE WERE GOING TO IN 435 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000 FACT MAKE THEM PAY THE PRICE 436 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 AND MAKE THEM IN FACT THE PARIAH 437 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,000 THAT THEY ARE. 438 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 NICK: BUT THAT PROVED TO BE A 439 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,000 SPEED BUMP THAT PRECEDED THIS 440 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 YEAR'S FIST BUMP. 441 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HIS TEAM 442 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,000 WORKED WITH MBS, AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THE KINGDOM HAS 443 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,000 HELPED THE U.S. FOR DECADES, ACROSS CONTINENTS. 444 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000 IN THE LATE 1970'S, SAUDI ARABIA 445 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,000 PROVIDED CRUCIAL SUPPORT FOR THE AFGHAN MUJAHIDEEN TO DEFEAT THE 446 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 SOVIET MILITARY AND HELP 447 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:18,000 COLLAPSE THE SOVIET UNION. 448 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 IN THE EARLY 1990'S, SAUDI 449 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 ARABIA INVITED THE LARGEST U.S. 450 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,000 OVERSEAS DEPLOYMENT IN DECADES. 451 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,000 U.S. TROOPS USED THE KINGDOM AS 452 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 A BASE TO FIGHT THE GULF WAR. 453 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000 AFTER 9/11, THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HELD ONTO THE 454 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,000 ALLIANCE, TO COOPERATE ON 455 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,000 TERRORISM AND TARGET AL QAEDA. 456 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,000 AND IN 2017, PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE SAUDI ARABIA HIS FIRST 457 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,000 OVERSEAS STOP. 458 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 SAUDI ARABIA AND ALLIES HELPED 459 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,000 SHIF U.S. REGIONAL POLICY. 460 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 AND RIYADH-WASHINGTON 461 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000 COOPERATION HELPED LEAD TO THE 462 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,000 HISTORIC 2020 NORMALIZATION 463 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,000 AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ISRAEL, 464 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,000 BAHRAIN, AND THE UNITED ARAB 465 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 EMIRATES. 466 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000 >> TODAY, THE BIDEN 467 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,000 ADMINISTRATION IS RELEASING OUR 468 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,000 NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY. NICK: TODAY, THE U.S. SAYS IT'S 469 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,000 WELL AWARE THE RELATIONSHIP 470 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,000 PROVIDES BENEFITS. 471 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,000 BUT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL 472 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,000 REVIEW THE RELATIONSHIP AND 473 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,000 CONSULT LAWMAKERS, INCLUDING DEMOCRATS, WHO TODAY CALLED FOR 474 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 A ONE-YEAR BLOCK ON WEAPONS 475 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,000 SALES. 476 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,000 >> SAUDI ARABIA HAS BROKEN TRUST 477 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,000 WITH AMERICA, AND IT NEEDS TO COME TO ITS SENSES. 478 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,000 NICK: THE U.S.-SAUDI RELATIONSHIP HAS SURVIVED 479 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,000 PREVIOUS CHALLENGES. 480 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 THE ADMINISTRATION SAYS THERE'S 481 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,000 NO TIMETABLE FOR ITS REVIEW. 482 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M NICK 483 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 SCHIFRIN. 484 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 AMNA: REPRESENTATIVE RO KHANNA 485 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,000 OF CALIFORNIA IS A MEMBER OF THE 486 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,000 HOUSE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE AND IS SPEARHEADING THE HOUSE 487 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,000 VERSION OF THE BILL TO END U.S. 488 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 ARM SALES TO SAUDI ARABIA FOR 489 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,000 ONE YEAR. 490 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,000 HE JOINS ME NOW. 491 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 CONGRESSMAN, WELCOME BACK TO THE 492 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000 NEWSHOUR. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 493 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 YOU SAID THE U.S. NEEDS TO 494 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,000 IMMEDIATELY HALT THOSE ARMS 495 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,000 SALES. 496 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,000 THIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED MANY 497 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 TIMES BY MANY OTHER PEOPLE AND 498 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,000 IT HAS NEVER MOVED FWARD. 499 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000 WHY DO YOU THINK THIS MOMENT IS 500 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 DIFFERENT? 501 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 REP. KHANNA: THIS IS A DEFINING 502 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 MOMENT JUST LIKE THE WAR POWERS 503 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,000 RESOLUTION THAT STOPPED THE 504 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 REFUELING OF THE SAUDI PLANES 505 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 THAT SENATOR SANDERS AND I THAT 506 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 PASS AFTER JAMAL KHASHOGGI'S 507 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,000 MURDER. 508 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000 THIS OUTRAGED PEOPLE ON BOTH 509 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,000 SIDES OF THE AISLE. 510 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 WE PROVIDE SAUDI ARABIA WAS 70 511 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000 SOMETHING PERCENT OF THEIR ARMS 512 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,000 AND WE STOOD UP FOR THEM WHEN 513 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:23,000 SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS GOING TO 514 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000 INVADE AFTER SADDAM HAD INVADED 515 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000 KUWAIT AND SAUDI PLANES COULD 516 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000 NOT FLY IF NOT FOR AMERICAN 517 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,000 TECHNICIANS YET THEY ARE 518 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 FLEECING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, 519 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 MAKING ABOUT $100 BILLION IN 520 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,000 2022. 521 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 THERE NEED TO BE CONSEQUENCES. AMNA: WE PROVIDE THEM WITH ALL 522 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000 THESE THINGS YOU JUST LISTED BUT 523 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000 THEY PROVIDE US WITH CRUCIAL 524 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 COUNTERTERRORISM INTELLIGENCE 525 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 THAT THE U.S. RELIES ON FOR 526 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,000 NATIONAL SECURITY PURPOSES. 527 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,000 COULD IMPOSING CONSEQUENCES 528 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000 COMPROMISE U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY? 529 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 REP. KHANNA: NO, IT WILL NOT. 530 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 THEY ARE FAR MORE RELIANT ON US. 531 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 IN FACT, THE DEFENSE AGREEMENTS 532 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 WE HAVE, THE JOINT DEFENSE 533 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 INITIATIVES, ARE MORE DEFENSIVE 534 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER MAJOR ALLY 535 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 AND THAT IS ALL TOO SAUDI'S 536 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 BENEFIT. 537 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,000 THEY ARE FAR MORE DEPENDENT ON 538 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 US AND THEY ALREADY ARE MAKING 539 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 THESE DRASTIC CUTS AND THEY ARE 540 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 MAKING DRASTIC CUTS AT A TIME 541 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000 WHEN THEY ARE MAKING 70% PROFIT 542 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 MARGINS ON EACH BARREL OF OIL. 543 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 WHY ARE THEY DOING IT? THEY ARE 544 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,000 DOING IT TO HELP PUTIN BECAUSE 545 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 PUTIN IS SELLING HIS OIL AT A 546 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000 DISCOUNT OF $35 A BARREL TO 547 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 CHINA AND OTHER COUNTRIES. 548 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 TO APPEASE PUTIN, THEY ARE 549 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 HURTING THE AMERICAN SUMER AT 550 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 THE PUMP AND THAT IS JUST -- IT 551 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 WON'T STAND. WE HAVE FAR MORE LEVERAGE OVER 552 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 THEM THAN THEY DO FOR US. 553 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 AMNA: IT IS A GAMBLE. 554 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000 WHAT IF IT BACKFIRES? 555 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 WHAT IF A FURTHER CUT OIL 556 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 PRODUCTION? WHAT IF THEY END UP MOVING 557 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 FURTHER TOWARDS RUSSIA AND CHINA? 558 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 REP. KHANNA: THEY CANNOT MOVE 559 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000 FURTHER TOWARDS RUSSIA AND CHINA 560 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 IN THE NEAR TERM. 561 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 IT WOULD TAKE ALMOST 10 YEARS 562 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,000 FOR THEM TO BE ABLE T GET THE 563 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 WEAPONS THAT WE PROVIDE JUST 564 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,000 BECAUSE OF INTEROPERABILITY OF 565 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000 THESE WEAPONS AND THE AIR FORCE 566 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000 WOULD BE GROUNDED TO A HALT 567 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 TOMORROW IF THEY DID NOT HAVE 568 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000 AMERICAN TECHNICIANS. 569 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,000 MAYBE IT WOULD TAKE YEARS FOR 570 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 THEM TO BUILD WITH RUSSIA AND CHINA BUT THEY SIMPLY COULD NOT 571 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,000 DO THAT. 572 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 IN TERMS OF CUTS, THEY HAVE CUT 573 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 ALREADY. 574 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,000 I DON'T THINK FURTHER CUTS WOULD 575 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 BE POSSIBLE. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A 576 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000 MILLION BARRELS. 577 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 THEY HAVE CUT 2 MILLION BARRELS. 578 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 IN OTHER COUNTRIES IN OPEC, THE 579 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000 UAE AND KUWAIT, THEY WILL MAKE 580 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 UP FOR IT IF THEY WENT FOR 581 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 FURTHER CUTS. 582 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 THOUGH THEY ALREADY HAD TAKEN 583 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000 THE MOST DRASTIC ACTION. 584 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,000 AMNA: WHAT ABOUT IRAN IN ALL OF 585 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 THIS? NONE OF THIS UNFOLDS IN A 586 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000 VACUUM. 587 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 THE U.S. FOREIGN POLICY IN THE 588 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 REGION IS STRUCTURED LARGELY 589 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 AROUND SAUDI ARABIA. 590 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000 THIS SUMMER, WE APPROVED TWO 591 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 MASSIVE ARMS DEALS FOR SAUDI 592 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,000 ARABIA AND THE UNITED ARAB 593 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,000 EMIRATES TO HELP THEM DEFEND AGAINST IRAN. 594 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,000 THOSE CUTTING SAUDI ARM SALES 595 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,000 EMPOWER IRAN? REP. KHANNA: NO, IT DOESN'T. 596 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 I WAS OPPOSED TO THOSE ARMS 597 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,000 SALES. THE SAUDI'S ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 598 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 ONE OF THE BIGGEST HUMANITARIAN 599 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000 CRISES IN THE WORLD IN YEMEN. 600 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 IT IS APPALLING WHAT THEY HAVE 601 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 DONE TO THE CHILDREN THERE THE 602 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,000 STARVATION THAT IT HAS CAUSED 603 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 AND IT IS APPALLING THAT THEY 604 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 ARE CONTINUING TO BLOCKADE. 605 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 THE IRANIANS ARE TO BLAME IN 606 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000 YEMEN AS WELL BUT THE SAUDI'S 607 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,000 HAVE BEEN THE PRINCIPAL 608 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,000 PERPETRATORS OF THAT WAR SO I 609 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 DON'T THINK THAT CUTTING OFF 610 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 THESE ARM SALES ARE SUDDENLY 611 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000 GOING TO MAKE THEM VULNERABLE TO 612 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,000 IRAN. 613 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 I HAVE SPOKEN OUT VERY STRONGLY 614 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,000 FOR THE STUDENTS, FOR THE WOMEN 615 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,000 PROTESTING IN IRAN. 616 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000 I BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER WAYS 617 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 THAT WE CAN CONTAIN IRAN BUT WE 618 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000 SHOULD NOT USE A KISSINGERIAN 619 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 BALANCE OF POWER WHERE WE END UP 620 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000 SUPPORTING BRUTAL DICTATORS AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR OWN PUBLIC 621 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 BECAUSE OF SOME BALANCE OF POWER 622 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000 POLITICS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. AMNA: WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE 623 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN COULD HAVE DONE 624 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000 DIFFERENTLY IN THIS MOMENT? 625 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 HE WENT FROM CALLING SAUDI 626 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 ARABIA A VARIETY VISITING CROWN 627 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,000 PRINCE MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN ON IN 628 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000 JULY, THE FIST BUMP SEEN AROUND 629 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 THE WORLD. 630 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000 IS THERE ANYTHING THE PRESIDENT 631 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000 OR THIS ADMINISTRATION COULD 632 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000 HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY TO AVOID 633 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 THIS MOMENT? 634 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 REP. KHANNA: I DON'T THINK HE 635 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 SHOULD HAVE GONE TO SAUDI 636 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 ARABIA. 637 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000 SENATOR SANDERS AND I TOOK TO THE PAPERS TO SAY THAT THE TRIP 638 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000 WAS MISGUIDED. I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVBEEN 639 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000 CLEARER WITH THE SAUDI'S THAT 640 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 THERE WOULD BE VERY DRASTIC 641 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000 CONSEQUENCES BOTH IF THEY DID 642 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000 NOT LIFT THE BLOCKADE, WHICH 643 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000 THEY STILL HAVE NOT IN YEMEN 644 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000 BUT NOW THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT 645 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,000 ACTUALLY NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE TRUCE IN YEMEN, BUT 646 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000 CERTAINLY, EXTREMELY DRASTIC 647 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 CONSEQUENCES IF THEY CUT OIL 648 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,000 PRODUCTION SO I BELIEVE THAT HE 649 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000 COULD HAVE BEEN CLEARER ON ALL 650 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000 OF THOSE THINGS. 651 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,000 I'M GLAD HE'S CONTEMPLATING ACTION NOW AND MY BELIEF IS IF 652 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,000 WE ARE TOUGH ENOUGH, THEY WILL 653 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 REVERSE THE DECISION. 654 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000 YOU SAID HE IS 655 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,000 CONTEMPLATING ACTION. 656 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 YOU HEARD THE WORD CONSEQUENCES 657 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000 BUT NO SPECIFICS. 658 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000 HOW SERIOUS ARE THEY IN IMPOSING 659 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,000 IMMEDIATE CONSEQUENCES? REP. KHANNA: THEY HAVE TOLD ME 660 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 THAT THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO 661 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000 TAKE ACTION, THAT THE PRESIDENT 662 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000 IS RE-EXAMINING THE SAUDI 663 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 RELATIONSHIP AND THAT THE 664 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,000 ACTION IS IMMINENT, SO I BELIEVE 665 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000 THE PRESIDENT HAS TO ACT. 666 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 HOW CAN YOU ALLOW A COUNTRY THAT 667 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000 IS A "ALLY" TO CONTINUE TO 668 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 PROFIT OFF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC 669 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 AND MAKE DRASTIC CUTS WHEN WE 670 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 ARE GOING THROUGH ONE OF THE 671 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 BIGGER ENERGY CRISES WE HAVE IN 672 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000 RECENT DECADES? 673 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,000 ALLIES DON'T TREAT EACH OTHER 674 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,000 THAT WAY. AMNA: MORE BROADLY U.S. 675 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,000 OFFICIALS DID REPORTEDLY WARNED 676 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 SAUDI LEADERS THAT A CUT IN 677 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,000 PRODUCTION WOULD BE SEEN AS A CLEAR CHOICE THAT THEY ARE 678 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,000 SIDING WITH RUSSIA AND THE 679 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000 SAUD'S DID IT ANYWAY. 680 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000 WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU ABOUT 681 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000 HOW THEY VIEW THE WEST RIGHT 682 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 NOW? 683 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 --THE U.S. RIGHT NOW? 684 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 REP. KHANNA: THEY DON'T THINK 685 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 686 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 CONSEQUENCES. THEY SHOULD TAKE TEMPERATURE OF 687 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 MANY OF THE YOUNGER MEMBERS OF 688 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000 CONGRESS WHO ARE NOT STEEPED IN 689 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,000 THE SAME TRADITIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH SAUDI WHO 690 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000 BASICALLY KNOW SAUDI ARABIA 691 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000 THROUGH THE PRISM OF THE YEMEN 692 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,000 WAR AND THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS 693 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,000 THAT THEY HAVE CAUSED. 694 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000 THEY SHOULD REMEMBER THAT THE 695 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000 WAR POWERS RESOLUTION STOPPING 696 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 PASSED THE HOUSE AND SENATE. 697 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,000 THE ONLY TIME A WAR POWERS 698 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 RESOLUTION IS EVER PASSED. 699 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000 AND THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT NOW 700 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 THERE ARE GOING TO BE 701 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 CONSEQUENCES. 702 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 NOT JUST SENATOR BLUMENTHAL AND 703 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,000 I BUT SENATOR MENENDEZ, A 704 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 RESPECTED FOREIGN-POLICY VOICE 705 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 WHO CHAIRS THE SENATE FOREIGN 706 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,000 RELATIONS COMMITTEE CALLING FOR 707 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 IT. THEY ARE REALLY HURTING THEIR 708 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000 RELATIONSHIP ON THE HILL. AMNA: BRIEFLY IF YOU CAN, THE 709 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 SAUDI'S HAVE SAID THIS WAS 710 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000 ECONOMIC, THEIR DECISION TO CUT 711 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 OIL PRODUCTION. DO YOU BELIEVE IT HAD ANYTHING 712 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,000 TO DO WITH THE TIMING OF THE 713 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 UPCOMING MIDTERM ELECTIONS? REP. KHANNA: I DON'T KNOW BUT 714 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 IT'S NOT ECONOMIC WHEN THEY ARE 715 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000 MAKING OVER 70% PROFITS ON YOUR 716 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,000 BARRELS OF OIL. 717 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF EXXON 718 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000 AND CHEVRON BUT IT PALES TO THE 719 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 COARISON TO WHAT THE SAUDI'S 720 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 ARE MAKING ON OIL. 721 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THEY HAVE 722 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,000 CHOSEN DELIBERATELY TO HURT 723 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 AMERICANS AT THE PUMP. 724 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000 LOOK I DON'T THINK THE TIMING 725 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000 IS COINCIDENTAL BUT I HAVE NO 726 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 EVIDENCE OF WHY THEY HAVE TAKEN 727 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000 THAT DECISION. 728 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,000 ALL I KNOW IS THAT THEY ARE 729 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,000 HURTING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. 730 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,000 AMNA: THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE RO 731 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 KHANNA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 732 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,000 REP. KHANNA: THANK YOU. 733 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,000 ♪ 734 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,000 AMNA: PRESIDENT BIDEN'S 735 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000 EXECUTIVE ORDER TO CANCEL 736 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,000 STUDENT DEBT IS FACING ITS MOST 737 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000 SERIOUS LEGAL CHALLENGE TO DATE. 738 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 A FEDERAL JUDGE IN MISSOURI 739 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000 HEARD ARGUMENTS TODAY FROM SIX 740 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000 STATES HOPING TO BLOCK THE PLAN 741 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000 FROM TAKING EFFECT. 742 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000 TO QUALIFY FOR THE STUDENT LOAN 743 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000 PROGRAM, INDIVIDUALS MUST MAKE 744 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,000 LESS THAN $125,000 A YEAR OR 745 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000 $250,000 FOR MARRIED COUPLES AND 746 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000 FAMILIES. 747 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000 ELIGIBLE BORROWERS CAN RECEIVE UP TO $10,000 IN FORGIVENESS. 748 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,000 OR UP TO $20,000 IF THEY ARE 749 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,000 PELL GRANT RECIPIENTS. 750 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,000 WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT LAURA 751 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 BARRON-LOPEZ HAS BEEN FOLLOWING IT ALL AND JOINS ME NOW AS PART 752 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 OF OUR SERIES, "RETHINKING 753 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,000 COLLEGE." 754 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,000 LAURA, GOOD TO SEE YOU. 755 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 THAT'S TALK ABOUT THIS CASE THAT WAS HEARD TODAY. 756 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 WHAT ARE THE STATES ARGUING? 757 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,000 LAURA: THERE ARE SIX REPUBLICAN 758 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000 STATES INCLUDING NEBRASKA, 759 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 MISSOURI, ARKANSAS AND THEY ARE 760 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 ARGUING THE ADMINISTRATION'S 761 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 DEBT RELIEF PROGRAM IS ILLEGAL 762 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000 ON THREE FRONTS. 763 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 THOSE THREE FRONTSRE THAT THE 764 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 ADMINISTRATION LACKS AUTHORITY 765 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 THAT THEY DID NOT FOLLOW 766 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE AND THAT IT HARMS STATE REVENUE, SO 767 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 TODAY, WE SPOKE TO ARKANSAS 768 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 ATTORNEY GENERAL LESLIE RUTLEDGE 769 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 AND SHE REALLY FOCUSED ON 770 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT HAS 771 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000 AUTHORITY TO DO THIS AND TOOK 772 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000 ERECT AIM AT HIM. 773 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,000 >> THE PRESIDENT DID NOT HAVE 774 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THIS 775 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000 DECISION. 776 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,000 HE MADE THIS DECISION AND BASED 777 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,000 IT ON THE HEROES ACT WHICH 778 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,000 ESSENTIALLY WAS PUT IN PLACE 779 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 DURING THE IRAQ WAR IN ORDER TO 780 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 GIVE RELIEF TO OUR BRAVE MEN AND 781 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 WOMEN IN UNIFORM AND IT WAS ALSO 782 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 AS PART OF IT, COULD BE USED 783 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000 DURING A NATIONAL EMERGENCY. 784 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN FORGOT THAT HE 785 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 DECLARED THE PANDEMIC OVER A FEW 786 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:25,000 SHORT WEEKS AGO. 787 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000 >> AS YOU HEARD THE ATTORNEY 788 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,000 GENERAL SAYING, SHE THINKS THE 789 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000 PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE THIS 790 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000 AUTHORITY BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING IN THE ARGUMENTS 791 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000 TODAY WAS THAT MISSOURI JUDGE 792 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,000 HENRY REALLY SCRUTINIZED THAT, 793 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000 SAYING WHY IS THE PRESIDENT 794 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 BEING THE WOOD AS PART OF THIS 795 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000 LAWSUIT? AND QUESTIONING WHETHER 796 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000 OR NOT THE REPUBLICAN STATES HAD 797 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,000 STANDING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT 798 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,000 VERSUS STANDING AGAINST THE 799 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000 EDUCATION DEPARTMENT AND THE EDUCATION SECRETARY. 800 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 AMNA: A MAIN PART OF THEIR 801 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000 ARGUMENT IS THE MINISTRATION 802 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO 803 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000 VIEW THIS. WHAT HAS THE BIDEN 804 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000 ADMINISTRATION BEEN SAYING ABOUT 805 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,000 THIS? LAURA: THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION 806 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THEY WERE 807 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 GRANTED THIS AUTHORITY UNDER A 808 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 2003 HIGHER EDUCATION LAW THE 809 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000 HEROES ACT. 810 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000 TODAY, BRIAN NETTER ARGUED THAT 811 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000 THE PANDEMIC GIVES THEM THIS 812 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 AUTHORITY. 813 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000 >> IT IS CRUCIAL THAT THIS IS A 814 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000 STATUTE ABOUT EMERGENCIES 815 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000 NATIONAL EMERGENCIES, AND IT 816 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000 SEEMS HARD TO FATHOM THAT 817 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,000 CONGRESS WOULD NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD AT THE TIME THAT A 818 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000 LARGER NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS 819 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000 GOING TO PROMPT AND ASSESS THE 820 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000 TAKE A LARGER ACTION SECRETARY 821 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000 OF EDUCATION. 822 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 >> ESSENTIALLY HE IS SAYING 823 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000 THAT AS THE ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS 824 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000 WERE GROWING DUE TO THE COVID 825 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000 PANDEMIC, SO DOES THE POWER OF 826 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000 THE EDUCATION SECRETARY. 827 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000 THOSE POWERS GROW AS WELL WITH 828 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,000 IT. 829 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 HE SPECIFICALLY ARGUED AGAINST 830 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 THIS FRONT THAT THE STATES WERE 831 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,000 BRINGING FORWARD SAYING THAT 832 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 THIS NATIONAL EMERGENCY STATUTE 833 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,000 ONLY APPLIES TO SPECIFIC 834 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 MILITARY ACTIVITY. 835 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 IT APPLIES TO MILITARY MEMBERS 836 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000 SERVICE MEMBERS. 837 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000 HE SAID HISTORICALLY, THAT IS 838 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000 NOT THE CASE UNDER THIS LAW. 839 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,000 WHEN HE THINK ABOUT A HURRICANE 840 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000 GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PROVIDE 841 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000 RELIEF JUST WHEN THE HURRICANE IS SPINNING. 842 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000 AFTER A NATIONAL EMERGENCY 843 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 HAPPENS OR NATIONAL DISASTER 844 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 LIKE THAT, THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO 845 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,000 HELP PEOPLE COME OUT OF THAT COME OUT OF ECONOMIC HARDSHIPS 846 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000 BROUGHT UPON BY NATIONAL 847 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000 EMERGENCIES. AMNA: WHAT ABOUT THE WHOLE 848 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,000 RACIAL EQUITY PART OF THIS? WE 849 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 HEARD THE MESSAGE THAT IS AN 850 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 UNDERPINNING AS TO WHY THEY WERE 851 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000 ROLLING OUT THIS LOAN 852 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000 FORGIVENESS PROGRAM. 853 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,000 HOW DOES THAT FACTOR INTO THEIR 854 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000 ARGUMENT? LAURA: THE STATES WERE SAYING 855 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 THIS IS ONLY GOING TO PROVIDE 856 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 RELIEF TO WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS 857 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000 HIGHER INCOME INDIVIDUALS. 858 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,000 WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS SAYING BACK IS YOU HAVE TO LOOK 859 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,000 AT WHO THE BORROWERS ARE THESE 860 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 LOAN PROGRAMS. 861 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,000 AND FOR THE LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM, IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY 862 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 IMPACT BLACK BORROWERS. 863 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 SPECIFICALLY THE AVERAGE DEBT 864 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000 IS 10,000 MORE THAN FOR WHITE 865 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000 BORROWERS. 866 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,000 PELL GRANT RECIPIENTS ARE TWICE 867 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,000 AS LIKELY TO BE BLACK. 868 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 ANOTHER BIG PIECE OF THIS IS THE 869 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000 FEDERAL FAMILY EDUCATION LOAN 870 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 BORROWERS WHICH WAS AT FIRST 871 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000 PART OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT WHEN 872 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000 THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THEY 873 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000 WERE GOING TO PROVIDE THIS BIG 874 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000 CANCELLATION OF DEBT AND THEN 875 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 THEY ENDED UP TAKING THAT OUT OF 876 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,000 THE GUIDANCE, SAYING THAT THESE BORROWERS WOULD NOT BE GIVEN 877 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 THIS RELIEF AND THAT WAS A BIG 878 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,000 PIECE OF THIS LAWSUIT. 879 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,000 BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THE STATES 880 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 ARE ARGUING THAT THEY GET STATE 881 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 REVENUES FROM THE COMPANIES THAT 882 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,000 TAKE ON THOSE LOANS FROM THOSE 883 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 BORROWERS. 884 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000 BY THE GOVERNMENT IS SAYING THAT 885 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 ULTIMATELY, THE RELIEF PROVIDED 886 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000 TO THESE BORROWERS IS -- IT FAR 887 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 ALWAYS THE STATE REVENUE THAT 888 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,000 WOULD ULTIMATELY BE LAST. 889 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,000 AGAIN, ON THE FEDERAL FAMILY 890 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000 LOAN BORROWERS THE 891 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,000 ADMINISTRATION HASRIED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WHILE TY MAY NOT 892 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000 RECEIVE RELIEF NOW, THAT 893 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000 ULTIMATELY THE EDUCATION 894 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,000 DEPARTMENT IS TRYING TO FIND AN 895 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000 ALTERNATIVE PATHWAY FOR THEM. 896 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000 AMNA: BEFORE ANYONE CAN GET ANY 897 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000 RELIEF THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT AN 898 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,000 APPLICATION. 899 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000 WE HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATING THE 900 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000 RELEASE OF THAT FORMROM THE 901 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,000 WHITE HOUSE. 902 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,000 WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT? 903 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000 LAURA: THEY ISSUED A PREVIEW 904 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 THIS WEEK, THE WHITE HOUSE DID 905 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 AND ESSENTIALLY, WHAT BORROWERS 906 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,000 HAVE TO DO, THEY HAVE TO GET 907 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,000 SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, DATE OF 908 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,000 BIRTH, EMAIL BUT THEY ALSO HAVE 909 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000 TO CLICK THIS BOX THAT CERTIFIES 910 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,000 UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT 911 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000 THEY MEET THE INCOME THRESHOLDS. 912 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 SOME OF THOSE BORROWERS WILL BE 913 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000 PROVIDED JUST BASED ON TT 914 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,000 CERTIFICATION, WILL BE PROVIDED 915 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000 RELIEF. OTHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW 916 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,000 MORE PROOF THAT THEY MEET THOSE 917 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000 INCOME THRESHOLDS THAT YOU 918 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,000 OUTLINED EARLIER. NOW, I SPOKE TO THE WHITE HOUSE 919 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 ASSISTANT PRESS SECRETARY TODAY 920 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000 AND HE SAID THAT ESSENTIALLY, AS 921 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000 THE LAWSUITS ARE PROCEEDING, 922 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000 BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN JUST 923 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000 THE ONE WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY 924 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000 THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS GOING TO 925 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH 926 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN. 927 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,000 NO RELIEF IS GOING TO BE FELT 928 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000 PRIOR TO OCTOBER 23 BUT THE 929 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,000 APPLICATION PROCESS IS GOING TO 930 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000 BE ROLLED OUT THIS MONTH. 931 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000 AMNA: FOLKS CAN CHECK THAT OUT 932 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000 AND START TO APPLY IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE. 933 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT LAURA 934 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000 BARRON-LOPEZ. 935 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000 THANK YOU SO MUCH. LAURA: THANK YOU. 936 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,000 ♪ 937 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 AMNA: ELECTION NIGHT IS LESS 938 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000 THAN A MONTH AWAY AND WE'RE 939 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000 DIGGING INTO SOME KEY RACES THAT COULD DETERMINE THE BALANCE OF 940 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000 POWER IN CONGRESS. 941 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,000 LISA DESJARDINS HAS MORE. 942 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,000 LISA: LET'S TALK ABOUT CONTROL 943 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000 OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 944 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,000 TO TAKE OVER THE HOUSE 945 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000 REPUBLICANS NEED TO GAIN JUST 946 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,000 FIVE TOTAL SEATS NEXT MONTH. 947 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000 NET. 948 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000 THEIR PARTY MAY HAVE A SLIGHT 949 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000 ADVANTAGE FROM REDISTRICTING. 950 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000 BUT THERE ARE DOZENS OF 951 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,000 COMPETITIVE RACES, INCLUDING 952 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000 MORE THAN 30 RATED AS TOSS-UPS. 953 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,000 TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE MAP 954 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000 I'M JOINED BY THREE PUBLIC MEDIA 955 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,000 REPORTERS, KAREN KASLER OF OHIO PUBLIC RADIO AND TELEVISION, 956 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000 SCOTT SHAFER WITH KQED IN CALIFORNIA, AND ZOE CLARK WITH 957 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000 MICHIGAN RADIO. 958 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,000 SO HAPPY TO HAVE ALL OF YOU 959 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000 TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 960 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 EACH OF YOUR STATES HAS LOST A 961 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BECAUSE 962 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000 OF REDISTRICTING BUT YOU ALSO 963 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000 EACH HAVE A CLUTCH OF 964 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000 COMPETITIVE RACES THAT COULD DETERMINE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE. 965 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 I WONDER IF YOU COULD SET THE 966 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000 MOOD FOR US. 967 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 WHAT IS ON VOTERS MINDS QUESTION 968 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,000 MARC EVERYTHING FROM THE WEATHER 969 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 TO REDISTRICTING TO ISSUES THAT 970 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000 YOU THINK MIGHT BE AFFECTING 971 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000 THEIR VOTE. 972 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000 LET'S START OUT WEST WITH YOU 973 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,000 SCOTT SHAFER. SCOTT: CALIFORNIA HAS AN UNUSUAL 974 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 SYSTEM FOR CREATING 975 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000 REDISTRICTING. IT IS A CITIZEN'S COMMISSION. 976 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 IT IS NOT GERRYMANDERING. 977 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000 SO WE HAVE FOUR TO SIX 978 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000 COMPETITIVE HOUSE RACES IN 979 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000 CALIFORNIA INCLUDING PROBABLY 980 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,000 TWO OF THE 10 MOST VULNERABLE 981 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000 REPUBLICANS. DAVID IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY AND 982 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000 MIKE GARCIA IN LOS ANGELES. 983 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,000 BOTH OF THEM RUNNING IN PLUS D 984 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,000 DISTRICTS WHERE DEMOCRATS 985 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000 OUTNUMBER REPUBLICANS. IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE SEAT 986 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 THAT WE LOST, KAREN BASS DECIDED 987 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 NOT TO RUN FOR REELECTION. 988 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,000 SHE IS NOT RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF 989 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000 LOS ANGELES WHICH IS DOMINATING THE HEADLINES AND NOT IN VERY 990 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000 GOOD WAYS. 991 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 IN TERMS OF ISSUES IN TERMS OF 992 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000 THESE CONGRESSIONAL RACES IT IS 993 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000 A COMPETING NARRATIVE. REPUBLICANS WANT TO TALK ABOUT 994 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 GAS PRICES AND THE ECONOMY AND 995 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000 DEMOCRATS WANT TO TALK ABOUT 996 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 ABORTION RIGHTS AND ABOUT 997 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000 THREATS TO DEMOCRACY SO YOU HAVE 998 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000 THESE COMPETING NARRATIVES THAT 999 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000 ARE PLAYING OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN 1000 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,000 TRAIL AND ON TELEVISION AND IN 1001 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 ADDITION I WOULD SAY THAT 1002 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,000 REPUBLICANS ALSO WANT TO TALK 1003 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,000 ABOUT CRIME AND IMMIGRATION 1004 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,000 MUCH MORE SO THAN ABORTION 1005 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,000 RIGHTS. AMNA: WHAT IS GOING ON IN 1006 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 CHIGAN? 1007 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,000 HIS POLITICS BREAKING THROUGH IN 1008 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000 GENERAL? ZOE: IT ACTUALLY IS, IF YOU CAN 1009 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000 IMAGINE. IT IS NOT JUST SPARTANS AND 1010 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000 WOLVERINES IN MICHIGAN ALTHOUGH THE WEATHER IS ALWAYS SOMETHING 1011 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000 WE TALK ABOUT. 1012 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 MUCH LIKE WHAT SCOTT SAID, IT IS 1013 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,000 ABOUT THE ECONOMY. 1014 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000 IT IS ABOUT INFLATION. 1015 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000 IT IS ABOUT GAS PRICES. 1016 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,000 SINCE THE DECISION HERE IN 1017 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000 MICHIGAN ABORTION HAS BECOME 1018 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000 SOMETHING THAT HAS CHANGED THE 1019 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000 DYNAMIC. 1020 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000 WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT IS 1021 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000 GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT IN 1022 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000 NOVEMBER THAT WOULD ENSHRINE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, ABORTION 1023 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000 RIGHTS INTO THE STATE 1024 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000 CONSTITUTION. 1025 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,000 SO ON TOP OF THESE REALLY MUST 1026 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000 WATCH CONGRESSIONAL SEATS SOME 1027 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,000 OF THE MOST COMPETITIVE IN THE COUNTRY, ABORTION IS SHORT OF -- 1028 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000 SORT OF OVERSHADOWING THE 1029 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,000 CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO 1030 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,000 ALL OF THESE RACES. 1031 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000 AMNA: IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE 1032 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000 FINDING IN OHIO? 1033 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,000 KAREN: I CANNOT LET ZOE TALK 1034 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 ABOUT THOSE TEAMS WITHOUT 1035 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 MENTIONING THE BUCKEYES AND 1036 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,000 FOOTBALL HERE BUT THERE'S A LOT 1037 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,000 OF CONVERSATION ALSO ABOUT THE 1038 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,000 FEW COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS HERE. 1039 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000 OUR MOST COMPETITIVE SEAT AND 1040 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000 RACE REALLY IS THE OHIO U.S. 1041 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 SENATE RACE. 1042 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 BUT IN OHIO, WE ARE STARTING 1043 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,000 EARLY VOTING TODAY AND IT IS 1044 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT OHIO 1045 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 WENT FROM 16 TO 15 DISTRICTS. 1046 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000 MAJORITY REPUBLICANS DREW MAPS 1047 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,000 THAT WERE RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL 1048 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000 SEVERAL TIMES BY THE SUPREME 1049 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,000 COURT AND WERE RUNNING ELECTIONS 1050 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 ON MAPS THAT WERE RULED 1051 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 UNCONSTITUTIONAL BUT PUT INTO PLACE BY A FEDERAL COURT. 1052 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 SO WHILE WE ARE ELECTING 1053 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,000 REPRESENTATIVES THROUGH THESE 1054 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,000 MAPS THIS TIME AROUND, THOSE 1055 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000 COULD CHANGE BASED ON THE 1056 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000 RESULTS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE 1057 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000 ELECTION NEXT MONTH. 1058 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000 SO THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT -- THERE 1059 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 ARE 10 SAFE DISTRICTS AND FIVE DEMOCRATIC SEATS BUT ONLY A 1060 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000 COUPLE ARE CONSIDERED VERY 1061 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,000 COMPETITIVE. 1062 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,000 AMNA: I WANT TO COME BACK TO 1063 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000 YOU. I TALKED TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT 1064 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000 FAVORITE RACES. LET'S START IN OHIO AND YOUR 1065 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000 FAVORITE RACES WHEN I AM 1066 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000 WATCHING IS ONE OF THE LONGEST 1067 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000 SERVING WOMEN IN CONGRESS, MARCY 1068 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000 KAPTUR. 1069 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000 THAT IS A RACE WHERE IT IS NOT JUST ISSUES BUT ALSO THE EFFECT 1070 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000 PERHAPS A PRESIDENT TRUMP AND 1071 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 THE 2020. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT RACE AND 1072 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000 WHAT YOU ARE WATCHING IN THAT 1073 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,000 TOLEDO AREA? 1074 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 KAREN: THAT RACE HAS TIGHTENED 1075 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000 UP A LOT. 1076 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,000 JR MAJEWSKI BROKE OUT WHEN HE 1077 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 GOT THE ATTENTION OF DONALD 1078 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000 TRUMP BY PAINTING A PICTURE OF 1079 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,000 TRUMP ON HIS LAWN AND TRUMP 1080 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000 SHOUTED OUT TO HIM AT A RALLY. 1081 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000 HE ENDED UP WINNING BEATING 1082 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000 SOME OTHER ESTABLISHED 1083 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000 POLITICIANS, AND NOW HE AND 1084 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000 MARCY KAPTUR ARE FACING OFF. 1085 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,000 HE MADE HEADLINES RECENTLY 1086 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 BECAUSE HE HAS CLAIMED THAT HE 1087 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000 SAW COMBAT IN AFGHANISTAN BUT AN 1088 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000 INVESTIGATION HAS SHOWN THAT IS NOT THE CASE. 1089 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000 HE ALSO SAID HE WAS AT THE 1090 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000 CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6. 1091 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000 HE HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH 1092 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000 ANYTHING. ALL OF THIS HAS MADE THIS RACE A 1093 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000 LITTLE MORE REPETITIVE AND HOUSE 1094 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000 REPUBLICANS PULLED THEIR ADS IN 1095 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 THIS RACE SO THAT HAS TIGHTENED 1096 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000 THINGS UP. 1097 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 THERE IS AN OPEN SEAT THAT 1098 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000 FEATURES TWO WOMEN. 1099 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000 AMELIA SYKES, THE FORMER 1100 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,000 DEMOCRATIC LEADER OF THE OHIO 1101 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,000 HOUSE, AND ADDISON GILBERT A 1102 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 TRUMP ENDORSED REPUBLICAN. 1103 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 ONLY 12 OHIO WOMEN HAVE EVER 1104 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,000 BEEN ELECTED TO CONGRESS FROM 1105 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,000 THE STATE SO THAT IS GOING TO 1106 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000 MAKE HISTORY WITH THAT RACE. 1107 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,000 AMNA: I LIKE THAT OHIO 13 RACE 1108 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000 BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY RUSTBELT 1109 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000 SEAT THAT MIGHT TELL US 1110 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000 SOMETHING ABOUT THE SENATE RACE 1111 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,000 AS IT EVOLVES OVER THE NIGHT. 1112 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000 SPEAKING OF, LET'S GO BACK TO 1113 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000 YOU IN MICHIGAN, ZOE. 1114 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000 YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST 1115 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000 OFFENSIVE HOUSE RACES IN THE 1116 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000 COUNTRY AMONG OTHERS THAT I KNOW 1117 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000 YOU'RE WATCHING. ALYSSA SLOTKIN, THE INCUMBENT 1118 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000 DEMOCRAT IS A MUST WIN SEAT FOR 1119 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000 DEMOCRATS IF THEY HAVE ANY HOPE 1120 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000 OF HOLDING THE HOUSE. 1121 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,000 ZOE: ABSOLUTELY AND THIS 1122 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000 DISTRICT IS FASCINATING. 1123 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000 IT WENT FOR DONALD TRUMP IN 1124 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000 2016. IT WENT FOR TRUMP IN 2020. 1125 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000 BUT ALYSSA SLOTKIN HAS WON IT 1126 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000 TWO TIMES SO SHE'S LOOKING FOR A 1127 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000 THIRD WIN HERE. 1128 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE SEVENTH 1129 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BECAUSE 1130 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 OF REDISTRICTING AND SHE'S 1131 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000 ALWAYS OUTPERFORMED AS A 1132 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000 DEMOCRAT. 1133 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000 SHE HAS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER, STATE 1134 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000 SENATOR TOM BARRETT. 1135 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 AGAIN, LIKE WE HAVE BEEN TALKING 1136 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000 ABOUT THIS NARRATIVE, HE'S 1137 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000 TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE 1138 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000 ECONOMY, TRYING TO TALK ABOUT 1139 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,000 INFLATION, TRYING TO TALK ABOUT 1140 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000 JOE BIDEN, AND I WAS JUST 1141 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000 TALKING TO ALYSSA SLOTKIN THE 1142 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000 CONGRESSWOMAN, TODAY. 1143 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000 SHE IS TALKING FUNDAMENTALLY 1144 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000 ABOUT RIGHT AND WHAT SHE WANTS 1145 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000 TO SEE HAPPEN CHANGE IN D.C. 1146 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000 INCLUDING, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, 1147 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000 IMMIGRATION, SHE SAID, IN THE 1148 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000 STATE OF MICHIGAN, AS WELL AS 1149 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000 THE COST OF CHILDCARE. 1150 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000 WE ALSO HAVE THE THIRD 1151 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. 1152 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,000 THIS ONE IS JUST FASCINATING. 1153 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,000 THIS IS WHERE PETER MAYER, A FRESHMAN REPUBLICAN WITHIN THE 1154 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000 FIRST FEW DAYS OF BEING SWORN IN 1155 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,000 VOTED TO IMPEACH DONALD TRUMP 1156 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,000 FOR THE SECOND TIME AND HE LOST 1157 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,000 HIS PRIMARY IN AUGUST TO A 1158 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000 FORMER TRUMP OFFICIAL, JOHN 1159 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000 GIBBS. 1160 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,000 THIS REALLY IS AN OPEN SEAT NOW. 1161 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 WE HAVE A DEMOCRAT RUNNING. 1162 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,000 IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD LEAN 1163 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000 DEMOCRAT MORE BECAUSE AGAIN 1164 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000 THIS REDISTRICTING. BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN 1165 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000 CLOSER HAD HE WON THE SEAT BUT 1166 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000 AGAIN, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS 1167 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000 BOOTED HIM OUT AND WENT WITH 1168 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000 THIS TRUMP ENDORSED REPUBLICAN 1169 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000 AND SAID THIS COULD BE A 1170 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,000 DEMOCRATIC WIN. AMNA: YOU HEAR ZOE TALKING ABOUT 1171 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000 A PLACE THAT DEMOCRATS HOPE TO 1172 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000 FLIP THIS YEAR. YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE, TOO. 1173 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000 TELL US ABOUT THE CONGRESSMAN 1174 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000 AND WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN 1175 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,000 CALIFORNIA. SCOTT: HE LOST THE C IN 2018 AND 1176 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000 GOT IT BACK IN 2020 SO HE 1177 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000 ACTUALLY VOTED TO IMPEACH DONALD 1178 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000 TRUMP BUT HE IS GETTING 1179 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000 PROTECTION FROM THAT. 1180 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 TRUMP HAS NOT GONE AFTER HIM 1181 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,000 BECAUSE HIS DISTRICT IS RIGHT 1182 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 NEXT TO KEVIN MCCARTHY. 1183 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000 IT INCLUS PART OF BAKERSFIELD 1184 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 HIS HOMETOWN. 1185 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000 HE'S RUNNING IN A DISTRICT THAT 1186 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,000 IS 59% LATINO. 1187 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,000 RUDY SALAS WOULD BE THE FIRST 1188 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000 LATINO MEMBER OF CONGRESS FROM 1189 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000 THE CENTRAL VALLEY EVER AND HE'S 1190 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000 ALSO COSPONSORING OUR 1191 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000 PROPOSITION ONE WHICH WOULD ENSHRINE ABORTION RIGHTS HERE IN 1192 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000 CALIFORNIA. 1193 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000 WHEN OTHER QUICKLY RACE THAT 1194 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000 I'M LOOKING AT, THE 44TH 1195 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,000 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN 1196 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,000 RIVERSIDE, A 30 YEAR REPUBLICAN 1197 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000 INCUMBENT HAS EASILY GOTTEN 1198 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 REELECTED BUT THE REDISTRICTING 1199 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000 HAS TAKEN OUT SOME OF THE MOST 1200 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 CONSERVATIVE PARTS OF HIS 1201 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000 DISTRICT AND ADDED PALM SPRINGS 1202 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000 AND OTHER DISTRICTS WITH A LOT 1203 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,000 OF LGBT VOTERS. 1204 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000 ANTI-GAY POSITIONS AND 1205 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,000 CAMPAIGNINAND HE'S RUNNING 1206 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000 AGAINST AN OPENLY GAY FEDERAL 1207 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000 PROSECUTOR WHO PROSECUTED 1208 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000 SOMEBODY IN THE JANUARY 6 CASES. 1209 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000 HE DID NOT VOTE TO CERTIFY THE 1210 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000 ELECTION SAW LOTS OF INTERESTING CROSSCURRENTS THERE. 1211 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000 AMNA: I HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM 1212 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000 YOU ALL ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION. 1213 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000 I WANT A SHOW OF HANDS ON THIS 1214 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000 LAST QUESTION WHICH MAY BE 1215 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000 UNUSUAL, BUT HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO 1216 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000 ANY DEMOCRATS IN TOUGH RACES IN 1217 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,000 YOUR STATES WHO WOULD LIKE 1218 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN TO COME AND 1219 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000 CAMPAIGN FOR THEM? 1220 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,000 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SHOW OF 1221 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,000 HANDS IF ANYONE HAS TALKED TO A 1222 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000 DEMOCRAT LIKE THAT. 1223 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000 BOTH THE FORMER AND CURRENT 1224 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000 PRESIDENT SEEM TO BE ON THE 1225 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000 BALLOT THIS YEAR IN THE 2022 1226 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,000 MIDTERMS. 1227 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,000 WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO ALL OF YOU 1228 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000 FOR JOINING US. 1229 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000 THANK YOU ALL. SCOTT: THANK YOU. 1230 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000 KAREN: THANKS. 1231 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000 ZOE: GREAT TO BE HERE. 1232 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000 AMNA: THANK YOU TO LISA. 1233 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000 IN ANOTHER BATTLEGROUND STATE, 1234 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000 WISCONSIN, THE SENATE AND 1235 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000 GOVERNOR'S RACES E IN THE 1236 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000 SPOTLIGHT. AND WHILE YOUNGER AMERICANS 1237 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000 TRADITIONALLY SHOW UP TO THE 1238 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,000 POLLS AT LOWER RATES THAN OLDER 1239 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,000 GENERATIONS, ONE RECENT STUDY 1240 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,000 SUGGESTS YOUNG VOTERS COULD PLAY 1241 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,000 A DECISIVE ROLE IN THE STATE'S 1242 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000 ELECTIONS THIS NOVEMBER. 1243 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000 JUDY WOODRUFF RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH A GROUP OF HIGH SCHOOL AND 1244 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000 COLLEGE STUDENTS IN WISCONSIN WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR THE FIRST 1245 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,000 TIME. 1246 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000 JUDY: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR THIS 1247 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000 CONVERSATION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 1248 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000 YOU ALL, THE REASON WE HAVE YOU 1249 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,000 HERE IS TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT 1250 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000 THAT THIS IS THE FIRSTEAR 1251 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000 YOU'RE GOING TO BE VOTING. 1252 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000 AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT 1253 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000 THAT MEANS TO YOU. 1254 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000 SO, RYAN, I'M GOING TO START 1255 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000 WITH YOU. 1256 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000 HOW BIG A DEAL IS IT TO YOU THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE VOTING FOR 1257 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000 THE FIRST TIME HERE? 1258 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000 RYAN: IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL FOR 1259 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000 ME. I MEAN, I SORT OF SEE IT AS SORT 1260 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000 OF LIKE WHEN YOU'RE 16, YOU GET 1261 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000 YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE, WHEN 1262 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000 YOU'RE 18, YOU GET TO VOTE. 1263 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000 KATHERINE: I ACTUALLY REGISTERED 1264 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,000 TO VOTE IN MY AP GOVERNMENT 1265 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000 CLASS ON MY BIRTHDAY, WHICH WAS 1266 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,000 A FUN EXPERIENCE. 1267 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000 IT'S VERY EASY TO REGISTER 1268 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,000 ONLINE NOW. 1269 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,000 I'VE BEEN VERY POLITICALLY 1270 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,000 ENGAGED THUGHOUT HIGH SCHOOL 1271 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,000 AND I'M EXCITED TO GET MY FOOT 1272 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,000 IN THE DOOR AND ACTUALLY HAVE A 1273 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,000 VOICE IN MY GOVERNMENT. 1274 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,000 JUDY: AND BEN, YOU'RE TURNING 18 1275 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000 JUST IN TIME TO VOTE IN EARLY 1276 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000 NOVEMBER. 1277 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000 HOW BIG A DEAL FOR YOU? 1278 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000 BEN: I AM VERY EXCITED TO VOTE. EVERYONE IN MY FAMILY HAS ALWAYS 1279 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 VOTED, AND ALTHOUGH NOT A TON OF 1280 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000 PEOPLE MY AGE DO VOTE AS IT'S 1281 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000 ONE OF THE LOWER TURNOUT GROUPS, 1282 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,000 I'M VERY EXCITED TO VOTE BECAUSE 1283 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,000 I THINK HAVING THAT VOICE IN OUR 1284 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000 ELECTIONS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 1285 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000 JUDY: WHAT IS IT THAT YOU CARE 1286 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,000 ABOUT A LOT THIS YEAR THAT IS 1287 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000 DRIVING YOU ESPECIALLY TO WANT 1288 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,000 TO VOTE IN 2022? 1289 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000 KATHERINE: I DO SEE THE 1290 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,000 CANDIDATES, BUT I SEE PRO-CHOICE 1291 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000 AND PRO-LIFE. 1292 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,000 PERSONALLY, I AM EXTREMELY 1293 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,000 PRO-CHOICE. 1294 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000 I'VE ALWAYS GROWN UP WITH THE 1295 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000 BELIEF THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE ABLE 1296 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000 TO HAVE BODILY AUTONOMY IN OUR GOVERNMENT. 1297 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,000 AMAYA: I AGREE WITH THE 1298 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,000 PRO-CHOICE MOVEMENT. 1299 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,000 I THINK WOMEN HAVE BEEN RIPPED 1300 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000 OF THEIR BODILY AUTONOMY SPECIFICLY IN THE STATE. 1301 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000 AND I THINK THAT IT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS WOMEN 1302 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000 OF COLOR AND WOMEN FROM MORE LOW 1303 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,000 INCOME COMMUNITIES. 1304 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,000 AND THE DISPROPORTIONATE EFFECT 1305 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000 THAT THAT HAS ON THEIR ACCESS TO 1306 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,000 HEALTH CARE, THEIRCCESS TO 1307 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,000 REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE, THAT THEIR 1308 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000 JUST -- THEIR RIGHT TO BE A 1309 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000 MOTHER OR TO CHOOSE NOT TO BE IS FRUSTRATING TO WITNESS TO 1310 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,000 SOMEBODY WHO CAN BE SUBJECTED TO 1311 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,000 THESE LAWS. 1312 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,000 SO THAT FOR ME IS VERY TOP OF MIND. 1313 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,000 SOREN: FOR ME, IT'S OUR ECONOMY. 1314 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000 I MEAN, I SEE ON THE DECLINE 1315 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,000 EVERYTHING SEEMS MORE EXPENSIVE. 1316 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,000 OUR GAS IS MORE EXPENSIVE. 1317 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000 IT'S SUCH A UP AND DOWN, YOU 1318 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000 DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO 1319 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000 HAPPEN WITH IT. FOR ME, IT'S SCARY. 1320 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000 AND IT'S ESPECIALLY SCARY 1321 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,000 BECAUSE WITH EVERYTHING ON THE 1322 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,000 RISE, I HAVE CELIAC DISEASE. 1323 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,000 I ALREADY SPEND AN ARM AND A LEG 1324 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,000 FOR MY FOOD. IT'S GOING TO END UP HURTING 1325 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,000 PEOPLE WHENEVER THEY CAN'T 1326 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 AFFORD THE FOOD THEY NEED TO 1327 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,000 FEED THEIR FAMILIES. RYAN: AS THE SON OF TWO 1328 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,000 TEACHERS, EDUCATION IS A VERY 1329 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000 BIG ISSUE FOR ME. 1330 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,000 I PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT 1331 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,000 EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO 1332 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,000 QUALITY EDUCATION, WHETHER THAT 1333 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,000 BE, YOU KNOW, GOOD SCHOOLS, GOOD 1334 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000 PUBLIC EDUCATION, OR ACCESS TO 1335 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000 COLLEGE AND LESS COLLEGE DEBT. 1336 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,000 BEN: I THINK MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS 1337 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000 VOTING REALLY IN TERMS OF THE 1338 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000 AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T VOTE UNDER OUR CURRENT SYSTEM. 1339 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,000 WE HAVE A LOT OF LAWS IN 1340 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000 WISCONSIN, ESPECIALLY VOTER ID 1341 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,000 LAWS, THAT MAKE IT VERY HARD FOR 1342 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000 PEOPLE TO VOTE. 1343 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,000 ANOTHER BIG THING ON MY MIND IS HEALTH CARE. 1344 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,000 SEEING RON JOHNSON VOTE AGAINST 1345 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,000 THE ACCESS TO INSULIN WAS HUGELY 1346 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,000 DISAPPOINTING TO ME AS A 1347 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,000 DIABETIC, SEEING THAT IT, WHILE 1348 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,000 IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT ME 1349 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,000 THERE'S MANY PEOPLE IN MY 1350 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000 SITUATION WHERE THAT BILL WOULD 1351 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,000 HAVE HUGELY HELPED THEM AND 1352 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,000 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE IF -- 1353 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,000 WHEN PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS LIKE 1354 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,000 THAT. JUDY: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 1355 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000 PERSON IN OFFICE RIGHT NOW 1356 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN. 1357 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,000 HOW DO YOU THINK HE'S DOING? 1358 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,000 BEN: I THINK THAT WITH ANY PRESIDENT, THERE WILL ALMOST 1359 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,000 ALWAYS BE ARGUMENT THAT THEY ARE 1360 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,000 NOT DOING ENOUGH. 1361 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000 AND I THINK THAT I CAN SAY THAT 1362 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000 ABOUT BIDEN RIGHT NOW. THE NEW DECISION TO PARDON 1363 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,000 THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ON A LOW 1364 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,000 LEVEL, ON LOW LEVEL FEDERAL 1365 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,000 MARIJUANA CHARGES IS A GREAT 1366 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000 DECISION, I THINK WITH HIS 1367 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,000 DECISION TO HELP WITH STUDENT 1368 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,000 DEBT, THOUGH, HE CAMPAIGNED ON BIGGER PROMISES, I THINK THAT AT 1369 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,000 LEAST HE FULFILLED IT SOMEWHAT. 1370 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,000 AND I THINK AT YOU CAN ALWAYS 1371 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,000 ASK FOR MORE. 1372 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,000 BUT I WILL SAY THAT I AM RELATIVELY PLEASED WITH HOW HE'S 1373 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,000 DOING SO FAR. 1374 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000 KATHERINE: I BELIEVE THAT HE'S 1375 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000 NOT DELIVERING ON CAMPAIGN PROMISES THAT HE MADE, SUCH AS 1376 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000 PROTECTING OUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE. 1377 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,000 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM CODIFY 1378 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,000 -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM DO A 1379 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,000 BIT MORE TO SERVE THE AMERICAN 1380 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,000 PEOPLE. 1381 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,000 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM CODIFY ROE OR MAKE A MORE OF A EFFORT 1382 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,000 TO. 1383 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,000 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM PROTECT 1384 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,000 THAT RIGHT ASK THE SENATE TO 1385 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000 PROTECT THAT RIGHT. 1386 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000 ASK THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES 1387 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,000 TO PROTECT THAT RIGHT. 1388 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,000 I WANT TO SEE HIM FIGHT TOOTH 1389 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,000 AND NAIL FOR THAT RIGHT. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT SO FAR. 1390 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,000 JUDY: SOREN, WHAT ABOUT YOU? 1391 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,000 WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF HOW 1392 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN'S DOING? 1393 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,000 SOREN: I QUITE DON'T LIKE 1394 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,000 PRESIDENT BIDEN. 1395 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,000 CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MY 1396 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000 FIRST CHOICE, NOR WOULD HAVE DONALD TRUMP BEEN MY FIRST 1397 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,000 CHOICE FOR THIS ELECTION OR FOR 1398 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,000 THE PREVIOUS ELECTION. 1399 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,000 I THINK HE'S DOING HE'S DOING 1400 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000 WELL ENOUGH FOR NOW, BUT I DON'T 1401 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,000 THINK HE IS DOING ENOUGH. 1402 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,000 JUDY: WHAT DO YOU THINK HE 1403 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,000 SHOULD BE DOING THAT HE'S NOT DOING? 1404 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,000 SOREN: HE, WELL, FOR ONE, I 1405 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,000 THINK HIS AFGHANISTAN PULLOUT 1406 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,000 WAS A DISASTER. HE LEFT SO MANY PEOPLE, IT WAS 1407 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,000 PETRIFYING. 1408 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000 HE'S NOT DOING ENOU ON THE 1409 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,000 BORDER. WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF 1410 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,000 PEOPLE GETTING IN. 1411 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000 AND IT'S SCARY KNOWING, YOU 1412 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000 DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE. 1413 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000 THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT HE 1414 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000 COULD BE DOING THAT HE'S NOT, I 1415 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000 MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S MADE 1416 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000 EFFORT TO TRY OR NOT. 1417 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000 JUDY: AMAYA, WHAT IS YOUR SENSE 1418 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,000 OF HOW PRESIDENT BIDEN IS DOING? 1419 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,000 AMAYA: I THINK IF I HAD VOTED IN 1420 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,000 THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 1421 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,000 I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR BIDEN. I THINK HE IS NOT LIVING UP TO 1422 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,000 THE PROMISES HE MADE, BUT I 1423 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,000 DON'T KNOW OF ANY PRESIDENT THAT 1424 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,000 HAS. 1425 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,000 SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A 1426 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,000 FAIR STANDARD TO HOLD HIM AT. 1427 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,000 I THINK AS A FIRSTHAND RECIPIENT 1428 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,000 OF WHAT THE STUDENT LOAN 1429 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,000 FORGIVENESS WAS, MY MOM FOUGHT 1430 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,000 FOR THE UNITED STATES ARMY FOR 1431 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,000 FOUR YEARS, WAS A RECIPIENT OF 1432 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,000 THE GI BILL, GOT AN ASSOCIATE'S 1433 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,000 IN NURSING AND STILL HAD LOANS. 1434 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,000 SO FOR HER LOANS TO BE 1435 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,000 COMPLETELY FORGIVEN MEANS AN 1436 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,000 INCREDIBLE AMOUNT. 1437 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,000 RYAN: WHILE I WOULD LIKE FOR 1438 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000 BIDEN TO HAVE DONE MORE, WE LIVE 1439 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,000 IN SUCH A POLARIZED COUNTRY 1440 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,000 RIGHT NOW THAT DESPITE HIS 1441 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,000 EFFORTS TO GET THINGS DONE, IT'S 1442 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,000 JUST SO HARD RIGHT NOW TO GET 1443 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,000 ANYTHING THROUGH, WHICH IS LIKE, 1444 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000 OBVIOUSLY, I'D LIKE, YOU KNOW 1445 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000 MARIJUANA TO BE LEGALIZED. I'D LIKE TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY 1446 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000 WHERE ROE IS CODIFIED, WHERE 1447 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,000 ABORTIONS ARE AVAILABLE. 1448 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,000 I'D LOVE TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY 1449 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000 WHERE THEY, WHERE I DON'T HAVE 1450 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,000 TO WORRY ABOUT STUDENT LOAN 1451 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:46,000 DEBT, BUT IT'S JUST HARD TO GET 1452 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000 THROUGH ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW IN HOW THE STATE OF AMERICA IS 1453 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000 TODAY. 1454 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,000 JUDY: A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE 1455 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,000 MENTIONED OR ALLUDED TO FORMER 1456 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,000 PRESIDENT TRUMP. 1457 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,000 JUDY AMAYA, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON 1458 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,000 THE FORMER PRESIDENT? 1459 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,000 AMAYA: I GREW UP IN A VERY 1460 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000 ISOLATED, IN A VERY WHITE 1461 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,000 POPULATED COMMUNITY, AND I HAD NEVER EXPERIENCED THE DIFFERENCE 1462 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,000 THAT I WAS BLACK UNTIL TRUMP WAS 1463 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,000 IN PRESIDENCY. 1464 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,000 THAT COMPLETE ISOLATION THAT WAS 1465 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000 BROUGHT ON JUST BY THIS POLITICAL FIGURE. 1466 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,000 WE HAD HMONG FACILITIES IN MY 1467 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,000 COMMUNITY THAT WERE DESTROYED IN 1468 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,000 THE NAME OF TRUMP. 1469 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,000 WE HAD MONUMENTS THAT WERE 1470 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,000 DESTROYED IN THE NAME OF TRUMP. 1471 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,000 WE HAD PEOPLE WHO WERE ATTACKED 1472 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,000 IN THE NAME OF TRUMP. AND I THINK HE BROUGHT OUT THE 1473 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,000 WORST IN PEOPLE AND HE SUPPORTED 1474 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,000 IT AND HE DIDN'T CORRECT THAT 1475 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,000 BEHAVIOR. AND I BELIEVE NO PRESIDENT WOULD 1476 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000 EVER DO THAT. 1477 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,000 JUDY: KATHRYN. 1478 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000 KATHERINE: HE, BY ALL ACCOUNTS 1479 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000 DISGRACED AMERICA IN THE JANUARY 1480 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,000 6 INSURRECTION. 1481 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,000 HE, THOUGH THE HEARINGS ARE 1482 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,000 STILL GOING ON, PERSONALLY, I 1483 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000 BELIEVE THAT HE INCITED THE 1484 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,000 INSURRECTION AND SENT A MOB OF 1485 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000 ANGRY PEOPLE TO THE CAPITOL, WHICH IS COMPLETELY 1486 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:45,000 UNDEMOCRATIC. 1487 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000 AND HE ALSO DID NOT FACILITATE A 1488 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000 PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER WHICH HAS BEEN AN AMERICAN 1489 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,000 TRADITION FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, 1490 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:57,000 WHICH UPSET ME GREATLY. 1491 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,000 SOREN: I DID, DO SUPPORT TRUMP 1492 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000 AND HAVE FOR QUITE A WHILE. 1493 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,000 I MEAN, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, HE HAD THE NATION IN THE BEST 1494 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000 ECONOMIC PERIOD WE HAD FOR QUITE 1495 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,000 A LONG TIME. 1496 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,000 HE KEPT US VERY WELL. 1497 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,000 UNFORTUNATELY, HE DID HAVE HIS WRONGDOINGS AND HAS BEEN A NASTY 1498 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000 PERSON AND HAS ALMOST ALWAYS 1499 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,000 BEEN. 1500 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000 BUT HE ALSO WAS THE PERSON 1501 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,000 POLITICALLY WISE, HE RAN AMERICA 1502 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,000 AS A BUSINESS, IN MY OPINION. HE RAN IT AS THOUGH THAT'S WHAT 1503 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,000 IT WAS. AND SO RUNNING IT LIKE A 1504 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,000 BUSINESS, HIM BEING A BUSINESS 1505 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,000 MAN, ALLOWED US TO HAVE 1506 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000 FINANCIAL GAIN, ALLOWED US TO 1507 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000 PROSPER IN THOSE TIMES UNTIL COVID HAD HIT AND WHICH KIND OF 1508 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000 TANKED THE ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY. 1509 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,000 AMNA: -- JUDY: WOULD YOU LIKE TO 1510 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,000 SEE HIM SERVE IN OFFICE AGAIN? 1511 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000 SOREN: MOST LIKELY NOT. 1512 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,000 JUDY: WHY NOT? SOREN: FOR THE SOLE REASON OF, 1513 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000 ST IT COMES DOWN TO THE 1514 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000 RIOTING. IT COMES DOWN TO HIM BEING A 1515 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000 NASTY PERSON. 1516 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,000 AND I THINK THE FIRST FOUR YEARS 1517 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,000 IS GOOD, BUT I DON'T THINK 1518 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,000 ANOTHER FOUR YEARS WOULD BE 1519 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000 GREAT. 1520 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000 RYAN: I WILL AGREE WITH SOREN 1521 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000 THAT THE ONE THING GOOD THING I THINK DONALD TRUMP EVER DID WAS 1522 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,000 WITH THE ECONOMY. 1523 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,000 THAT IS THE ONLY GOOD THING I 1524 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,000 WILL SAY ABOUT HIM. 1525 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,000 I BELIEVE IN THIS COUNTRY WE 1526 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,000 SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS SORT OF THE 1527 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,000 MASSIVE DIVISION WE HAVE BETWEEN REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, BECAUSE 1528 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,000 WORKING TOGETHER IS HOW WE FIX 1529 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,000 THINGS. 1530 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,000 AND DONALD TRUMP BASICALLY DROVE A GIGANTIC WEDGE BETWEEN PEOPLE. 1531 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:26,000 HE WAS SUCH A POLARIZING FIGURE 1532 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,000 THAT FROM 2016 ONWARDS, THE 1533 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,000 COUNTRY COULD NEVER GET ANYTHING 1534 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,000 DONE. JUDY: AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE 1535 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,000 PERCENTAGE OF OF PEOPLE WHO VOTE 1536 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,000 OF YOUR GENERATION, THE YOUNGEST GENERATION VOTE LESS FREQUENTLY, 1537 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,000 A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF YOU VOTE 1538 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,000 THAN THE OLDER FOLKS DO IN THE 1539 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,000 COUNTRY. 1540 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,000 BUT I REALLY DO WANT TO 1541 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,000 UNDERSTAND HOW YOU SEE THE POLITICIANS LISTENING OR NOT 1542 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,000 LISTENING TO YOUR GENERATION 1543 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,000 RIGHT NOW. 1544 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,000 AMAYA? 1545 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,000 AMAYA: I DO THINK THAT THERE HAS 1546 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,000 BEEN EFFORTS. 1547 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,000 I KNOW SEVERAL CANDIDATES 1548 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,000 THROUGHOUTHE PAST TWO YEARS 1549 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,000 HAVE BEEN TO CAMPUSES, HAVE 1550 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,000 LITERALLY BEEN OUTREACHED. 1551 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,000 THEY SIT AND THEY LISTEN. BUT ONCE THEY'RE ELECTED INTO 1552 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,000 OFFICE, THAT STOPS. AND THAT COMMUNICATION LINE IS 1553 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,000 YOU'RE EMAILING A STAFFER OR 1554 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,000 YOU'RE EMAILING A SECRETARY. E ODDS 1555 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,000 THAT IT ACTUALLY GETS THAT PERSON IS SO SLIM TO 1556 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,000 NONE THAT THE REALITY THAT 1557 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000 THEY'RE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO 1558 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,000 THE COMPLAINTS OF THEIR OWN 1559 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000 CONSTITUENTS IS VERY LIKE, I 1560 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,000 HAVE NO FAITH THAT THEY ARE 1561 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:22,000 LISTENING TO THOSE. 1562 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,000 AND SO IT'S HARD TO SAY WHEN I 1563 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,000 DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE 1564 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,000 HEARING THE ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. 1565 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,000 SOREN: I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAD 1566 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,000 MORE YOUNG VOTERS AND MORE 1567 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,000 PEOPLE THAT VOTED AS SOON AS 18 OR AS SOON AS THEY POSSIBLY 1568 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,000 COULD, I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD HAVE 1569 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,000 MORE POLITICIANS LISTENING TO 1570 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,000 OUR OPINIONS, LISTENING TO WHAT WE WANT. 1571 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,000 KATHERINE: I THINK THAT WHAT 1572 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000 POLITICIANS NEED TO UNDERSTAND 1573 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,000 IS THAT IF YOU START POLITICALLY 1574 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,000 ENGAGING KIDS WHEN THEY'RE 18 TO 1575 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,000 21, WHEN THEY'RE JUST STARTING 1576 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,000 TO GET THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR, 1577 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,000 IN POLITICS, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY 1578 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,000 TO HAVE AN ENGAGED AUDIENCE OR AN ENGAGED CONSTITUENCY AS WE 1579 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,000 GROW UP. 1580 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000 AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A FACT THAT'S OVERLOOKED MOST OFTEN. 1581 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,000 BEN: A LOT OF THESE POLITICIANS 1582 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:06,000 ARE JUST SO MUCH OLDER THAN US. 1583 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,000 THE PROBLEMS THAT I SEE ARE 1584 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000 GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT 1585 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000 BECAUSE FOR OUR 80 AND 60 YEAR 1586 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,000 -- 80-YEAR-OLD AND 60-YEAR-OLD 1587 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,000 SENATE MEMBERS, CLIMATE CHANGE 1588 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,000 MEANS REE OR FOUR DEGREES AND 1589 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,000 THEN THEY AREN'T GOING TO BE 1590 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,000 AROUND MUCH LONGER. 1591 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,000 BUT FOR ME, CLIMATE CHANGE MEANS I MIGHT SEE THE WORLD CRUMBLE 1592 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,000 . 1593 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,000 THESE POLITICIANS ARE SO MUCH 1594 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,000 OLDER THAN US. 1595 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,000 THEY'VE BEEN IN THESE OFFICES 1596 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,000 FOR SO LONG THAT THEY DON'T NEED 1597 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,000 TO LISTEN TO US. 1598 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000 THEY'VE KIND OF GOT THEIR 1599 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000 ELECTION SECURED ALMOST THAT 1600 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,000 THEY JUST KIND OF KEEP COMING 1601 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000 BACK IN AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO ENGAGE ANYMORE. 1602 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 JUDY: WELL, THIS HAS BEEN 1603 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,000 -- THERE'S SO MUCH MORE I'D LOVE 1604 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,000 TO ASK YOU, BUT IT'S BEEN SUCH A 1605 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,000 WONDERFUL CONVERSATION. 1606 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,000 I SO APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF YOU 1607 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,000 SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS. 1608 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,000 THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. 1609 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,000 AMNA: AND TOMORROW NIGHT, JUDY 1610 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,000 WILL HAVE A REPORT ON THE SENATE 1611 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,000 RACE IN WISCONSIN BETWEEN 1612 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,000 INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN RON JOHNSON 1613 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,000 AND DEMOCRAT MANDELA BARNES, ONE 1614 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,000 OF THE CRITICAL CONTESTS THAT 1615 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,000 WILL DETERMINE CONTROL OF THAT 1616 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,000 LEGISLATIVE BODY. 1617 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,000 ALSO TOMORROW, JOIN US TOMORROW 1618 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,000 HERE ON PBS FOR SPECIAL LIVE 1619 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,000 COVERAGE OF THE JANUARY 6 1620 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000 COMMITTEE'S PUBLIC HEARING 1621 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,000 BEGINNING AT 1:00 P.M. 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IRAN INTENSIFIES THE CRACKDOWN 1680 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,000 WITH PROTESTERS SHOWING NO SIGN 1681 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,000 OF BOWING TO THE PRESSURE. 1682 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:56,000 THE COUNTRY'S DEEP CULTURE OF 1683 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,000 PROTEST WITH THE