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[00:00.000 --> 00:05.000]  And how the Kiev regime is playing out on Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
[00:05.000 --> 00:07.000]  Everyone completely hates everything Russian.
[00:07.000 --> 00:10.000]  This is what we will talk about today in our program.
[00:19.000 --> 00:22.000]  Hello, this is the meeting place on NTV, the place where everything becomes clear.
[00:22.000 --> 00:25.000]  I am Andrey Norkin, my colleague Ivan Trushkin. We are working live.
[00:25.000 --> 00:34.000]  Today we want to start with the analysis of Vladimir Putin's speech at yesterday's plenary meeting of the Valdai Club.
[00:34.000 --> 00:42.000]  As Dmitry Peskov previously announced, this will be Putin's speech, which will be studied, read and re-read.
[00:42.000 --> 00:47.000]  That's what he said. In fact, this is how it turned out. There is no irony on our part,
[00:47.000 --> 00:54.000]  because the Western media have torn apart the speech of our president and the answers to the questions.
[00:54.000 --> 00:59.000]  The other thing is that they do not really understand what he said.
[00:59.000 --> 01:04.000]  Therefore, the question of whether we forgive them for this or not is a separate topic.
[01:04.000 --> 01:10.000]  They mainly write that Putin did not say anything new. Putin again faced threats.
[01:10.000 --> 01:15.000]  Putin threatens with such and such a weapon, nuclear, and so on and so forth.
[01:15.000 --> 01:17.000]  Did they listen to some other Putin?
[01:17.000 --> 01:24.000]  I do not know. It seemed to me that there were several new things.
[01:24.000 --> 01:29.000]  For example, the president said that we have a civil war.
[01:29.000 --> 01:31.000]  I do not remember this before.
[01:31.000 --> 01:35.000]  He had a thesis that we are a united people with the Ukrainians.
[01:35.000 --> 01:39.000]  Then Fedor Lukyanov, the moderator of the session, asked him a question.
[01:39.000 --> 01:44.000]  Let's see what he tells you. We will start from this moment.
[01:44.000 --> 01:48.000]  We have a civil war, part of the nation.
[01:48.000 --> 01:51.000]  Partly, yes. But we were in different states.
[01:51.000 --> 01:55.000]  Unfortunately, due to a number of reasons.
[01:55.000 --> 02:00.000]  First of all, creating the Soviet Union after the collapse of the empire.
[02:00.000 --> 02:04.000]  As I wrote in my articles and said repeatedly.
[02:04.000 --> 02:11.000]  Speaking of special operations in Ukraine, Vladimir Putin said that its main goal is to help the population of Donbass.
[02:11.000 --> 02:17.000]  According to the words of the president, Russia could not simply recognize the independence of the region and at the same time abandon its inhabitants.
[02:17.000 --> 02:22.000]  Without the inclusion of Donbass in Russia, he, as Putin said, would not survive.
[02:22.000 --> 02:30.000]  You see, we are originally, I said right on the day the operation began, the most important thing for us is the help to Donbass.
[02:30.000 --> 02:34.000]  Look, I have already mentioned this.
[02:34.000 --> 02:42.000]  If we had acted differently, we would not have been able to deploy our armed forces around Donbass from both sides.
[02:42.000 --> 02:49.000]  This is the first. The second, the Lugansk People's Republic is completely liberated.
[02:49.000 --> 02:54.000]  There are military events related to the Donetsk Republic itself.
[02:54.000 --> 03:07.000]  Well, of course, when our troops approached from the south and from the north, it became obvious that the people living in these historical Novorossiysk territories saw their future together with Russia.
[03:07.000 --> 03:10.000]  How could we not respond to this?
[03:10.000 --> 03:27.000]  Therefore, those events that we are all witnesses to, they arose as a logical continuation of the situation that has taken place at the moment.
[03:27.000 --> 03:34.000]  But the plan was and the goal was the same, the help to the people who live in Donbass.
[03:34.000 --> 03:36.000]  This is where we come from.
[03:36.000 --> 03:43.000]  Continuing the thought, Vladimir Putin stated that Russia is the only country that can ensure the security of Ukraine.
[03:43.000 --> 03:45.000]  Now I just thought about it.
[03:45.000 --> 04:00.000]  Frankly speaking, the only, real, such a serious guarantor of Ukrainian statehood, sovereignty and territorial integrity could be only Russia, which has created today's Ukraine.
[04:00.000 --> 04:06.000]  The President once again confirmed Russia's readiness for negotiations, including with the United States,
[04:06.000 --> 04:15.000]  whose authorities in December last year the Kremlin proposed to resume dialogue on strategic stability, but they responded in silence.
[04:15.000 --> 04:22.000]  Can you imagine yourself in the role of one of the leaders, or rather Khrushchev, it turns out?
[04:22.000 --> 04:24.000]  In no case.
[04:24.000 --> 04:26.000]  We will not get there.
[04:26.000 --> 04:30.000]  No, I can not imagine myself in the role of Khrushchev, not at all.
[04:30.000 --> 04:35.000]  Well, and in the role of a leader who will have to solve this question?
[04:35.000 --> 04:38.000]  We are ready to solve any questions, we do not refuse.
[04:38.000 --> 04:44.000]  In December last year, we proposed to the United States to continue dialogue on strategic stability.
[04:44.000 --> 04:46.000]  They did not answer us.
[04:46.000 --> 04:58.000]  Well, they still do not answer until Biden's last statement, there was such a funny little thing, if Putin does not want to use nuclear weapons, why does he always mention him?
[04:58.000 --> 05:00.000]  Well, because they always mention him.
[05:00.000 --> 05:02.000]  Well, okay, the logic is this.
[05:02.000 --> 05:06.000]  Iosif Evgenievich, what they heard, although they should have heard.
[05:06.000 --> 05:08.000]  I heard everything.
[05:08.000 --> 05:14.000]  No, that's the main thing, I, for example, such an interpretation, wait a second.
[05:14.000 --> 05:20.000]  Iosif Evgenievich, what I like about you, you can just be called by name and surname, and you immediately start talking.
[05:20.000 --> 05:22.000]  You will talk for at least two hours.
[05:22.000 --> 05:24.000]  And the main thing is the case.
[05:24.000 --> 05:30.000]  This is Putin's speech, if you can put him in line with his predecessors.
[05:30.000 --> 05:32.000]  Another attempt.
[05:32.000 --> 05:42.000]  I read that it was almost the last attempt to explain that for the beginning of the negotiations, there was time left with Gulkin, this very nose.
[05:42.000 --> 05:50.000]  And this is such an attempt, well, not a compulsion to the world, but an explanation that, guys, let's do it.
[05:50.000 --> 05:52.000]  And why not a compulsion to the world?
[05:52.000 --> 05:54.000]  Compulsion to the world is a good thing.
[05:54.000 --> 06:00.000]  I have always said in this lecture that the position of our president is a compulsion to reason.
[06:00.000 --> 06:12.000]  And it was once again, but this time, why am I saying that I heard everything I wanted, this is an expanded concept of the formation of a post-crisis world.
[06:12.000 --> 06:16.000]  Expanded with pragmatism, with priorities.
[06:16.000 --> 06:30.000]  Excuse me, I'll interrupt you right away, but how then to answer the doubts of those who write, wow, an expanded concept, decades of full unpredictability.
[06:30.000 --> 06:48.000]  At the same time, exactly the proposal of those who have enough reason to unite and who defend sovereignty and their national interests, to unite against everyone who creates this very unpredictable world.
[06:48.000 --> 06:50.000]  Actually, everything was there step by step.
[06:50.000 --> 07:00.000]  And the system of international calculations and the reform of the Security Council and the formation of a coalition with those in the West is a formula.
[07:00.000 --> 07:06.000]  There are different in the West, including the people with whom we are ready, and so on.
[07:06.000 --> 07:09.000]  The president has already returned to this several times.
[07:09.000 --> 07:11.000]  There is a great strategy about this.
[07:11.000 --> 07:18.000]  And in this sense, if you read the book that I gave you, there is a lot of it.
[07:18.000 --> 07:21.000]  That's why I heard everything.
[07:21.000 --> 07:26.000]  And in my opinion, now the question is only one.
[07:26.000 --> 07:39.000]  To the public of the Euro-Atlantic, which, while preserving its national and state interests, should remove the Euro-Atlantic from the battlefield.
[07:39.000 --> 07:41.000]  Do you believe in this possibility?
[07:41.000 --> 07:43.000]  I am a sociologist.
[07:43.000 --> 07:45.000]  I am a simple person.
[07:45.000 --> 07:51.000]  In March, 80% of Europeans supported Ukraine.
[07:51.000 --> 08:00.000]  And today, in Italy, 70% demand immediate and said to the new prime minister that she is a fool.
[08:00.000 --> 08:01.000]  This is not me.
[08:01.000 --> 08:04.000]  These are the members of her parliamentary faction.
[08:04.000 --> 08:07.000]  And we will lose all electoral support.
[08:07.000 --> 08:10.000]  And this is happening in many countries.
[08:10.000 --> 08:16.000]  Schultz has his electorate and his deputy.
[08:16.000 --> 08:18.000]  Okay, let's not get distracted now.
[08:18.000 --> 08:20.000]  Maybe we will return to the key to this compulsion.
[08:20.000 --> 08:21.000]  The key?
[08:21.000 --> 08:22.000]  Yes, the compulsion to the world.
[08:22.000 --> 08:23.000]  And what do you call the key?
[08:23.000 --> 08:26.000]  How do we compel this world, Viktor?
[08:26.000 --> 08:27.000]  As usual.
[08:27.000 --> 08:28.000]  The electorate, sorry.
[08:28.000 --> 08:30.000]  Not only you, not only you, Mr. President.
[08:30.000 --> 08:31.000]  With all due respect.
[08:31.000 --> 08:32.000]  You have an eternal opponent with us.
[08:32.000 --> 08:34.000]  This is Mr. President.
[08:34.000 --> 08:40.000]  I will not mention what Mr. Putin said about the new example of Italy.
[08:40.000 --> 08:45.000]  He predicted that she would be more inclined to the Russian position.
[08:45.000 --> 08:46.000]  When did he say that?
[08:46.000 --> 08:57.000]  The first thing she did was to say that she supports NATO and she supports the position of NATO in Ukraine.
[08:57.000 --> 08:59.000]  She was told that she is a fool.
[08:59.000 --> 09:03.000]  Unfortunately, as predicted, the elections in Italy did not take place.
[09:03.000 --> 09:06.000]  Please return from Italy to what I am trying to ask you.
[09:06.000 --> 09:12.000]  Returning to the speech of the Russian president.
[09:12.000 --> 09:24.000]  How can we compel the West, first of all, the United States, which, of course, is playing the first violin in the West, to change the attitude towards Russia?
[09:24.000 --> 09:26.000]  We can only compel in one way now.
[09:26.000 --> 09:28.000]  With successes at the front.
[09:28.000 --> 09:29.000]  There is no other way.
[09:29.000 --> 09:36.000]  Because at the moment the United States behaves as they behave, as they believe that Russia does not win in Ukraine.
[09:36.000 --> 09:49.000]  And while they will think that Russia fails to solve those tasks and those goals set by the president at the very beginning of the special operation in February, the United States will continue its anti-Russian policy in Ukraine.
[09:49.000 --> 09:56.000]  Does this mean, Mr. President, that all such events and the speech of the president are pointless?
[09:56.000 --> 10:00.000]  And it is necessary to concentrate solely on the introduction of military action?
[10:00.000 --> 10:01.000]  Not at all.
[10:01.000 --> 10:09.000]  The fact is that in the speech of the president, the word calls for negotiations sounded eight times.
[10:09.000 --> 10:10.000]  This is not accidental.
[10:10.000 --> 10:19.000]  Russia, as before the special operation, as well as now, says openly to the West, not to mention Kiev, that Russia wants negotiations.
[10:19.000 --> 10:22.000]  Russia wants negotiations on strategic stability.
[10:22.000 --> 10:25.000]  Russia wants negotiations on the exit from the Ukrainian crisis.
[10:25.000 --> 10:27.000]  Russia needs these negotiations.
[10:27.000 --> 10:34.000]  But in order for the West to go into serious negotiations, successes at the front are necessary.
[10:34.000 --> 10:43.000]  At the moment, Russia needs to show, at least until the spring of next year, that it is able to hold those territories that are currently under its control.
[10:43.000 --> 10:53.000]  And if the Russian armed forces manage to develop at least a little success at the front, already mobilized, then the United States may slightly change its position.
[10:53.000 --> 10:56.000]  I will explain why it may change.
[10:56.000 --> 11:08.000]  Because now, in the present time, the Americans and their European partners justify huge costs, they justify it with the possible successes of the Ukrainian armed forces.
[11:08.000 --> 11:12.000]  They say that Ukraine can win, Ukraine can defeat this, that, and the third.
[11:12.000 --> 11:15.000]  You have already told us this, just so as not to repeat, excuse me, to save time.
[11:15.000 --> 11:31.000]  I want to ask Alexander Yurievich, before we leave the presidential speech, you regularly told us about the exit to the western borders of Ukraine, you repeated this to us many times.
[11:31.000 --> 11:39.000]  Yesterday, the president said that we can become Russia, ready to stand as a guarantor of Ukraine's sovereignty and security.
[11:39.000 --> 11:43.000]  Don't you think that this directly contradicts what you said?
[11:43.000 --> 11:54.000]  If I heard the verb correctly, it could be. There is no promise to do this in the future.
[11:54.000 --> 11:57.000]  It could only be Russia, which created today's Ukraine.
[11:57.000 --> 11:58.000]  It will never be.
[11:58.000 --> 12:01.000]  Do you think that he was talking about the past, not about the future?
[12:01.000 --> 12:02.000]  Of course.
[12:02.000 --> 12:14.000]  Look, wait, I will remind you that 4-5 regions of the former Ukraine, the territorial integrity of which you are talking about, are already part of Russia.
[12:14.000 --> 12:15.000]  Just a second, if you forgot.
[12:15.000 --> 12:17.000]  5 regions, even 6.
[12:17.000 --> 12:18.000]  5.
[12:18.000 --> 12:19.000]  Sevastopol is a separate region.
[12:19.000 --> 12:23.000]  The president explained to you how this happened.
[12:23.000 --> 12:29.000]  Look, these words really caused an uproar.
[12:29.000 --> 12:35.000]  And the fact that we are only saving Donbass, as always, everything is gone, we are leaving.
[12:35.000 --> 12:44.000]  Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin always clearly knows which audience he is talking to.
[12:44.000 --> 12:47.000]  Representatives of 111 countries.
[12:47.000 --> 12:54.000]  Most of them are the countries of our potential allies, or at least not our enemies.
[12:54.000 --> 13:01.000]  There was absolutely no need to cause an uproar in them by the fact that we will take all of Ukraine.
[13:01.000 --> 13:07.000]  Three weeks ago, a direct question about Ukraine.
[13:07.000 --> 13:13.000]  He said that Ukraine is an anti-Russian project, which we will close.
[13:13.000 --> 13:14.000]  Was it said?
[13:14.000 --> 13:15.000]  It was.
[13:15.000 --> 13:17.000]  So the project is not Ukraine.
[13:17.000 --> 13:19.000]  But let's divide it.
[13:19.000 --> 13:26.000]  Wait, you are not talking about that. I am rapidly losing interest in our discussion.
[13:26.000 --> 13:31.000]  May I return the conversation to the line that seems to me to be more correct?
[13:31.000 --> 13:35.000]  Look, the compulsion to the world of keys.
[13:35.000 --> 13:38.000]  Negotiations were mentioned eight times.
[13:38.000 --> 13:42.000]  Do not wave your hands, Alexei Valentinovich, you are creating a loophole in the studio.
[13:42.000 --> 13:43.000]  I will give you the floor.
[13:43.000 --> 13:47.000]  And the need for military success.
[13:47.000 --> 13:52.000]  What I read again, what thoughts I have are probably wrong.
[13:52.000 --> 13:55.000]  I'll tell you now, and then you'll give me the next story.
[13:55.000 --> 14:00.000]  This is the compulsion of Putin's speech, these calls for negotiations.
[14:00.000 --> 14:05.000]  This is what we see, the upper part of this iceberg.
[14:05.000 --> 14:08.000]  The whole story is closed.
[14:08.000 --> 14:19.000]  We explain to everyone who needs it, that we have a month left before the beginning of winter, before the cold.
[14:19.000 --> 14:22.000]  We are now conducting our military operation like this, like this, like this.
[14:22.000 --> 14:26.000]  Including hitting the energy infrastructure.
[14:26.000 --> 14:33.000]  As far as I understand, we will now start with the fact that someone in the West says, oh, how correctly the Russians began to behave.
[14:33.000 --> 14:40.000]  At the same time, again, to all our, I don't know, contragents, pay attention.
[14:40.000 --> 14:45.000]  We are not throwing anything away on the most important, on the most critical of critical objects.
[14:45.000 --> 14:46.000]  For now.
[14:46.000 --> 14:47.000]  For now.
[14:47.000 --> 14:51.000]  So, guys, this is really our last warning.
[14:51.000 --> 14:54.000]  Let's sit down with you for a table of negotiations.
[14:54.000 --> 15:03.000]  If you don't understand this, then with the end of autumn and the onset of winter, then Ukraine will indeed move to the dark side.
[15:03.000 --> 15:06.000]  As the pictures with Shorlykina say.
[15:06.000 --> 15:08.000]  Someone in the West says that this is effective.
[15:08.000 --> 15:09.000]  Well, some newspaper wrote it.
[15:09.000 --> 15:11.000]  This is, in fact, the IKONOMIST, the IKONOMIST magazine.
[15:11.000 --> 15:16.000]  It says that our strikes on the energy infrastructure of Ukraine are effective and it works.
[15:16.000 --> 15:19.000]  But it works from the point of view of the lack of electricity somewhere.
[15:19.000 --> 15:22.000]  But so far it does not work from the point of view of changing consciousness.
[15:22.000 --> 15:24.000]  With the compulsion to negotiations.
[15:24.000 --> 15:25.000]  Yes.
[15:25.000 --> 15:27.000]  People who make some decisions in Kiev.
[15:27.000 --> 15:29.000]  Let's look at the material.
[15:29.000 --> 15:37.000]  At the end of the week, social networks flooded photos and videos of the evening and night Kiev, where the main source of light is car headlights.
[15:37.000 --> 15:46.000]  After the next Russian strikes on the energy infrastructure, the authorities of the Ukrainian capital warned that the shutdowns would be unplanned and long-lasting.
[15:46.000 --> 15:50.000]  The energy operator is clear that he does not promise anything good to Kiev.
[15:50.000 --> 15:56.000]  For your understanding, Kiev usually consumes from 1000 to 1200 megawatts.
[15:56.000 --> 16:00.000]  Currently, the reference power is 600-800 megawatts.
[16:00.000 --> 16:04.000]  That is, almost half of Kiev can be left without electricity.
[16:04.000 --> 16:10.000]  Unfortunately, the shutdowns will be longer and will affect a much larger number of consumers.
[16:10.000 --> 16:19.000]  A large number of consumers is, according to the estimates of Ukrainian telegram channels, more than 300 thousand subscribers in Kiev and about half a million in the region.
[16:19.000 --> 16:23.000]  We really have a large deficit in the central region.
[16:23.000 --> 16:33.000]  Today in Kiev and in the Kiev region and in the listed areas of Zhitomir, Chernihiv and Cherkassk, there is an urgent shutdown of electricity.
[16:33.000 --> 16:36.000]  They can last more than 4 hours.
[16:36.000 --> 16:40.000]  Unfortunately, we cannot yet predict how many, at what addresses.
[16:40.000 --> 16:44.000]  The stubbornness of the Ukrainian governments is expensively bypassed by ordinary people.
[16:44.000 --> 16:57.000]  While President-terrorist Zelensky is recording another spiritual appeal, and his associates are discussing how to cut the billions promised by Europe, ordinary citizens are forced to adapt to medieval traditions in everyday life.
[16:57.000 --> 17:01.000]  I take a candle, an ordinary church one, for 3 hryvnias.
[17:01.000 --> 17:04.000]  On the bottom of the jar, glue it with superglue, nut.
[17:04.000 --> 17:06.000]  About an hour has passed.
[17:06.000 --> 17:08.000]  I will not lie to you.
[17:08.000 --> 17:10.000]  The water did not boil in the pan.
[17:10.000 --> 17:16.000]  We put our candles on the very bottom of the oven.
[17:16.000 --> 17:18.000]  Our lard has already gone.
[17:18.000 --> 17:20.000]  It melts well.
[17:20.000 --> 17:23.000]  So, Alexei Gennadievich, an effective way of forcing the world.
[17:23.000 --> 17:28.000]  Although this method is not yet used, what is called, for all one hundred percent.
[17:28.000 --> 17:30.000]  Ineffective cooking.
[17:30.000 --> 17:40.000]  Look, in fact, the most crucial thing that sounded yesterday, it was said, so to speak, 150 thousand times articulated, manifested.
[17:40.000 --> 17:42.000]  Balance of interests.
[17:42.000 --> 17:44.000]  This is what we are talking about.
[17:44.000 --> 17:46.000]  Balance of interests.
[17:46.000 --> 17:58.000]  Therefore, when we talk about strategic stability, when we talk about Russia, and Putin yesterday said, for which, so to speak, a special thanks to the president, that his rhetoric sounds much softer than our opponents on the other side.
[17:58.000 --> 18:00.000]  It was always so.
[18:00.000 --> 18:02.000]  This is very cool.
[18:02.000 --> 18:06.000]  And it seems to me that this should be measured by the dust of some experts.
[18:06.000 --> 18:08.000]  What does the president say when he talks about negotiations?
[18:08.000 --> 18:14.000]  From my point of view, that including Russia can make concessions.
[18:14.000 --> 18:16.000]  Not territorial concessions.
[18:16.000 --> 18:18.000]  Not territorial.
[18:18.000 --> 18:20.000]  Where do you hear this?
[18:20.000 --> 18:24.000]  I read this interpretation of negotiations and the balance of interests.
[18:24.000 --> 18:30.000]  Stability and the future world are in the balance of interests.
[18:30.000 --> 18:32.000]  And what is the balance?
[18:32.000 --> 18:34.000]  The balance is a compromise.
[18:34.000 --> 18:38.000]  When we, so to speak, go to some concessions in response to the fact that we are going to concessions.
[18:38.000 --> 18:40.000]  How can you imagine this compromise?
[18:40.000 --> 18:42.000]  Now Russia has a waiting position.
[18:42.000 --> 18:48.000]  Here, so to speak, is a cool image of this map of the four regions that are attached to Russia.
[18:48.000 --> 18:56.000]  These four regions are followed by the next four – Kharkiv, Krivorozhsk, Odessa and Nikolaevsk.
[18:56.000 --> 19:04.000]  So now we insist, we can say, or we force, or we declare about the negotiations.
[19:04.000 --> 19:12.000]  If there are no such negotiations, then this arc will be attached to these four regions.
[19:12.000 --> 19:14.000]  Then we will wait again.
[19:14.000 --> 19:16.000]  If we have the strength for this.
[19:16.000 --> 19:18.000]  We have the time for this.
[19:18.000 --> 19:20.000]  We have the time for this.
[19:20.000 --> 19:22.000]  And this is a matter of time, not strength in our case.
[19:22.000 --> 19:26.000]  But it is obvious that the difference between the army and the army is nothing.
[19:26.000 --> 19:30.000]  So we will finish it faster than the water boils in a pot.
[19:30.000 --> 19:32.000]  Look, now there are four.
[19:32.000 --> 19:34.000]  Let's make a deal.
[19:34.000 --> 19:36.000]  Do not want to make a deal.
[19:36.000 --> 19:38.000]  That's all. Then there are four more.
[19:38.000 --> 19:40.000]  And what do you think, do they want to make a deal or not?
[19:40.000 --> 19:42.000]  This is a difficult question, Andrey Vladimirovich.
[19:42.000 --> 19:44.000]  I think that there will be people and forces who are interested.
[19:44.000 --> 19:46.000]  I would really like them to want to make a deal.
[19:46.000 --> 19:52.000]  Because the inability to make a deal is the death of people.
[19:52.000 --> 19:54.000]  I understand.
[19:54.000 --> 19:56.000]  Alexander Nikolaevich has now waved his head in a negative way, that is, he is not ready.
[19:56.000 --> 20:00.000]  I know about the negotiations that there will be no answer from that side.
[20:00.000 --> 20:02.000]  No, but yesterday there was a key process.
[20:02.000 --> 20:04.000]  Wait, can I ask Alexander Nikolaevich something?
[20:04.000 --> 20:06.000]  Yes, please.
[20:06.000 --> 20:08.000]  Well, let's be careful.
[20:08.000 --> 20:16.000]  So far, there are no signs that someone is ready to make a deal with Russia today.
[20:16.000 --> 20:18.000]  No matter what it is.
[20:18.000 --> 20:20.000]  What about a bunch of intermediaries?
[20:20.000 --> 20:22.000]  A bunch of intermediaries.
[20:22.000 --> 20:24.000]  It remains a bunch of intermediaries, nothing more.
[20:24.000 --> 20:30.000]  The concessions for Ukraine are territorial.
[20:30.000 --> 20:34.000]  Ukraine is now recognized as Ukraine.
[20:34.000 --> 20:38.000]  Ukraine is recognized as impossible and unthinkable.
[20:38.000 --> 20:44.000]  If we take the thesis of Vladimir Vladimirovich that it is one nation,
[20:44.000 --> 20:50.000]  and one nation may not be in the national sense, because it is clear that the nations are different,
[20:50.000 --> 20:54.000]  but only in one sense, that it is a former Soviet nation,
[20:54.000 --> 21:04.000]  then in such a case, it makes no sense to expect from the population of Ukraine to surrender their positions to their government
[21:04.000 --> 21:08.000]  due to the fact that they are frying lard on a candle there.
[21:08.000 --> 21:12.000]  This is a former Soviet nation.
[21:12.000 --> 21:20.000]  This former Soviet nation, well, let's leave the geographical things aside, has survived the Leningrad blockade.
[21:20.000 --> 21:24.000]  They are filled with hatred. For them, this is a domestic war.
[21:24.000 --> 21:29.000]  So, you are not going to break us with such methods, nor are you going to break them. Am I right?
[21:29.000 --> 21:30.000]  No, we are not going to break them.
[21:30.000 --> 21:31.000]  I see.
[21:31.000 --> 21:33.000]  And the last thing.
[21:33.000 --> 21:39.000]  This morning I read the first reviews of the speech, the Western reviews.
[21:39.000 --> 21:42.000]  But the Western reviews are only one.
[21:42.000 --> 21:49.000]  The complete incompatibility of those principles and ideas that were expressed by Putin with the position of the West.
[21:49.000 --> 21:51.000]  Well, this is not quite right.
[21:51.000 --> 22:00.000]  The appeal to the conservative part of the Western world, well, first of all, is quite meaningless, and secondly, it will not make any sense.
[22:00.000 --> 22:04.000]  Well, you said that there are a lot of intermediaries left.
[22:04.000 --> 22:10.000]  Let's take a look at this story, because there are indeed more and more different countries,
[22:10.000 --> 22:13.000]  quite exotic from our point of view.
[22:13.000 --> 22:18.000]  Suddenly, their leaders show a desire to somehow contribute to the establishment of peace.
[22:18.000 --> 22:21.000]  And then, Alexei Valentinovich, you will comment on it.
[22:21.000 --> 22:23.000]  Please give us the material.
[22:23.000 --> 22:29.000]  Last Wednesday, President Gwenei Bissau, Umaru Sisoku Mbalo, arrived in Kiev.
[22:29.000 --> 22:35.000]  The leader of the African side is now the chairman of the Economic Community of Western Africa.
[22:35.000 --> 22:39.000]  A few days before that, he was in Moscow with Vladimir Putin.
[22:39.000 --> 22:47.000]  Mr. Sisoku said to Zelensky that he sees himself as a carrier of impulses to improve relations between Russia and Ukraine.
[22:47.000 --> 22:53.000]  Yesterday I was in Russia and met with President Putin, who asked me to give you a message, to talk to you.
[22:53.000 --> 22:57.000]  He told me that he was ready to negotiate with President Zelensky.
[22:57.000 --> 23:03.000]  However, the Kremlin later clarified that Putin did not convey any specific messages to Zelensky.
[23:03.000 --> 23:11.000]  The press secretary of the President, Dmitry Peskov, explained that the leader Gwenei Bissau simply expressed a desire to convey the position of Russia to Zelensky.
[23:11.000 --> 23:18.000]  President Putin informed his colleague about how the negotiations were conducted in March.
[23:18.000 --> 23:21.000]  How the Russian and Ukrainian negotiators worked.
[23:21.000 --> 23:24.000]  He said that the text was ready.
[23:24.000 --> 23:29.000]  In fact, a very, very complex balance was reached.
[23:29.000 --> 23:33.000]  And then, suddenly, the Ukrainian side left the radar.
[23:33.000 --> 23:38.000]  Other countries also sought to help in resolving the conflict in Ukraine.
[23:38.000 --> 23:42.000]  For example, Turkey has repeatedly offered intermediary services in this matter.
[23:42.000 --> 23:44.000]  Even earlier, Austria and Israel.
[23:44.000 --> 23:51.000]  This week, information appeared in the Russian press that the mediator between Russia and Ukraine is ready to become the holy throne.
[23:51.000 --> 23:57.000]  According to RIA Novosti, the Pope invites Zelensky and Putin to the Vatican for negotiations,
[23:57.000 --> 24:05.000]  and then for a large security conference in Europe with the participation of Russia, Ukraine, NATO and European states.
[24:05.000 --> 24:10.000]  Macron demonstrated that the Pope of Rome arranges Europe as a negotiator.
[24:10.000 --> 24:13.000]  Later it turned out that he is acceptable for the Russian side.
[24:13.000 --> 24:21.000]  The Pope of Rome is a unique character, neutral, with authority and is ready to spend time on reconciliation, to be a moderator.
[24:21.000 --> 24:27.000]  Now the main thing is not to troll, not to silence this idea, but to follow the invitation of Pope Francis.
[24:27.000 --> 24:35.000]  Various influential businessmen, American billionaires Bill Ackman and Elon Musk, offered their plans for political settlement.
[24:35.000 --> 24:40.000]  Their position is generally shared by former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
[24:40.000 --> 24:47.000]  Russia should return to the borders by February 24, but Ukraine could leave Crimea in peace.
[24:47.000 --> 24:54.000]  I'm talking about a ceasefire. Russia should not benefit from the war.
[24:54.000 --> 25:00.000]  Now Russia completely controls Donbass. Russia wants to consolidate. Russia got Crimea.
[25:00.000 --> 25:05.000]  In fact, Russia should let Ukraine go and leave them with what they have.
[25:05.000 --> 25:11.000]  This is their country. If they made such a decision, we should accept it.
[25:11.000 --> 25:15.000]  Well, in general, Bogdan, it still turns out a little strange.
[25:15.000 --> 25:23.000]  No one is ready for negotiations, but the number of those who want to become mediators is increasing.
[25:23.000 --> 25:29.000]  Maybe, of course, the respected president of Guinea-Bissau has some interests there, I don't know.
[25:29.000 --> 25:31.000]  But the Pope of Rome...
[25:31.000 --> 25:35.000]  The Pope of Rome is also the head of the state of the Vatican.
[25:35.000 --> 25:38.000]  Well, good. What is wrong with them all?
[25:38.000 --> 25:45.000]  They all want, in my opinion, just to increase their status, increase their resources at the expense of negotiations. That's all.
[25:45.000 --> 25:46.000]  From my point of view...
[25:46.000 --> 25:49.000]  And how does this increase their status?
[25:49.000 --> 25:53.000]  But if you are a mediator, you declare it, both sides depend on you.
[25:53.000 --> 25:57.000]  They don't become mediators. So far, there are no mediators.
[25:57.000 --> 25:59.000]  There are more people who want to become mediators.
[25:59.000 --> 26:03.000]  But each of them has a chance to become a mediator.
[26:03.000 --> 26:09.000]  The problem is that none of these mediators suits us, because all these mediators are not neutral.
[26:09.000 --> 26:13.000]  They are not representatives of, let's say, the third party.
[26:13.000 --> 26:22.000]  If I were a mediator, let's say, India or some other country, it might have been successful. Even Guinea-Bissau, probably.
[26:22.000 --> 26:24.000]  The mediator is needed to...
[26:24.000 --> 26:26.000]  Austria, Turkey, the Vatican.
[26:26.000 --> 26:27.000]  I'm confused?
[26:27.000 --> 26:28.000]  Of course.
[26:28.000 --> 26:29.000]  Why am I confused?
[26:29.000 --> 26:32.000]  We've been talking about negotiations for 20 minutes.
[26:32.000 --> 26:33.000]  What kind of negotiations?
[26:33.000 --> 26:37.000]  The main idea of yesterday's speech of Putin, the main, general idea.
[26:37.000 --> 26:39.000]  The West is fine.
[26:39.000 --> 26:40.000]  And what?
[26:40.000 --> 26:43.000]  Putin has been talking about the death of the Western hegemony for an hour.
[26:43.000 --> 26:45.000]  And this is an offer to negotiate?
[26:45.000 --> 26:47.000]  He said it eight times.
[26:47.000 --> 26:49.000]  He said it 20 times.
[26:49.000 --> 26:55.000]  First, the West is not the whole West.
[26:55.000 --> 27:00.000]  Secondly, besides not the whole West, there are other parts of the world.
[27:00.000 --> 27:02.000]  It's not very strange.
[27:02.000 --> 27:04.000]  What was it called yesterday?
[27:04.000 --> 27:05.000]  The West is everything.
[27:05.000 --> 27:07.000]  The world after hegemony.
[27:07.000 --> 27:08.000]  So what?
[27:08.000 --> 27:16.000]  Yesterday, Putin drew the outlines of another, the next world order, really more fair.
[27:16.000 --> 27:17.000]  In this world order...
[27:17.000 --> 27:18.000]  Why am I confused?
[27:18.000 --> 27:21.000]  He says that the countries of the West should get sovereignty.
[27:21.000 --> 27:23.000]  He says, then I can negotiate with him.
[27:23.000 --> 27:25.000]  I come to the negotiations and say, you know what?
[27:25.000 --> 27:28.000]  You had this apartment, you won't have it anymore.
[27:28.000 --> 27:29.000]  You will live far away.
[27:29.000 --> 27:30.000]  We are negotiating.
[27:30.000 --> 27:33.000]  There is sovereignty only in the United States of America.
[27:33.000 --> 27:34.000]  What did Putin tell you yesterday?
[27:34.000 --> 27:35.000]  What?
[27:35.000 --> 27:37.000]  There is sovereignty only in Washington.
[27:37.000 --> 27:41.000]  That's why he can negotiate with Washington.
[27:41.000 --> 27:43.000]  There is sovereignty not only in Washington.
[27:43.000 --> 27:44.000]  More precisely, he can negotiate.
[27:44.000 --> 27:47.000]  Not only in Washington there is sovereignty.
[27:47.000 --> 27:50.000]  Alexey Valerievich, please.
[27:50.000 --> 27:53.000]  Alexey Valerievich, I'm sorry.
[27:53.000 --> 27:57.000]  In fact, I don't understand at all what kind of fair world order we can talk about
[27:57.000 --> 28:05.000]  when we are engaged in the fact that we are actually destroying the power plants and the Ukrainian infrastructure.
[28:05.000 --> 28:07.000]  This man hasn't been here for a long time.
[28:07.000 --> 28:09.000]  He has accumulated in his soul.
[28:09.000 --> 28:13.000]  Now I will come and throw this shit on the collective farm.
[28:13.000 --> 28:15.000]  This is cruelty and sadism.
[28:15.000 --> 28:17.000]  This is a war against the civilian population.
[28:17.000 --> 28:25.000]  Alexey Valerievich, don't make me explain to you everything that has been said during your absence in our history.
[28:25.000 --> 28:26.000]  That is, the last three or four years.
[28:26.000 --> 28:27.000]  Yes, the last five years.
[28:27.000 --> 28:28.000]  Well, five years.
[28:28.000 --> 28:29.000]  Anyway, yes.
[28:29.000 --> 28:34.000]  As a citizen, you should understand that I was involved in this.
[28:34.000 --> 28:37.000]  I didn't allow to bomb the power plants.
[28:37.000 --> 28:38.000]  Well, that's it, let's disperse.
[28:38.000 --> 28:39.000]  Thank you.
[28:39.000 --> 28:40.000]  I didn't allow it anymore.
[28:40.000 --> 28:41.000]  That's it.
[28:41.000 --> 28:42.000]  Let's disperse.
[28:42.000 --> 28:43.000]  This is a thing that...
[28:43.000 --> 28:44.000]  I don't even know what to say.
[28:44.000 --> 28:50.000]  Alexey Valerievich, let's pretend that we have listened to your manifesto to the end.
[28:50.000 --> 28:51.000]  Is there anything to say in fact?
[28:51.000 --> 28:52.000]  In fact, there is.
[28:52.000 --> 28:53.000]  Well, tell me.
[28:53.000 --> 28:54.000]  That's why.
[28:54.000 --> 28:56.000]  That is, when we are engaged in this...
[28:56.000 --> 28:57.000]  Yes, of course.
[28:57.000 --> 28:58.000]  The attitude towards us is absolutely clear.
[28:58.000 --> 28:59.000]  Iosif Evgenievich, yes.
[28:59.000 --> 29:00.000]  Thank you.
[29:00.000 --> 29:01.000]  Iosif Evgenievich, yes.
[29:01.000 --> 29:02.000]  I got confused.
[29:02.000 --> 29:04.000]  He taught me to separate a fly from a cauldron.
[29:04.000 --> 29:05.000]  Well.
[29:05.000 --> 29:06.000]  Well, this...
[29:06.000 --> 29:07.000]  Andrey, what is the first question?
[29:07.000 --> 29:08.000]  Yes, the first.
[29:08.000 --> 29:11.000]  He talked about the fact that the domination of the West is coming to an end.
[29:11.000 --> 29:12.000]  Yes.
[29:12.000 --> 29:13.000]  But the West itself does not disappear.
[29:13.000 --> 29:15.000]  It does not disappear from the map of the world.
[29:15.000 --> 29:16.000]  This is the first.
[29:16.000 --> 29:17.000]  The second.
[29:17.000 --> 29:24.000]  He said that the basis for negotiations is national sovereignty, the balance of interests.
[29:24.000 --> 29:37.000]  And he addressed those who are ready to defend the national state interests of the countries of Europe, Latin America, Asia, Africa, and so on.
[29:37.000 --> 29:40.000]  Reformatting the space.
[29:40.000 --> 29:44.000]  And in this case, of course, there are negotiations.
[29:44.000 --> 29:49.000]  Moreover, he understands that he says, we are open to negotiations.
[29:49.000 --> 29:52.000]  But the United States called for negotiations.
[29:52.000 --> 29:53.000]  Exactly.
[29:53.000 --> 29:57.000]  And he clearly understands where the key to this whole story is.
[29:57.000 --> 30:00.000]  So, let's, Bogdan Antonovich, we didn't let you say it in a good way.
[30:00.000 --> 30:01.000]  It's easier.
[30:01.000 --> 30:05.000]  Negotiations are possible, but they are only possible on the basis of military success.
[30:05.000 --> 30:06.000]  Here I agree with you.
[30:06.000 --> 30:07.000]  So.
[30:07.000 --> 30:14.000]  Military success is only possible after an even greater destruction of infrastructure, in particular, railways, logistics, fuel trucks, and so on.
[30:14.000 --> 30:15.000]  And the third.
[30:15.000 --> 30:16.000]  In my opinion, the main...
[30:16.000 --> 30:18.000]  There will be no military success.
[30:18.000 --> 30:19.000]  The main...
[30:19.000 --> 30:20.000]  I'm sorry.
[30:20.000 --> 30:23.000]  I'm amazed how many Smerdyakovs are on the other side.
[30:23.000 --> 30:24.000]  You are not an expert.
[30:24.000 --> 30:25.000]  You are Smerdyakov.
[30:25.000 --> 30:26.000]  You are an embodied Smerdyakov.
[30:26.000 --> 30:27.000]  Here he got out.
[30:27.000 --> 30:28.000]  That's how he starts.
[30:28.000 --> 30:29.000]  Yes, of course.
[30:29.000 --> 30:30.000]  Dostoevsky is a genius.
[30:30.000 --> 30:31.000]  And he will be successful.
[30:31.000 --> 30:32.000]  So, too.
[30:32.000 --> 30:35.000]  Mr. Alexey, we understood that you really want to return to the TV screen.
[30:35.000 --> 30:40.000]  But I'm afraid that you decided not to go through that wing.
[30:40.000 --> 30:41.000]  So.
[30:41.000 --> 30:42.000]  And?
[30:42.000 --> 30:45.000]  Now what you are saying is no longer interesting to anyone.
[30:45.000 --> 30:47.000]  A long time ago, everything was said and forgotten.
[30:47.000 --> 30:50.000]  The main thing is that now there is a diversification.
[30:50.000 --> 30:51.000]  The world is shifting.
[30:51.000 --> 30:53.000]  This address was not to the West.
[30:53.000 --> 30:55.000]  To the West, if you want, please, yes, we are ready.
[30:55.000 --> 30:57.000]  But we have something to answer.
[30:57.000 --> 31:00.000]  This is an appeal to Asia, Africa, to the rest of the world.
[31:00.000 --> 31:02.000]  That's what I think.
[31:02.000 --> 31:08.000]  There is a part of the West that defends the national interests of its countries.
[31:08.000 --> 31:10.000]  England, who else is there, and so on.
[31:10.000 --> 31:11.000]  The state of the marginals.
[31:11.000 --> 31:12.000]  So, quiet, quiet.
[31:12.000 --> 31:13.000]  People are the most important thing there.
[31:13.000 --> 31:15.000]  You started to say, as you just read, that...
[31:15.000 --> 31:21.000]  I read that this is not an appeal to us, but an appeal to the leaders of states.
[31:21.000 --> 31:23.000]  It's just that Bogdanovich divided.
[31:23.000 --> 31:25.000]  There is the West, and there are the rest.
[31:25.000 --> 31:26.000]  This is history.
[31:26.000 --> 31:27.000]  How many minutes do we have?
[31:27.000 --> 31:29.000]  Actually, it has historical roots.
[31:29.000 --> 31:32.000]  When Ivan the Terrible made an agreement with the Queen of Great Britain.
[31:32.000 --> 31:34.000]  The Queen of Great Britain came later.
[31:34.000 --> 31:36.000]  They made an agreement.
[31:36.000 --> 31:38.000]  And there the parliament forbade her from doing anything.
[31:38.000 --> 31:40.000]  He says, are you the queen or who?
[31:40.000 --> 31:41.000]  I made an agreement with you.
[31:41.000 --> 31:43.000]  Well, we made an agreement with you.
[31:43.000 --> 31:45.000]  And you say, to hell with the mother of the parliament.
[31:45.000 --> 31:47.000]  And you are a vulgar girl.
[31:47.000 --> 31:49.000]  And now it's exactly the same story.
[31:49.000 --> 31:52.000]  And yesterday the president literally said this word by word.
[31:52.000 --> 31:57.000]  But I make an agreement, and they go out, call Washington, so to speak, and everything changes.
[31:57.000 --> 31:59.000]  How can I make an agreement with them?
[31:59.000 --> 32:10.000]  So, the fact is that now there is an attempt, even in Washington, to make an agreement not with the one who greets there, but with some other people.
[32:10.000 --> 32:11.000]  I don't know who.
[32:11.000 --> 32:13.000]  Joseph Yevgenyevich probably knows them.
[32:13.000 --> 32:15.000]  Maybe it's true that something happened after the 8th of November.
[32:15.000 --> 32:19.000]  And lately the situation has changed a lot.
[32:19.000 --> 32:20.000]  Why?
[32:20.000 --> 32:21.000]  Because...
[32:21.000 --> 32:22.000]  Changed in what way?
[32:22.000 --> 32:23.000]  In a good way, yes.
[32:23.000 --> 32:25.000]  The situation has changed a lot.
[32:25.000 --> 32:33.000]  Because it became clear, the conclusion of the British intelligence and the CIA, that the front is on the verge of collapse.
[32:33.000 --> 32:34.000]  And a million shells.
[32:34.000 --> 32:35.000]  Yes.
[32:35.000 --> 32:36.000]  Andrey.
[32:36.000 --> 32:38.000]  The front is on the verge of collapse.
[32:38.000 --> 32:48.000]  And we urgently need to make an agreement, because in case of a winter collapse of the front in Ukraine, we will have to make an agreement, as my colleague said,
[32:48.000 --> 32:54.000]  plus 4-5 more subjects, sorry, 5 regions of Ukraine.
[32:54.000 --> 32:55.000]  Let's take a break.
[32:55.000 --> 32:56.000]  That's it, Igor Yevgenyevich.
[32:56.000 --> 32:57.000]  And such a fuss.
[32:57.000 --> 32:59.000]  We went over the time a little bit.
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[36:02.000 --> 36:05.000]  The Imperial Coin Court presents
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[37:49.000 --> 37:51.000]  Iosif Evgenievich, we are already on the air.
[37:51.000 --> 37:52.000]  We have been on the air for a long time.
[37:52.000 --> 37:54.000]  Take a seat, please.
[37:54.000 --> 37:57.000]  This is the meeting place.
[37:57.000 --> 37:59.000]  The place where everything becomes clear.
[37:59.000 --> 38:01.000]  We continue.
[38:01.000 --> 38:03.000]  Viktor Josephovich, you promised to give your word.
[38:03.000 --> 38:05.000]  Let's just show the plot now.
[38:05.000 --> 38:08.000]  In a sense, this is just a story
[38:08.000 --> 38:12.000]  about the response that Ukraine has.
[38:12.000 --> 38:15.000]  It is clear that they are not going to prepare
[38:15.000 --> 38:17.000]  for any negotiations.
[38:17.000 --> 38:18.000]  They have everything they have.
[38:18.000 --> 38:20.000]  This is yet another attempt
[38:20.000 --> 38:26.380]  to
[38:26.380 --> 38:28.000]  trample everything that is somehow related to Russia,
[38:28.000 --> 38:30.000]  in Russian, as it is not strange.
[38:30.000 --> 38:32.000]  It seems that they have been doing all this for a long time,
[38:32.000 --> 38:34.000]  but today they are not finishing it completely.
[38:34.000 --> 38:35.000]  Be kind.
[38:35.000 --> 38:37.000]  The head of the forbidden in Russia
[38:37.000 --> 38:39.000]  Majlis of the Crimean Tatar people,
[38:39.000 --> 38:41.000]  Refat Chubarov, this week threatened
[38:41.000 --> 38:43.000]  not only to take Crimea from Russia,
[38:43.000 --> 38:45.000]  but also to deport all Russians
[38:45.000 --> 38:48.000]  who arrived there after 2014.
[38:48.000 --> 38:50.000]  The issue of decolonization,
[38:50.000 --> 38:52.000]  like the physical deportation of people
[38:52.000 --> 38:54.000]  who resided against the laws of Ukraine,
[38:54.000 --> 38:56.000]  is a special condition and guarantee
[38:56.000 --> 38:58.000]  for the resumption of the state sovereignty
[38:58.000 --> 39:00.000]  of Ukraine over the Crimean Peninsula.
[39:00.000 --> 39:02.000]  Last week, the Secretary of the National Security Council
[39:02.000 --> 39:04.000]  of Ukraine Alexei Danilov
[39:04.000 --> 39:06.000]  declared war on the Russian language.
[39:06.000 --> 39:09.000]  He demands to erase it from the memory of Ukrainians.
[39:09.000 --> 39:11.000]  And instead of Russian,
[39:11.000 --> 39:14.000]  it is criminal to teach everyone the language of democracy,
[39:14.000 --> 39:16.000]  that is, English.
[39:16.000 --> 39:19.000]  English should disappear from our territory in general,
[39:19.000 --> 39:21.000]  as an element of hostile propaganda
[39:21.000 --> 39:23.000]  and brainwashing for our population.
[39:23.000 --> 39:25.000]  English is a must,
[39:25.000 --> 39:27.000]  our native language is a must.
[39:27.000 --> 39:29.000]  And it is very dangerous to plant
[39:29.000 --> 39:31.000]  these Russian narratives here.
[39:31.000 --> 39:34.000]  Repression for speaking Russian has already begun.
[39:34.000 --> 39:36.000]  On the days of violation of the law
[39:36.000 --> 39:38.000]  on the state language,
[39:38.000 --> 39:40.000]  for the first time a professor
[39:40.000 --> 39:42.000]  of the National Aviation University of Ukraine
[39:42.000 --> 39:44.000]  was fined.
[39:44.000 --> 39:46.000]  As if the teacher was speaking
[39:46.000 --> 39:48.000]  in an hostile language.
[39:48.000 --> 39:50.000]  The fines are written for public performance
[39:50.000 --> 39:52.000]  or listening to Russian songs.
[39:52.000 --> 39:54.000]  They are illegal in Ukraine.
[39:54.000 --> 39:56.000]  Russian-speaking Ukrainians
[39:56.000 --> 39:58.000]  feel oppressed.
[39:58.000 --> 40:00.000]  With all due respect
[40:00.000 --> 40:02.000]  to my acquaintances,
[40:02.000 --> 40:04.000]  I do not understand
[40:04.000 --> 40:06.000]  why I have to give
[40:06.000 --> 40:08.000]  my Russian language
[40:08.000 --> 40:10.000]  to some aggressor.
[40:10.000 --> 40:12.000]  Yes, I am almost the only one in this.
[40:12.000 --> 40:14.000]  Everyone completely hates
[40:14.000 --> 40:16.000]  everything Russian,
[40:16.000 --> 40:18.000]  including Ukrainians
[40:18.000 --> 40:20.000]  who have a Russian passport.
[40:20.000 --> 40:22.000]  I am incredibly upset,
[40:22.000 --> 40:24.000]  I sometimes cry
[40:24.000 --> 40:26.000]  from this madness
[40:26.000 --> 40:28.000]  or idiocy, if you can put it that way.
[40:28.000 --> 40:30.000]  The ban of the Russian language
[40:30.000 --> 40:32.000]  in Ukraine seemed an exaggeration
[40:32.000 --> 40:34.000]  even for such a fierce
[40:34.000 --> 40:36.000]  Russophobe and, in combination with
[40:36.000 --> 40:38.000]  a foreign agent-propagandist
[40:38.000 --> 40:40.000]  as Dmitry Gordon.
[40:40.000 --> 40:42.000]  The Russian language
[40:42.000 --> 40:44.000]  is not privatized.
[40:44.000 --> 40:46.000]  It is an excess
[40:46.000 --> 40:48.000]  of the world culture.
[40:48.000 --> 40:50.000]  The Russian language is an excess
[40:50.000 --> 40:52.000]  of the world culture.
[40:52.000 --> 40:54.000]  And the fact that Putin speaks it
[40:54.000 --> 40:56.000]  does not mean that it is
[40:56.000 --> 40:58.000]  some kind of bad language.
[40:58.000 --> 41:00.000]  Some kind of bad language.
[41:00.000 --> 41:02.000]  Sorry, I did not hold back.
[41:02.000 --> 41:04.000]  And the Crimean platform...
[41:04.000 --> 41:06.000]  Wait, Alexander Ilyich,
[41:06.000 --> 41:08.000]  that's it.
[41:08.000 --> 41:10.000]  Do we need to make
[41:10.000 --> 41:12.000]  a special conclusion
[41:12.000 --> 41:14.000]  from this new surge
[41:14.000 --> 41:16.000]  of the fight against the Russian language?
[41:16.000 --> 41:18.000]  This is just a continuation of what happened
[41:18.000 --> 41:20.000]  in Ukraine for 8 years and before that too.
[41:20.000 --> 41:22.000]  And, in fact, this will continue
[41:22.000 --> 41:24.000]  as long as the power
[41:24.000 --> 41:26.000]  that is now in Kiev
[41:26.000 --> 41:28.000]  will be
[41:28.000 --> 41:30.000]  controlled by the United States.
[41:30.000 --> 41:32.000]  Now, as for the changes.
[41:32.000 --> 41:34.000]  Indeed, there are changes, I agree.
[41:34.000 --> 41:36.000]  We have come a long way.
[41:36.000 --> 41:38.000]  For two years,
[41:38.000 --> 41:40.000]  we have come a long way
[41:40.000 --> 41:42.000]  from the criticism of the BLM
[41:42.000 --> 41:44.000]  to the fact that the president
[41:44.000 --> 41:46.000]  of Guinea-Bissau
[41:46.000 --> 41:48.000]  acts as a mediator
[41:48.000 --> 41:50.000]  between Russia and Ukraine.
[41:50.000 --> 41:52.000]  What is the connection?
[41:52.000 --> 41:54.000]  The connection is that in 1999
[41:54.000 --> 41:56.000]  there was a very good performance
[41:56.000 --> 41:58.000]  of Putin.
[41:58.000 --> 42:00.000]  Remember, when he was still the Prime Minister,
[42:00.000 --> 42:02.000]  he was not yet the president.
[42:02.000 --> 42:04.000]  And he went to Dagestan.
[42:04.000 --> 42:06.000]  And Putin came
[42:06.000 --> 42:08.000]  and he met with the representatives
[42:08.000 --> 42:10.000]  of the Dagestan resistance
[42:10.000 --> 42:12.000]  and the Russian military
[42:12.000 --> 42:14.000]  who were preparing the reflection
[42:14.000 --> 42:16.000]  of this agression by Chechnya.
[42:16.000 --> 42:18.000]  And he raised a toast.
[42:18.000 --> 42:20.000]  It was a very good toast
[42:20.000 --> 42:22.000]  for the victims and the wounded
[42:22.000 --> 42:24.000]  who were there at that time.
[42:24.000 --> 42:26.000]  But when the time came to drink,
[42:26.000 --> 42:28.000]  he said that there are
[42:28.000 --> 42:30.000]  very serious tasks
[42:30.000 --> 42:32.000]  that stand before the Russian armed forces.
[42:32.000 --> 42:34.000]  And we know that there will be provocations.
[42:34.000 --> 42:36.000]  And what our opponents are preparing
[42:36.000 --> 42:38.000]  is also known to us.
[42:38.000 --> 42:40.000]  And then he said,
[42:40.000 --> 42:42.000]  and we will drink it
[42:42.000 --> 42:44.000]  when these tasks are solved.
[42:44.000 --> 42:46.000]  Quiet, quiet, quiet.
[42:46.000 --> 42:48.000]  Wait, I'm a little lost.
[42:48.000 --> 42:50.000]  There are still a lot of difficulties.
[42:50.000 --> 42:52.000]  We learned about this episode
[42:52.000 --> 42:54.000]  after 15 years.
[42:54.000 --> 42:56.000]  But there is even a video.
[42:56.000 --> 42:58.000]  I do not argue.
[42:58.000 --> 43:00.000]  This is a very strong point
[43:00.000 --> 43:02.000]  that was not known
[43:02.000 --> 43:04.000]  to the general public for 15 years.
[43:04.000 --> 43:06.000]  Why did I remember this now?
[43:06.000 --> 43:08.000]  Because it is important
[43:08.000 --> 43:10.000]  to wait
[43:10.000 --> 43:12.000]  before they say
[43:12.000 --> 43:14.000]  that the world order has been changed,
[43:14.000 --> 43:16.000]  that we are somewhere
[43:16.000 --> 43:18.000]  in the process of creating a new world,
[43:18.000 --> 43:20.000]  that everything has already changed
[43:20.000 --> 43:22.000]  in our side.
[43:22.000 --> 43:24.000]  Yes, indeed, the Russian president
[43:24.000 --> 43:26.000]  set very ambitious tasks
[43:26.000 --> 43:28.000]  before the Russian armed forces,
[43:28.000 --> 43:30.000]  before the Russian society.
[43:30.000 --> 43:32.000]  But to celebrate the victory
[43:32.000 --> 43:34.000]  or to say that everything has changed?
[43:34.000 --> 43:36.000]  Nobody celebrates the victory.
[43:36.000 --> 43:38.000]  You agreed with Yevgeny
[43:38.000 --> 43:40.000]  that there were really changes.
[43:40.000 --> 43:42.000]  Changes?
[43:42.000 --> 43:44.000]  Then, for some reason,
[43:44.000 --> 43:46.000]  you threw the president of Guinea-Bissau
[43:46.000 --> 43:48.000]  and Belarus here.
[43:48.000 --> 43:50.000]  Because on October 28, 2022,
[43:50.000 --> 43:52.000]  these changes are not in the interest of Russia.
[43:52.000 --> 43:54.000]  And God forbid
[43:54.000 --> 43:56.000]  that they are in the interest of Russia.
[43:56.000 --> 43:58.000]  Then we will go for it.
[43:58.000 --> 44:00.000]  When we win,
[44:00.000 --> 44:02.000]  I do not understand what time it is.
[44:02.000 --> 44:04.000]  Excuse me,
[44:04.000 --> 44:06.000]  how is it not in the interest of Russia?
[44:06.000 --> 44:08.000]  We are not finished yet.
[44:08.000 --> 44:10.000]  Wait, Victor,
[44:10.000 --> 44:12.000]  you have already given me the floor.
[44:12.000 --> 44:14.000]  Two months ago,
[44:14.000 --> 44:16.000]  they said that there should be a victory
[44:16.000 --> 44:18.000]  in the fields of war.
[44:18.000 --> 44:20.000]  Today, they say,
[44:20.000 --> 44:22.000]  immediately to the world.
[44:22.000 --> 44:24.000]  These are not changes
[44:24.000 --> 44:26.000]  in the interest of Russia.
[44:26.000 --> 44:28.000]  These are changes in the interest of Europe.
[44:28.000 --> 44:30.000]  And responsible people in the West.
[44:30.000 --> 44:32.000]  And responsible people in Asia.
[44:32.000 --> 44:34.000]  How are these not changes?
[44:34.000 --> 44:36.000]  Excuse me,
[44:36.000 --> 44:38.000]  everyone, including
[44:38.000 --> 44:40.000]  responsible people
[44:40.000 --> 44:42.000]  in the United States, says,
[44:42.000 --> 44:44.000]  let's start negotiations quickly.
[44:44.000 --> 44:46.000]  While the
[44:46.000 --> 44:48.000]  main negotiator of Europe
[44:48.000 --> 44:50.000]  said,
[44:50.000 --> 44:52.000]  victory in the battlefield.
[44:52.000 --> 44:54.000]  Today, he says,
[44:54.000 --> 44:56.000]  the diplomat should speak.
[44:56.000 --> 44:58.000]  No, no, no, no.
[44:58.000 --> 45:00.000]  And someone more responsible
[45:00.000 --> 45:02.000]  than the old fascist Joseph Barych,
[45:02.000 --> 45:04.000]  who considers himself the head
[45:04.000 --> 45:06.000]  of the European diplomacy,
[45:06.000 --> 45:08.000]  is open from the politicians
[45:08.000 --> 45:10.000]  who act,
[45:10.000 --> 45:12.000]  who have the powers and the right
[45:12.000 --> 45:14.000]  to sign and make decisions.
[45:14.000 --> 45:16.000]  Did anyone talk about the need to negotiate?
[45:16.000 --> 45:18.000]  I do not remember.
[45:18.000 --> 45:20.000]  Even if we do not consider
[45:20.000 --> 45:22.000]  him a responsible politician,
[45:22.000 --> 45:24.000]  then he,
[45:24.000 --> 45:26.000]  with the admission,
[45:26.000 --> 45:28.000]  I am
[45:28.000 --> 45:30.000]  exactly hinting at this,
[45:30.000 --> 45:32.000]  then he was already talking about it.
[45:32.000 --> 45:34.000]  Excuse me,
[45:34.000 --> 45:36.000]  but Schultz says
[45:36.000 --> 45:38.000]  that we will help
[45:38.000 --> 45:40.000]  Ukraine as much as necessary,
[45:40.000 --> 45:42.000]  but the issue
[45:42.000 --> 45:44.000]  must be resolved at the negotiating table.
[45:44.000 --> 45:46.000]  I read about something else.
[45:46.000 --> 45:48.000]  I read about something else,
[45:48.000 --> 45:50.000]  we met with Macron,
[45:50.000 --> 45:52.000]  it was 7-8 days ago,
[45:52.000 --> 45:54.000]  and did not go to a joint press conference,
[45:54.000 --> 45:56.000]  after which Macron said
[45:56.000 --> 45:58.000]  what you are talking about,
[45:58.000 --> 46:00.000]  about some diplomacy in Ukraine,
[46:00.000 --> 46:02.000]  and Schultz, on the contrary,
[46:02.000 --> 46:04.000]  began to tell us what sanctions mean.
[46:04.000 --> 46:06.000]  And again, this is a question
[46:06.000 --> 46:08.000]  of how this meeting is formed,
[46:08.000 --> 46:10.000]  about how the anti-American Europe is formed.
[46:10.000 --> 46:12.000]  When they, in response to the law
[46:12.000 --> 46:14.000]  on the reduction of inflation,
[46:14.000 --> 46:16.000]  threatened
[46:16.000 --> 46:18.000]  Europe with an economic war.
[46:18.000 --> 46:20.000]  Excuse me,
[46:20.000 --> 46:22.000]  right there, in the open,
[46:22.000 --> 46:24.000]  the US legislators
[46:24.000 --> 46:26.000]  declared an economic war on Europe.
[46:26.000 --> 46:28.000]  By the way, in violation of the existing norms,
[46:28.000 --> 46:30.000]  excuse me,
[46:30.000 --> 46:32.000]  international law.
[46:32.000 --> 46:34.000]  Putin is talking about the fact
[46:34.000 --> 46:36.000]  that there are no norms and rules for a long time,
[46:36.000 --> 46:38.000]  nothing works.
[46:38.000 --> 46:40.000]  Tell the president,
[46:40.000 --> 46:42.000]  who just yesterday said
[46:42.000 --> 46:44.000]  that there is international law,
[46:44.000 --> 46:46.000]  he violates it,
[46:46.000 --> 46:48.000]  and we force him.
[46:48.000 --> 46:50.000]  This is exactly what
[46:50.000 --> 46:52.000]  Alexei Gennadievich was paying attention to.
[46:52.000 --> 46:54.000]  We can say here,
[46:54.000 --> 46:56.000]  forget about international law,
[46:56.000 --> 46:58.000]  it has long been destroyed.
[46:58.000 --> 47:00.000]  And the president, as a person,
[47:00.000 --> 47:02.000]  is much more sensible,
[47:02.000 --> 47:04.000]  he says, no, it exists.
[47:04.000 --> 47:06.000]  Right, Alexei Gennadievich?
[47:06.000 --> 47:08.000]  And he said how to support him.
[47:08.000 --> 47:10.000]  There are no alternatives,
[47:10.000 --> 47:12.000]  in fact,
[47:12.000 --> 47:14.000]  he has been asked many times
[47:14.000 --> 47:16.000]  by foreign delegates,
[47:16.000 --> 47:18.000]  what platform can become,
[47:18.000 --> 47:20.000]  what do you see and so on.
[47:20.000 --> 47:22.000]  The UN.
[47:22.000 --> 47:24.000]  Yes, there is the UN.
[47:24.000 --> 47:26.000]  Then, if we develop something,
[47:26.000 --> 47:28.000]  we can consider it and so on.
[47:28.000 --> 47:30.000]  In fact, this is a very important thing.
[47:30.000 --> 47:32.000]  And what politicians say.
[47:32.000 --> 47:34.000]  I tried to find,
[47:34.000 --> 47:36.000]  I forgot the name of one of them,
[47:36.000 --> 47:38.000]  but it was in the Western press,
[47:38.000 --> 47:40.000]  a very interesting topic.
[47:40.000 --> 47:42.000]  I told Vesmakronov,
[47:42.000 --> 47:44.000]  that we, the West,
[47:44.000 --> 47:46.000]  must negotiate with Putin
[47:46.000 --> 47:48.000]  about the peace without Ukraine.
[47:48.000 --> 47:50.000]  Without Ukraine.
[47:50.000 --> 47:52.000]  Because it concerns us.
[47:52.000 --> 47:54.000]  We know that Ukraine has its own
[47:54.000 --> 47:56.000]  ideas and so on.
[47:56.000 --> 47:58.000]  But we need it.
[47:58.000 --> 48:00.000]  It was not the first echelon of politics.
[48:00.000 --> 48:02.000]  It was not the first echelon.
[48:02.000 --> 48:04.000]  But in any case,
[48:04.000 --> 48:06.000]  it was published in the Western media.
[48:06.000 --> 48:08.000]  This is a throw-in.
[48:08.000 --> 48:10.000]  We need to support such an initiative.
[48:10.000 --> 48:12.000]  And, of course,
[48:12.000 --> 48:14.000]  interested in negotiating.
[48:14.000 --> 48:16.000]  Ukraine can want anything
[48:16.000 --> 48:18.000]  in Zelensky's face.
[48:18.000 --> 48:20.000]  But it is obvious that in the current situation
[48:20.000 --> 48:22.000]  we say, why, why, why?
[48:22.000 --> 48:24.000]  Because the world is falling into a catastrophe.
[48:24.000 --> 48:26.000]  And these people,
[48:26.000 --> 48:28.000]  of course, everyone pursues,
[48:28.000 --> 48:30.000]  and Pope Roman, Elon Musk,
[48:30.000 --> 48:32.000]  pursues their own interests.
[48:32.000 --> 48:34.000]  But in any case,
[48:34.000 --> 48:36.000]  this is peacemaking for the sake of peace.
[48:36.000 --> 48:38.000]  After the victory.
[48:38.000 --> 48:40.000]  So, Alexander Nikolaevich,
[48:40.000 --> 48:42.000]  now these romantic things will be blown away.
[48:42.000 --> 48:44.000]  Why do you give me my surname?
[48:44.000 --> 48:46.000]  Your surname?
[48:46.000 --> 48:48.000]  Well, sometimes you say something like that.
[48:48.000 --> 48:50.000]  I always said that Putin is a lawmaker.
[48:50.000 --> 48:52.000]  I'm not talking about that.
[48:52.000 --> 48:54.000]  I'm talking about the fact that the international law
[48:54.000 --> 48:56.000]  is more peaceful and sensible than you.
[48:56.000 --> 48:58.000]  It's not about the world of love.
[48:58.000 --> 49:00.000]  It's about the attitude to international law.
[49:00.000 --> 49:02.000]  Very good.
[49:02.000 --> 49:04.000]  Alexander Nikolaevich,
[49:04.000 --> 49:06.000]  of course, it is clear that the world is better than war.
[49:06.000 --> 49:08.000]  And it is clear that Ukraine's whims,
[49:08.000 --> 49:10.000]  if such whims
[49:10.000 --> 49:12.000]  did not lead to the restoration
[49:12.000 --> 49:14.000]  of territorial integrity,
[49:14.000 --> 49:16.000]  could be ignored.
[49:16.000 --> 49:18.000]  But the problem is
[49:18.000 --> 49:20.000]  that the international law
[49:20.000 --> 49:22.000]  has been violated.
[49:22.000 --> 49:24.000]  And the territorial integrity
[49:24.000 --> 49:26.000]  of a sovereign state has been violated.
[49:26.000 --> 49:28.000]  It doesn't matter the degree of sovereignty.
[49:28.000 --> 49:30.000]  It depends on the United States.
[49:30.000 --> 49:32.000]  It depends on the United States.
[49:32.000 --> 49:34.000]  It was on February 24th.
[49:34.000 --> 49:36.000]  And these borders,
[49:36.000 --> 49:38.000]  and this violation
[49:38.000 --> 49:40.000]  of the borders of a sovereign state,
[49:40.000 --> 49:42.000]  were not Russian borders.
[49:42.000 --> 49:44.000]  That's all.
[49:44.000 --> 49:46.000]  The only thing you could
[49:46.000 --> 49:48.000]  probably focus on
[49:48.000 --> 49:50.000]  is...
[49:50.000 --> 49:52.000]  Any international law will find
[49:52.000 --> 49:54.000]  another international law,
[49:54.000 --> 49:56.000]  Alexei Gennadievich told you.
[49:56.000 --> 49:58.000]  The right of the people to self-determination.
[49:58.000 --> 50:00.000]  Because the Minsk agreements
[50:00.000 --> 50:02.000]  have been dead for a long time.
[50:02.000 --> 50:04.000]  Wait a second.
[50:04.000 --> 50:06.000]  Nobody canceled the resolution
[50:06.000 --> 50:08.000]  of the Soviet Union.
[50:08.000 --> 50:10.000]  The Minsk agreements
[50:10.000 --> 50:12.000]  have been dead for a long time.
[50:12.000 --> 50:14.000]  They died with the change of power in Ukraine.
[50:14.000 --> 50:16.000]  They died with military actions
[50:16.000 --> 50:18.000]  in Donbass and so on.
[50:18.000 --> 50:20.000]  There are no Minsk agreements.
[50:20.000 --> 50:22.000]  Who violated the international law?
[50:22.000 --> 50:24.000]  Ukraine.
[50:24.000 --> 50:26.000]  And it received sanctions
[50:26.000 --> 50:28.000]  in accordance with international law.
[50:28.000 --> 50:30.000]  And now it turns out
[50:30.000 --> 50:32.000]  that any...
[50:32.000 --> 50:34.000]  Shut up!
[50:34.000 --> 50:36.000]  Shut up!
[50:36.000 --> 50:38.000]  He can also remember his mother.
[50:38.000 --> 50:40.000]  I was a witness.
[50:40.000 --> 50:42.000]  If necessary.
[50:42.000 --> 50:44.000]  Don't confuse me.
[50:44.000 --> 50:46.000]  The question is
[50:46.000 --> 50:48.000]  how to get out of this.
[50:48.000 --> 50:50.000]  The only thing
[50:50.000 --> 50:52.000]  I heard today
[50:52.000 --> 50:54.000]  that is more or less reasonable
[50:54.000 --> 50:56.000]  is the position of Kissinger.
[50:56.000 --> 50:58.000]  As it was
[50:58.000 --> 51:00.000]  until February 24.
[51:00.000 --> 51:02.000]  But the problem is
[51:02.000 --> 51:04.000]  that no one can sign anything
[51:04.000 --> 51:06.000]  and no one can agree on anything.
[51:06.000 --> 51:08.000]  You can open the North Stream.
[51:08.000 --> 51:10.000]  You can start supplying gas to Europe.
[51:10.000 --> 51:12.000]  And I, by the way, both hands for this.
[51:12.000 --> 51:14.000]  Because I am convinced
[51:14.000 --> 51:16.000]  that this does not affect the conflict in any way.
[51:16.000 --> 51:18.000]  But to say that any
[51:18.000 --> 51:20.000]  unions, including NATO,
[51:20.000 --> 51:22.000]  the European Union and so on,
[51:22.000 --> 51:24.000]  there is a violation of sovereignty
[51:24.000 --> 51:26.000]  of the states that enter this union.
[51:26.000 --> 51:28.000]  But from my point of view, it's just absurd.
[51:28.000 --> 51:30.000]  So, let's...
[51:30.000 --> 51:32.000]  I really like, of course,
[51:32.000 --> 51:34.000]  the way you speak,
[51:34.000 --> 51:36.000]  which are combined with the memories of your mother.
[51:36.000 --> 51:38.000]  Well.
[51:38.000 --> 51:40.000]  He is shouting and shouting.
[51:40.000 --> 51:42.000]  I'm tired of it.
[51:42.000 --> 51:44.000]  Oh, Alexander Nikolayevich.
[51:44.000 --> 51:46.000]  Yes, there is hysteria in the West.
[51:46.000 --> 51:48.000]  But there is no hysteria in the West
[51:48.000 --> 51:50.000]  because Russia won.
[51:50.000 --> 51:52.000]  We have not yet won.
[51:52.000 --> 51:54.000]  No, she is right.
[51:54.000 --> 51:56.000]  The West is hysterical because it was born
[51:56.000 --> 51:58.000]  that Russia will fall apart now.
[51:58.000 --> 52:00.000]  Without gas, without sanctions,
[52:00.000 --> 52:02.000]  from the army, from the help and so on.
[52:02.000 --> 52:04.000]  Russia does not fall apart.
[52:04.000 --> 52:06.000]  The situation is falling apart.
[52:06.000 --> 52:08.000]  And the West itself begins to experience
[52:08.000 --> 52:10.000]  a very powerful crisis.
[52:10.000 --> 52:12.000]  As for international law,
[52:12.000 --> 52:14.000]  Alexander Nikolayevich,
[52:14.000 --> 52:16.000]  it began to fall apart almost immediately
[52:16.000 --> 52:18.000]  after the collapse of the USSR.
[52:18.000 --> 52:20.000]  And the sovereign borders were violated
[52:20.000 --> 52:22.000]  by the American comedian John Doar,
[52:22.000 --> 52:24.000]  a third of Syria
[52:24.000 --> 52:26.000]  is still under the American forces
[52:26.000 --> 52:28.000]  in the occupation.
[52:28.000 --> 52:30.000]  And where are the sovereign borders of Syria,
[52:30.000 --> 52:32.000]  Afghanistan, Libya,
[52:32.000 --> 52:34.000]  and other parts of the world?
[52:34.000 --> 52:36.000]  Alexander Nikolayevich is not interested in Syria.
[52:36.000 --> 52:38.000]  This law died in the 90s.
[52:38.000 --> 52:40.000]  Yes, it died.
[52:40.000 --> 52:42.000]  I agree that it died.
[52:42.000 --> 52:44.000]  The Minsk agreements,
[52:44.000 --> 52:46.000]  the Minsk agreements.
[52:46.000 --> 52:48.000]  The resolution of the UN Security Council.
[52:48.000 --> 52:50.000]  The international structure
[52:50.000 --> 52:52.000]  is working a little bit.
[52:52.000 --> 52:54.000]  Everyone wanted to spit on the UN.
[52:54.000 --> 52:56.000]  But the position of the president
[52:56.000 --> 52:58.000]  is exactly this.
[52:58.000 --> 53:00.000]  Excuse me, those who spit
[53:00.000 --> 53:02.000]  on the resolution of the Security Council
[53:02.000 --> 53:04.000]  are the violators.
[53:04.000 --> 53:06.000]  And we have the legal right
[53:06.000 --> 53:08.000]  to apply sanctions
[53:08.000 --> 53:10.000]  to the violators.
[53:10.000 --> 53:12.000]  To whom? To the United States?
[53:12.000 --> 53:14.000]  What sanctions are we applying to the United States?
[53:14.000 --> 53:16.000]  To Ukraine, which rudely violated...
[53:16.000 --> 53:18.000]  One more time.
[53:18.000 --> 53:20.000]  Let's cut the cat's tail
[53:20.000 --> 53:22.000]  into pieces.
[53:22.000 --> 53:24.000]  And call for a world war here.
[53:24.000 --> 53:26.000]  It's not a world war.
[53:26.000 --> 53:28.000]  I say that there is no point
[53:28.000 --> 53:30.000]  in talking about international law.
[53:30.000 --> 53:32.000]  This is very pointless.
[53:32.000 --> 53:34.000]  Because on the Valdai Forum
[53:34.000 --> 53:36.000]  there were people who
[53:36.000 --> 53:38.000]  stand for the restoration
[53:38.000 --> 53:40.000]  of the norms of international law.
[53:40.000 --> 53:42.000]  On the Valdai Forum there were people
[53:42.000 --> 53:44.000]  who want to build a new multipolar world.
[53:44.000 --> 53:46.000]  But in this new world
[53:46.000 --> 53:48.000]  international law
[53:48.000 --> 53:50.000]  should work.
[53:50.000 --> 53:52.000]  Let's stop
[53:52.000 --> 53:54.000]  until we have fought enough.
[53:54.000 --> 53:56.000]  Excuse me.
[54:00.000 --> 54:02.000]  Don't miss the events
[54:02.000 --> 54:04.000]  and people of the week
[54:04.000 --> 54:06.000]  in Central Television.
[54:06.000 --> 54:08.000]  Biden has backed down.
[54:08.000 --> 54:10.000]  Why did the White House refuse
[54:10.000 --> 54:12.000]  to set the ceiling
[54:12.000 --> 54:14.000]  of the European Union?
[54:14.000 --> 54:16.000]  The head of the European Commission
[54:16.000 --> 54:18.000]  Ursula von der Leyen is going to confiscate
[54:18.000 --> 54:20.000]  all Russian assets in the West.
[54:20.000 --> 54:22.000]  Why does Kiev already
[54:22.000 --> 54:24.000]  count these money as its own?
[54:24.000 --> 54:26.000]  And how many billions will go
[54:26.000 --> 54:28.000]  to the continuation of the war?
[54:28.000 --> 54:30.000]  The economy of the Ukrainian conflict.
[54:30.000 --> 54:32.000]  How much does one shot cost?
[54:32.000 --> 54:34.000]  And why does the correct answer
[54:34.000 --> 54:36.000]  surprise you so much?
[54:36.000 --> 54:38.000]  Is resettlement of the soul
[54:38.000 --> 54:40.000]  really possible?
[54:40.000 --> 54:42.000]  And is our world
[54:42.000 --> 54:44.000]  much more complicated
[54:44.000 --> 54:46.000]  than many people think?
[54:46.000 --> 54:48.000]  This will be your Central Television
[54:48.000 --> 54:50.000]  tomorrow at 19.00
[54:50.000 --> 55:14.000]  on MTV.
[55:14.000 --> 55:16.000]  How could I,
[55:16.000 --> 55:18.000]  chef Konstantin Ibleyev,
[55:18.000 --> 55:20.000]  make chicken steaks
[55:20.000 --> 55:22.000]  from chicken breast?
[55:22.000 --> 55:24.000]  Well,
[55:24.000 --> 55:26.000]  just think
[55:26.000 --> 55:28.000]  about serving.
[55:28.000 --> 55:30.000]  100% chicken breast
[55:30.000 --> 55:32.000]  is used in chicken breast,
[55:32.000 --> 55:34.000]  so you feel a piece of chicken
[55:34.000 --> 55:36.000]  and nothing extra.
[55:36.000 --> 55:38.000]  Or, voila,
[55:38.000 --> 55:40.000]  try nuggets,
[55:40.000 --> 55:42.000]  wings,
[55:42.000 --> 56:00.000]  and that's it.
[56:00.000 --> 56:02.000]  Who else
[56:02.000 --> 56:04.000]  can our scouts hear
[56:04.000 --> 56:06.000]  in the front line?
[56:06.000 --> 56:08.000]  Polish paratroopers
[56:08.000 --> 56:10.000]  in Zaporozhye,
[56:10.000 --> 56:12.000]  and American camp
[56:12.000 --> 56:14.000]  of mercenaries
[56:14.000 --> 56:16.000]  near Lvov.
[56:16.000 --> 56:18.000]  Today I will show you
[56:18.000 --> 56:20.000]  what they said
[56:20.000 --> 56:22.000]  in captivity
[56:22.000 --> 56:24.000]  and what they sang
[56:24.000 --> 56:26.000]  afterwards.
[56:26.000 --> 56:28.000]  A very big guy
[56:28.000 --> 56:30.000]  hit his stomach with a fist
[56:30.000 --> 56:32.000]  and said,
[56:32.000 --> 56:34.000]  welcome to Russia.
[56:34.000 --> 56:36.000]  They came from your captivity
[56:36.000 --> 56:38.000]  and started to say some nasty things.
[56:38.000 --> 56:40.000]  Like a descendant of Kennedy,
[56:40.000 --> 56:42.000]  he tried to start a third world war.
[56:42.000 --> 56:44.000]  He was part of a special forces detachment.
[56:44.000 --> 56:46.000]  He participated in shootings
[56:46.000 --> 56:48.000]  with Russians.
[56:48.000 --> 56:50.000]  And the last role of the star
[56:50.000 --> 56:52.000]  of Brazilian TV shows.
[56:52.000 --> 56:54.000]  I can tell my comrades
[56:54.000 --> 56:56.000]  not to be offended if they come.
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[59:06.000 --> 59:08.000]  To understand and to forgive.
[59:10.000 --> 59:12.000]  What to do with brands,
[59:12.000 --> 59:14.000]  songs and movies of those artists
[59:14.000 --> 59:16.000]  who stood up against the special operation?
[59:16.000 --> 59:18.000]  I'm a blonde, you know,
[59:18.000 --> 59:20.000]  the demand from me is not great.
[59:20.000 --> 59:22.000]  But the line of the front
[59:22.000 --> 59:24.000]  divided the artists.
[59:24.000 --> 59:26.000]  Sit there and, God forbid,
[59:26.000 --> 59:28.000]  your foot will step on this land.
[59:28.000 --> 59:30.000]  And for whom of the creative immigrants
[59:30.000 --> 59:32.000]  the escape from Russia
[59:32.000 --> 59:34.000]  became a new step in his career?
[59:34.000 --> 59:36.000]  I bow to you, my feeders.
[59:36.000 --> 59:38.000]  About this right now.
[59:44.000 --> 59:46.000]  This is the place of the meeting
[59:46.000 --> 59:48.000]  on NTV, the place where everything becomes clear.
[59:48.000 --> 59:50.000]  As you understand from the announcement,
[59:50.000 --> 59:52.000]  we will not go away from politics at all,
[59:52.000 --> 59:54.000]  but a little bit again
[59:54.000 --> 59:56.000]  in the sphere of art.
[59:56.000 --> 59:58.000]  Therefore, I remind the Muscovites
[59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.000]  that on November 9 there is a Magnus Locus club,
[01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.000]  but there are very few tickets left.
[01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.000]  On November 12, I will be in Dzerzhinsk
[01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:06.000]  in the Department of Chemicals.
[01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.000]  On November 19 in Ryazan,
[01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.000]  in the Department of Pre-Ox.
[01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:12.000]  At the end of November and December,
[01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:14.000]  I will tell you later what we will talk about now.
[01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.000]  In the next part of the program,
[01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.000]  the idea,
[01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.000]  which has been repeatedly voiced by Vladimir Putin,
[01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.000]  that we,
[01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:26.000]  and Ukrainians, are one people.
[01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.000]  Now again on Valdai he talked about it.
[01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.000]  At the same time,
[01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.000]  and this we also noted,
[01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.000]  that perhaps for the first time
[01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.000]  the head of state admitted that
[01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.000]  we are now in a state of civil war.
[01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.000]  That is, there is a war
[01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.000]  inside one nation, in fact.
[01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:48.000]  If we highlight this terribly disturbing
[01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:50.000]  topic of our public life
[01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.000]  with people who are
[01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.000]  leaders of public opinion,
[01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:56.000]  with stars,
[01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.000]  with creative people.
[01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.000]  We have this civil war
[01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.000]  in the sphere of creative people,
[01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.000]  in the camp of creative people.
[01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.000]  It looks like this.
[01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.000]  There is a group of strongly suffering
[01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.000]  Ukrainian artists,
[01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.000]  who were more popular in Russia
[01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.000]  than in Ukraine.
[01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.000]  Or on the scale of the whole country,
[01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.000]  earlier than the entire Soviet Union.
[01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:20.000]  There is a group of strongly suffering
[01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:22.000]  Russian artists,
[01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.000]  who left Russia after the beginning
[01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.000]  of the special military operation.
[01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.000]  Which of them should be understood
[01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.000]  and forgiven or not?
[01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.000]  This we want to try to find out now.
[01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.000]  Let's start with the suffering
[01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.000]  Ukrainian artists,
[01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.000]  who were more popular in Russia
[01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.000]  than in Ukraine.
[01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.000]  They are very hard now.
[01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.000]  I was not a Ukrainian singer,
[01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.000]  because I did not participate
[01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.000]  in any song of the year.
[01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.000]  It just happened to me
[01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.000]  that Ukraine itself did not perceive me.
[01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.000]  After the beginning of the special operation,
[01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:56.000]  Vera Brezhneva, a native of Dnepropetrovsk region,
[01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.000]  left Russia.
[01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.000]  She managed to work as a volunteer
[01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.000]  in Poland, made a tattoo
[01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.000]  in the form of a embroidery
[01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.000]  and recorded a patriotic track
[01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.000]  for the Prosecutor's Office of Russia
[01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.000]  because of the black and red threads
[01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:12.000]  mentioned in the text.
[01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:14.000]  They can be associated with the flag
[01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.000]  of the banned organization
[01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.000]  of Ukrainian nationalists.
[01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.000]  After the February events,
[01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.000]  the public in Russia and in Ukraine
[01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.000]  was waiting for the specifics
[01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:34.000]  of whose side the artist would choose.
[01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.000]  However, Lorak kept silent.
[01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:38.000]  Since the beginning of the special operation,
[01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.000]  the singer stopped running social networks
[01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.000]  and almost did not appear in public.
[01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.000]  As a result,
[01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.000]  Ukrainian and Russian fans
[01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:48.000]  began to complain to her.
[01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.000]  The singer went to Turkey to her ex-husband.
[01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.000]  Then she was announced on tour
[01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.000]  in the Czech Republic and Germany,
[01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:56.000]  but recently everything was canceled
[01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.000]  as well as tours in Russia.
[01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.000]  There is a famous TV presenter,
[01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.000]  Regina Todorenko, for example,
[01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.000]  born in Odessa,
[01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.000]  also did not say anything
[01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.000]  about the special operation.
[01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.000]  At the same time,
[01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.000]  she continues to work
[01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:14.000]  and shoot in Moscow.
[01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.000]  And only once she posted a picture
[01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.000]  with the Ukrainian nationalists
[01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.000]  in social networks.
[01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.000]  In this picture,
[01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.000]  she says that she was
[01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.000]  a member of the Ukrainian nationalists
[01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.000]  and that she was a member
[01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.000]  of the Ukrainian nationalists.
[01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.000]  She posted a picture
[01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.000]  with the Ukrainian and Russian flags
[01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.000]  showing that she was for peace
[01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.000]  between the countries,
[01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.000]  but she resisted other statements.
[01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.000]  She just said that she did not want
[01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.000]  to raise these issues
[01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.000]  in order not to complicate the relationship
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.000]  in the family.
[01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.000]  In the homeland,
[01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.000]  this position does not suit many TV presenters.
[01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.000]  You are a fool,
[01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.000]  and there is no one to talk to.
[01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.000]  Sit there and God forbid
[01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.000]  your children and your husbands,
[01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.000]  and everyone sit there and let it be so.
[01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:04.000]  Amen.
[01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.000]  But the Ukrainian citizen
[01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.000]  and TV presenter Zhanna Badoeva
[01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.000]  publicly spoke against the special operation
[01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:12.000]  in the spring,
[01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.000]  but then she changed her mind
[01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.000]  and deleted the post.
[01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.000]  Although in the State Duma
[01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:20.000]  such mistakes are not forgotten,
[01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:22.000]  and now when the program Badoeva
[01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.000]  returned to the air
[01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.000]  of one of the federal TV channels,
[01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.000]  the Ukrainian citizen
[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.000]  and Italian citizen Zhanna Badoeva
[01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.000]  returned to the air,
[01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.000]  which is not a place on TV
[01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.000]  and needs to be removed from the air.
[01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.000]  So, Elena Yuryevna,
[01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:40.000]  Verka Serdyuchka explains
[01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.000]  that these Ukrainian stars
[01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.000]  behave like this
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:46.000]  because they live
[01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.000]  in an atmosphere of fear in Russia.
[01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.000]  In general, they cannot behave
[01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:52.000]  in any other way.
[01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.000]  Do you accept such a version?
[01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:56.000]  No.
[01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.000]  Now we should consider
[01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.000]  any phenomenon in art, culture, etc.
[01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.000]  from the point of view of
[01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:04.000]  benefit or harm to national security.
[01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.000]  A person works for our national security.
[01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.000]  What about human love and humanity?
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.000]  What is the fashion word now?
[01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.000]  Empathy?
[01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.000]  Empathy.
[01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.000]  There is another incident
[01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.000]  that is not mentioned here.
[01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.000]  When on the federal Russian channel
[01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.000]  one notorious character
[01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.000]  spoke in quite Bender phrases.
[01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:26.000]  And then
[01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:28.000]  his admonition began.
[01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.000]  Let's say goodbye,
[01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.000]  we are all Christians.
[01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.000]  Christianity does not allow
[01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.000]  reconciliation with enemies of the Fatherland.
[01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.000]  This is what the elders said.
[01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.000]  If this is your personal enemy,
[01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.000]  you have to forgive him,
[01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.000]  especially when he asks for forgiveness.
[01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.000]  But to the enemies of the Fatherland,
[01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:48.000]  you need to beat the enemy of the Fatherland
[01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.000]  and anger the enemies.
[01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.000]  And if they do not express themselves,
[01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:54.000]  or do not express themselves clearly enough,
[01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.000]  do we rule from them,
[01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.000]  Elena Yuryevna?
[01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.000]  You say that we should be guided
[01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.000]  by the interests of national security.
[01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.000]  I know not only you,
[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.000]  but also people who think so.
[01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:08.000]  They offer to approach each of these ladies,
[01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  take them by the chest and say,
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.000]  are you with them or are you with us?
[01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:14.000]  It seems to me,
[01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.000]  this is my personal opinion,
[01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.000]  that this should not be done.
[01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.000]  Look,
[01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.000]  if our country is now mobilized,
[01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:24.000]  in fact, the whole,
[01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:26.000]  both the rear and the front,
[01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.000]  then those people who do not express themselves
[01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:30.000]  in any way, they can be attributed to the pacifists.
[01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.000]  This is how the pacifists
[01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:34.000]  are treated in wartime.
[01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.000]  These are people, excuse me,
[01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.000]  they certainly have to decide,
[01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.000]  because the time is such.
[01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.000]  If you did not say that you are with us,
[01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.000]  you are against us.
[01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.000]  In fact, yes, in peacetime
[01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:48.000]  we are not living in peacetime now.
[01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.000]  Let's talk about this pacifist with a beard.
[01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.000]  I know that he is a pacifist.
[01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.000]  I wanted to wear a t-shirt
[01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.000]  with Lev Nikolaevich Tolstoy today.
[01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.000]  I did not have time,
[01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.000]  but it would have been necessary,
[01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.000]  because he fits very well
[01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.000]  to the topic of today's program.
[01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.000]  I somehow mentally sorted out
[01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:08.000]  in my head the great Russian writers
[01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.000]  who would suddenly be in our time,
[01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.000]  in our circumstances,
[01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:14.000]  however they would express themselves.
[01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  Lev Nikolaevich actually
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  fired from a cannon.
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.000]  He fired.
[01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.000]  He served only for five years.
[01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.000]  After that, he reflected all his life
[01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:26.000]  until the end of his life.
[01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.000]  And war and peace
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.000]  are already anti-war pathos.
[01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  This is how you interpret it?
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.000]  Valery Valerievich, wait.
[01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.000]  Fedor Mikhailovich,
[01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  of course, would have been
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.000]  for the special military operation.
[01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.000]  Yes, Anton Pavlovich.
[01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:44.000]  I do not know.
[01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.000]  Anton Pavlovich, in my opinion,
[01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.000]  was such a misanthropist
[01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.000]  that he would not care.
[01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:52.000]  Or a hedonist.
[01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.000]  I do not know what else.
[01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.000]  Maybe he, like Ani Lorak,
[01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.000]  would not have commented on anything.
[01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.000]  So what are you leading to now?
[01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.000]  It is easy to put labels,
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.000]  but people here did not act
[01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:06.000]  like enemies of the Russian Federation.
[01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:08.000]  They did not take a certain position.
[01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  But they do not act like patriots.
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.000]  I saw how in 2019,
[01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:14.000]  Regina Todorenko sat next to me
[01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.000]  and wept with crocodile tears
[01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  because she could not go to her native city
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:20.000]  Odessa, where she has a grandmother.
[01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:22.000]  She could not show her grandson,
[01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.000]  because she was not allowed to go to Ukraine.
[01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.000]  We did not allow her?
[01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.000]  No, the Ukrainian authorities did not allow her.
[01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:30.000]  She sat and wept.
[01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  We risk turning into them.
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.000]  What position should she take?
[01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.000]  Let's put her on fire
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.000]  and say, no, mother, please,
[01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:40.000]  do not do this.
[01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  You give an example
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.000]  when a person
[01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.000]  finds himself in the atmosphere of hatred
[01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:48.000]  in his own homeland,
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.000]  a big homeland.
[01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:52.000]  They say that it is us
[01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.000]  who put them here
[01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:56.000]  in an unthinkable atmosphere of fear.
[01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.000]  Not all of us,
[01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:00.000]  but someone here,
[01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  as well as on the other side,
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:04.000]  is required to decide, to speak
[01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  and to take this or that position.
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.000]  Unfortunately, it is necessary.
[01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.000]  To great regret,
[01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:12.000]  I believe that only those people
[01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:14.000]  who have similar families
[01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:16.000]  have the right
[01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.000]  not to express their position
[01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.000]  or adhere to open neutrality.
[01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:22.000]  Explain to me why
[01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  we have the right
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.000]  to demand this
[01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.000]  from representatives
[01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.000]  of creative professions.
[01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:32.000]  Well, then it is logical
[01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.000]  that we go and question
[01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:36.000]  or do not question the investigators,
[01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.000]  because they are all a priori.
[01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.000]  They have the influence
[01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:42.000]  on a large number of people
[01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.000]  and, to great regret,
[01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.000]  I was convinced
[01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.000]  in my personal experience,
[01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.000]  looking at the various battles
[01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.000]  that are taking place,
[01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.000]  always loses the one
[01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:56.000]  who is more congenial
[01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  during serious
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.000]  conflicts.
[01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.000]  You have to first figure out the conflict,
[01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.000]  and then deal with pacifism.
[01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:06.000]  First, yes.
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.000]  Do you understand that
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  if, roughly speaking,
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:12.000]  there is a fighter in the ring
[01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  against you
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  and you will not be able to avoid a fight,
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.000]  then any attempts
[01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:20.000]  to soften the conflict
[01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:22.000]  will always lose.
[01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.000]  Only traitors
[01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:26.000]  can win this country.
[01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.000]  To great regret,
[01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.000]  I do not blame these people.
[01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.000]  Well, of course.
[01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.000]  The expression
[01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.000]  this country is a little
[01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.000]  of our liberal friends.
[01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.000]  No, no, no.
[01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.000]  Only traitors can win our country.
[01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.000]  And despite the fact
[01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.000]  that I myself am a rather peaceful person.
[01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.000]  Well, okay.
[01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.000]  Vanya, excuse me.
[01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:52.000]  We asked
[01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.000]  your colleagues
[01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:56.000]  to decide.
[01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.000]  They said, I have decided,
[01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:00.000]  you, me and Elena Yuryevna
[01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.000]  are not satisfied.
[01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.000]  What do we do?
[01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.000]  Go out? Out of the art?
[01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:08.000]  No.
[01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:10.000]  But at least a person
[01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.000]  during the conflict
[01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:14.000]  should not be in places
[01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  where he can express his opinion.
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.000]  Do you understand that?
[01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:20.000]  In his prayer, he does not have the right to speak.
[01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.000]  You say that people are silent,
[01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.000]  but nevertheless they are allowed
[01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  to work on television.
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.000]  He will support somewhere
[01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  some Ukrainian positions.
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:32.000]  Somewhere he will soften
[01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:34.000]  the position of Russia.
[01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:36.000]  And it will all play against us.
[01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:38.000]  And as a result, everyone will suffer.
[01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.000]  Askold Valchik, here is the problem.
[01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.000]  And we do not leave a person
[01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.000]  the opportunity, the chance
[01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.000]  not to speak on some topic.
[01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.000]  On a neutral territory, please.
[01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  If he does not want to do it.
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.000]  For example.
[01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.000]  Wait.
[01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.000]  A person who speaks on the topic
[01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.000]  of his own on February 24th.
[01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.000]  Not all these statements
[01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  I want to listen and repeat.
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.000]  Because sometimes we understand
[01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:06.000]  that a person is not very immersed in the topic.
[01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.000]  He does not fully understand what he is saying.
[01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.000]  But he wants to somehow
[01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.000]  confirm his point.
[01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.000]  A person admits that he is incompetent.
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  Why do we make him say
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:18.000]  no, you tell me.
[01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.000]  This is a completely different question.
[01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.000]  This is about the same thing.
[01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:24.000]  If a person
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:26.000]  is in an influential position.
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.000]  If a person remains influential
[01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.000]  on the masses of people.
[01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.000]  He must define
[01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.000]  his position.
[01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.000]  Then next time, if he does
[01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:38.000]  some actions,
[01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.000]  we can demand from him.
[01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.000]  If a person
[01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.000]  wants to observe neutrality.
[01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.000]  He does not want to express himself.
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  On a neutral territory, please.
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  Here is how the artist left for Turkey.
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.000]  He is there during the special
[01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.000]  military operation.
[01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.000]  Here it is absolutely not necessary to demand anything from him.
[01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:58.000]  If a person wants to continue
[01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  to work with concerts,
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:02.000]  go out to a large audience,
[01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.000]  have the opportunity, even the opportunity
[01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.000]  to express himself,
[01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  then here we need to understand
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.000]  who we are dealing with.
[01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:12.000]  We need to cut off the resources from Russia.
[01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.000]  Valeriy Valerievich,
[01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.000]  I just remembered
[01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:18.000]  the words of Lev Nikolaevich,
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:20.000]  who said that
[01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:22.000]  he found patriotism in me.
[01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.000]  I mean the period of
[01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:26.000]  youth, Vassopol stories.
[01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:28.000]  Late Tolstoy is really
[01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.000]  a pacifist.
[01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.000]  When we remember
[01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:34.000]  both the elders and Tolstoy,
[01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.000]  I see that we have problems
[01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.000]  in the modern world that we cannot solve.
[01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:40.000]  Therefore, we always attract
[01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:42.000]  people who have long gone.
[01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:44.000]  Vladimir Viktorovich started it.
[01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.000]  Are you sure that you are now
[01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.000]  interpreting the mood of Tolstoy?
[01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.000]  If Tolstoy
[01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:52.000]  were in our studio now,
[01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:54.000]  he would say that
[01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:56.000]  the war is bad,
[01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:58.000]  let's go mow the lawn.
[01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:00.000]  There is weakness in it.
[01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:02.000]  When we take out
[01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.000]  from the coffins of the great,
[01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.000]  it means that in the modern world
[01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.000]  we have no language, no concepts.
[01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.000]  By the way, the phrase is the country,
[01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.000]  this is the Akhmatov phrase.
[01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.000]  If someday in this country
[01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.000]  you will put a monument to me,
[01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:18.000]  it will appear a long time ago.
[01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:20.000]  It is important to understand
[01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.000]  when such intonations began to appear.
[01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.000]  As for the artists,
[01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.000]  Akhmatov could have had reasons
[01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.000]  to relate to this country.
[01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.000]  There could be very serious reasons.
[01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000]  I just drew your attention
[01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:34.000]  to the fact that this phrase
[01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.000]  is used by those people
[01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.000]  whom Akhmatov is like walking to China.
[01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:40.000]  Again,
[01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.000]  the literary genius
[01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.000]  was erased for no reason.
[01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.000]  Artists behave like this
[01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.000]  because their property,
[01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.000]  I always talk about it,
[01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.000]  is to dust the culture,
[01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.000]  their property is to cross borders.
[01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.000]  Like a butterfly?
[01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:58.000]  Yes, like a butterfly.
[01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.000]  This is their feature.
[01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.000]  Secondly, artists look into the future
[01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.000]  because time will pass
[01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:06.000]  and the situation will change.
[01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.000]  I remember our previous meeting
[01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.000]  with Askold.
[01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.000]  We promised to delete Telegram
[01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.000]  in case of necessity
[01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.000]  because that day
[01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.000]  Durov asked not to call him
[01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:20.000]  a Russian businessman.
[01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:22.000]  We were all sitting here
[01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.000]  and talking about what he was doing.
[01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.000]  I don't remember that at all.
[01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:28.000]  I remember it perfectly.
[01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.000]  Time will change.
[01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.000]  We will change.
[01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.000]  While we still have time,
[01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.000]  Alexander Yakovlevich,
[01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.000]  do you feel like a butterfly?
[01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.000]  Flowers?
[01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.000]  Butterflies and flowers?
[01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000]  Yes, you are a butterfly
[01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.000]  and you are dusting the culture.
[01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:48.000]  I want to say that
[01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.000]  there is some irony
[01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:52.000]  in this question.
[01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:54.000]  I immediately remember Galustyan,
[01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:56.000]  an actor who was insulted
[01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:58.000]  and said,
[01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.000]  let's forgive him.
[01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:02.000]  I don't really understand
[01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000]  the subject of the conversation
[01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.000]  because we are talking about
[01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.000]  normal actors.
[01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000]  You don't have
[01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.000]  a poetic basis in your programs.
[01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.000]  I have a feeling that
[01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.000]  in your time,
[01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.000]  Antony Galustyan wrote
[01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:20.000]  that the pop music
[01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.000]  will crush our souls.
[01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:24.000]  A part of the generation
[01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.000]  grew up on nonsense,
[01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.000]  and a new generation
[01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.000]  was born in nonsense.
[01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.000]  I wrote a poem
[01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.000]  about this generation
[01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.000]  and the times have changed.
[01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000]  Nothing has changed.
[01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.000]  Times have changed.
[01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.000]  It's an eternal story.
[01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.000]  If you don't find something beautiful,
[01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.000]  you sin.
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000]  I'm not arguing with you here.
[01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.000]  When I drive
[01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.000]  and listen to
[01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.000]  Radio Orpheus,
[01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.000]  for some reason,
[01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.000]  they always repeat
[01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:00.000]  the same thing.
[01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.000]  They say that the masne elegy
[01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.000]  is known thanks to Shalyapin.
[01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.000]  I'm not arguing.
[01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:08.000]  People of my generation
[01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.000]  know the masne elegy
[01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.000]  thanks to Lyubov Yevgenyev.
[01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:14.000]  But you have to remember
[01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.000]  that neither you,
[01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:18.000]  nor your colleagues
[01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.000]  of your age
[01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.000]  with your creative heritage
[01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:30.000]  are now
[01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.000]  leaders of public opinion.
[01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.000]  Why?
[01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:36.000]  You don't have that many followers.
[01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.000]  Let's be honest.
[01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.000]  I have a lot of young people,
[01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:42.000]  like Mirzhleikin,
[01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:44.000]  who will never go there.
[01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.000]  I know Zhenya Mironov
[01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.000]  who was always
[01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.000]  in between
[01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.000]  whether he should go or not.
[01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.000]  Then he came there and saw everything.
[01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:56.000]  He saw with his own eyes
[01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.000]  what was going on there.
[01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.000]  People were interested
[01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.000]  in Mironov's position.
[01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.000]  I don't care about statistics.
[01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.000]  I'm talking to myself.
[01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:08.000]  When I come here
[01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:10.000]  and get a call,
[01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:12.000]  how do you feel
[01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.000]  about the gap
[01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.000]  of family relations between
[01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.000]  Bogomolov and Sobchak?
[01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:20.000]  I say that I'm joking.
[01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.000]  It's not us.
[01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:24.000]  We're asking
[01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.000]  about something else.
[01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:28.000]  Is it necessary
[01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:30.000]  for an actor
[01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.000]  to voice
[01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.000]  and emphasize
[01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:36.000]  his position?
[01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:38.000]  Is he in this camp
[01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:40.000]  or in another?
[01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.000]  I won't name names.
[01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:44.000]  When a person who earned money here
[01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.000]  became popular,
[01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:48.000]  when he goes there,
[01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:50.000]  earns money and sponsors
[01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:52.000]  the development of Azov,
[01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:54.000]  then it's a different position.
[01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:56.000]  When he sponsors,
[01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.000]  he doesn't sponsor
[01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.000]  and doesn't commit
[01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:02.000]  a criminal offense.
[01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.000]  Sponsoring Bandera is easy.
[01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.000]  Why should I judge him?
[01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.000]  He left his position.
[01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:10.000]  Thank God.
[01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:12.000]  Some time ago
[01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.000]  it was possible not to pay attention to it.
[01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.000]  Valentin Gavt
[01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:18.000]  and Liya Akhijakova
[01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:20.000]  could play in the same play
[01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:22.000]  without paying attention to their positions.
[01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:24.000]  Do you remember Tatyana Vasilyeva?
[01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.000]  Tatyana Vasilyeva was sitting
[01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.000]  at your place and said
[01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:30.000]  that she had made up her mind
[01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.000]  to continue working with Rachel Gauss.
[01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.000]  Two weeks passed
[01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:36.000]  and she stopped working with him.
[01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:38.000]  I think we shouldn't say anything.
[01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.000]  We still have time.
[01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.000]  Who should demand?
[01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.000]  The society.
[01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.000]  The state or the society?
[01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:48.000]  The society can express
[01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.000]  its opinion in rubles.
[01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.000]  Whether to buy an album
[01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.000]  or not to buy an album,
[01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.000]  whether to listen to a song or not,
[01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.000]  this is the only thing
[01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.000]  the society can do.
[01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.000]  To urge the state to sort it out,
[01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.000]  to press to the nail or to the wall.
[01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.000]  What do they think?
[01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:08.000]  What do they think?
[01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:10.000]  This is a dead end.
[01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.000]  Because in fact
[01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:14.000]  it's not only about the artists,
[01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:16.000]  but about the society itself.
[01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:18.000]  And even in the highest echelons
[01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  there are ambiguous relations
[01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:22.000]  in the State Duma,
[01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.000]  among the ministers,
[01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.000]  among the heads of the regions.
[01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:28.000]  Should we put everyone
[01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:30.000]  from 150 million
[01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:32.000]  on a detector
[01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:34.000]  and find out?
[01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.000]  And then,
[01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.000]  let's suppose hypothetically
[01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.000]  that it will be so,
[01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:42.000]  won't we be surprised
[01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.000]  at the answer of the majority?
[01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:46.000]  Are we all sure
[01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.000]  that it will be so?
[01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:50.000]  In the State Duma,
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.000]  as far as I remember,
[01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.000]  from the highest echelons
[01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.000]  there was a proposal
[01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.000]  to decide whether to leave the premises
[01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.000]  or not.
[01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:02.000]  First of all, the State Duma
[01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.000]  showed an example and decided.
[01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.000]  The parliament unanimously voted
[01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.000]  for the inclusion
[01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.000]  of new regions in Russia
[01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.000]  and for the recognition
[01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.000]  of independence.
[01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.000]  Because there is a common unity here.
[01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.000]  If we talk about the leaders of opinions,
[01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.000]  then parliamentarians are
[01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:22.000]  clearly such,
[01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.000]  and to this day they show a good example
[01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.000]  from the side of the state.
[01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.000]  They are politicians,
[01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:30.000]  professional politicians.
[01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.000]  Their work will be determined
[01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.000]  by some question.
[01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:36.000]  We can only discuss
[01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.000]  whether I am a professional politician
[01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.000]  or not,
[01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.000]  this is a controversial question.
[01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:44.000]  To force them
[01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:46.000]  to speak their position publicly
[01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.000]  or not. I think that everything
[01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.000]  should be done according to the law.
[01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.000]  Today there is no such law
[01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.000]  that would oblige someone
[01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:56.000]  to stand in this camp or that camp.
[01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.000]  Moreover, I completely agree with you
[01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.000]  when you say that one thing
[01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.000]  is to have a position,
[01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:04.000]  another thing is the obligation
[01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.000]  of its expression.
[01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:08.000]  This is the right of every person
[01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.000]  to speak on any occasion
[01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:12.000]  and this is what I would pay attention to.
[01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.000]  I think it is fair that those stars
[01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:16.000]  who earned capital here
[01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.000]  fled there
[01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:20.000]  and publicly spoke
[01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.000]  against their own country.
[01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:24.000]  But if they want to return
[01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:26.000]  the lost sons of their rights,
[01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:28.000]  but at the same time they cannot
[01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:30.000]  earn money for the state account.
[01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.000]  In my opinion, this is simply amoral.
[01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.000]  This is the first point.
[01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.000]  And the second point,
[01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:38.000]  if they continue to earn
[01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.000]  money for the state account,
[01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.000]  they can, of course,
[01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:44.000]  organize concerts there.
[01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:46.000]  However, if they transfer money
[01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.000]  to rent an apartment
[01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.000]  and invest it in someone else's economy
[01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.000]  by hating their own country,
[01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:54.000]  then they should be blocked.
[01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.000]  Let's talk about this
[01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.000]  after the break.
[01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.000]  NADEL!
[01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.000]  The main sponsor of the Ukrainian Nazis
[01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:06.000]  by the nickname of Docent.
[01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.000]  I am a stubborn nationalist
[01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.000]  with extreme right-wing views.
[01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:14.000]  A dangerous spider
[01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:16.000]  that spit poisonous web on Ukraine.
[01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:20.000]  I zombify people.
[01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.000]  His personal army of thugs.
[01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.000]  This is a direct and serious betrayal.
[01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.000]  And his distant plans
[01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.000]  to remove the head of the terrorists
[01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.000]  Zelenskiy.
[01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:32.000]  We will ask.
[01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:34.000]  We will ask.
[01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:36.000]  From our government.
[01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:56.000]  NADEL!
[01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:08.000]  Professional nano-feet
[01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.000]  to care for the skin of the legs
[01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.000]  with discounts up to 50%
[01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:14.000]  for wild berries.
[01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.000]  Pedicure at home in 15 minutes.
[01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.000]  Air fresheners
[01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:32.000]  capture and block
[01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.000]  molecules of unpleasant smell.
[01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.000]  This is how freshness sounds.
[01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:38.000]  Try the same rolls.
[01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:40.000]  Delicious,
[01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:42.000]  appetizing, juicy.
[01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.000]  Only now are a couple of rolls
[01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.000]  at a good price, tasty and period.
[01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.000]  The usual wearing of socks
[01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.000]  becomes a real torment.
[01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.000]  Unique device
[01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.000]  put on.
[01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.000]  Simple and painless way
[01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.000]  to wear socks.
[01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.000]  Without bending and without help.
[01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:08.000]  Put on this device
[01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.000]  consisting of a special frame and handle.
[01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.000]  See how simple it is.
[01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:14.000]  Pull the sock on the device frame,
[01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:16.000]  put it on the floor
[01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:18.000]  and put your foot inside the sock.
[01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:20.000]  Done!
[01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:22.000]  Simple, convenient design
[01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:24.000]  that will allow you to easily and quickly
[01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:26.000]  wear socks of any type.
[01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:28.000]  See how simple it is.
[01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:30.000]  You can also use the handle
[01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:32.000]  which has a lot of space
[01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.000]  and it is convenient to take with you.
[01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:36.000]  Even the most difficult movements
[01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.000]  make you uncomfortable.
[01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.000]  Unique device
[01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:42.000]  put on.
[01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.000]  It will help you to put on or take off socks.
[01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:46.000]  With its help you can put on shoes
[01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:48.000]  without pain and discomfort.
[01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:50.000]  Without bending and without help
[01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:52.000]  take care of your health
[01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.000]  and give this care to those
[01:25:54.000 --> 01:26:00.000]  who need it.
[01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:26.000]  This is the only avatar
[01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:28.000]  who has passed the path
[01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:30.000]  from the first to the last episode.
[01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.000]  Someone from the jury
[01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:34.000]  who guesses the most avatars
[01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:36.000]  will be the winner
[01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:38.000]  in this competition.
[01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.000]  He gave a note.
[01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:42.000]  It was a joke.
[01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:44.000]  I ate a piece of paper!
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[01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:12.000]  This is the place of the meeting on NTV,
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[01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:16.000]  We continue.
[01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.000]  We stopped at the words of Maria Butina
[01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:20.000]  that our artists who left the country
[01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.000]  after the 24th of February
[01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:24.000]  should be looked at
[01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.000]  and if they behave badly.
[01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.000]  You can look at these artists
[01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:30.000]  not to look at them,
[01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:32.000]  but just look at them.
[01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.000]  First of all, now in many countries
[01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:36.000]  when you leave the country
[01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.000]  you are required to sign a paper
[01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:40.000]  that you are against Russia.
[01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:42.000]  But they blocked you and that's it.
[01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:44.000]  Nevertheless, these people who left
[01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:46.000]  have different positions.
[01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.000]  Someone left for ideological reasons
[01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.000]  and lost their earnings.
[01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:52.000]  This is already known.
[01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:54.000]  Others left for ideological reasons
[01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.000]  and found themselves
[01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:58.000]  in a financial situation.
[01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.000]  Let's look at some of them.
[01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000]  The author of the songs
[01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.000]  that went viral
[01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.000]  and just a comedian Semyon Slepakov
[01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:08.000]  lost a lot of money
[01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:10.000]  after leaving Russia for Israel.
[01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.000]  Previously, he took more than 4 million rubles
[01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.000]  for the corporation.
[01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:16.000]  Now they say that you can bargain for 2 million.
[01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.000]  But foreign agent Andrey Makarevich
[01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.000]  does not hide that things are not very good.
[01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.000]  The Israeli move sent him
[01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.000]  into a creative vacuum.
[01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:26.000]  I was much more
[01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:28.000]  realistic in Moscow.
[01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.000]  I had more business.
[01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:32.000]  Because around me
[01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:34.000]  there were more
[01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:36.000]  creative people
[01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:38.000]  who I knew,
[01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:40.000]  who knew me.
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.000]  And all the time
[01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:44.000]  some ideas were boiling around.
[01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.000]  And you participated in something
[01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.000]  and helped someone.
[01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.000]  And someone went to listen
[01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:52.000]  and read to someone.
[01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.000]  It was a very, very, very
[01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.000]  busy environment.
[01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:58.000]  I hope it will come back.
[01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:00.000]  Thank you, my dear ones.
[01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.000]  I bow to you.
[01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.000]  You are my feeders.
[01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.000]  The parodist
[01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:08.000]  and foreign agent Maxim Galkin
[01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:10.000]  was considered one of the most highly paid
[01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:12.000]  presenters on Russian TV.
[01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:14.000]  When he left, many predicted
[01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.000]  that he would have a hard time abroad.
[01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:18.000]  The showman said that he no longer had
[01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.000]  advertising contracts and performances in Russia.
[01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.000]  As a result, the artist seems to have found
[01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:24.000]  his audience abroad.
[01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:26.000]  Galkin has a big world tour planned,
[01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:28.000]  which will last until the spring of 2023.
[01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:30.000]  He is expected in the United States,
[01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.000]  Canada and European countries.
[01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:34.000]  Galkin is also called
[01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.000]  by Russian corporations,
[01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.000]  which are held abroad.
[01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.000]  The press writes that the average fee for the event
[01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.000]  is from 6 million rubles.
[01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:44.000]  Thus, Galkin is the most
[01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:46.000]  in demand and earning
[01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.000]  running artist.
[01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:50.000]  He also expects to return.
[01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:52.000]  I am asked if I am going to Russia.
[01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:54.000]  I say, you know,
[01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:56.000]  there is such a thing.
[01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:58.000]  If you throw a coin,
[01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:00.000]  you will definitely come back.
[01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:02.000]  And I threw a couple of millions there.
[01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:04.000]  Very good.
[01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:06.000]  Relatively well
[01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.000]  are the affairs of Renata Litvinova.
[01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.000]  After the start of the special operation,
[01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:12.000]  she moved to her Paris apartment.
[01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:14.000]  There, Litvinova writes plays,
[01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:16.000]  organizes photo sessions,
[01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:18.000]  and even in Tallinn
[01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.000]  took place the premiere
[01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:22.000]  of her monospectacle Cactus.
[01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:24.000]  The price for tickets is significant,
[01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.000]  from 250 to 600 euros.
[01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.000]  Litvinova herself leads a bohemian life in Paris
[01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:30.000]  and even participates in fashion shows
[01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.000]  of world brands.
[01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.000]  Indeed, some kind of cactus.
[01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:44.000]  Indeed, some kind of cactus.
[01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:46.000]  The people who left,
[01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:48.000]  are they all purely ideological?
[01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:50.000]  Or does someone have
[01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:52.000]  some kind of business
[01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:54.000]  behind the ideology?
[01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:56.000]  A strategy that a person just decided to apply?
[01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:58.000]  Well, maybe both.
[01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:00.000]  I agree with Alexander Yakovlevich
[01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:02.000]  that they are not interesting to me.
[01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.000]  Well, that is, if someone has decided
[01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:06.000]  to become an inagent or has not become yet,
[01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:08.000]  they are really not interesting to me.
[01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:10.000]  Have you never listened to the time machine?
[01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.000]  So I just want to move on to this.
[01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.000]  I will listen to the aquarium,
[01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:16.000]  I will listen to the time machine.
[01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:18.000]  It does not depend on their political views.
[01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:20.000]  Well, that's what they think now.
[01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:22.000]  It depends on me.
[01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:24.000]  I will not listen to it in principle.
[01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:26.000]  This is my personal position.
[01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.000]  Well, this is also a position, please.
[01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.000]  In any case, I will not turn it off right away.
[01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.000]  What was done at a certain time
[01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:34.000]  will remain at that time.
[01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.000]  I am against black lists at all,
[01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:38.000]  because it seems to me that
[01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:40.000]  it is not worth spending time on it now.
[01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:42.000]  It is worth your energy,
[01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:44.000]  your strength,
[01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:46.000]  as it were, to direct.
[01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:48.000]  Not all actors can be like
[01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.000]  Ascolt or like Alexander Yakovlevich
[01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.000]  to stand up and declare their position.
[01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.000]  For a number of reasons, but they cannot.
[01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:56.000]  Why? What is the problem?
[01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:58.000]  This must be asked of each of them.
[01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.000]  I can recommend from my side.
[01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:02.000]  Now is the time to decide.
[01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:04.000]  But I am not going to force them.
[01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.000]  And why then decide?
[01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:08.000]  Well, I can recommend them.
[01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:10.000]  Do you think it will become easier?
[01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:12.000]  Yes, it will become easier.
[01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.000]  Because many people are suffering from it.
[01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:16.000]  To make this first step
[01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.000]  is very difficult.
[01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.000]  I am sure that it was not easy for Zakhar Prilepnin
[01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:22.000]  and Ivan Khlobystin
[01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:24.000]  to make this first step, to decide.
[01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.000]  But now they live with it.
[01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:28.000]  They are constantly under pressure on the one hand
[01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.000]  and on the other hand.
[01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.000]  But they keep this banner, and thank God.
[01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:34.000]  Why am I against these lists?
[01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:36.000]  The fact is that we will win.
[01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:38.000]  And then, when we win,
[01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:40.000]  many of them will come back, and we will forgive them anyway.
[01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:42.000]  But it has always been like this.
[01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:44.000]  Maybe this is what our country is strong for.
[01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.000]  But we will forgive them.
[01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:48.000]  But it has always been like this.
[01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:50.000]  And it will continue to be like this.
[01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.000]  And for this, forgiveness, as you say,
[01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:54.000]  is necessary.
[01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:56.000]  Or our people are so forgiving.
[01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.000]  If they come back,
[01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.000]  all this will remain on the third page of the textbook.
[01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:02.000]  We will forget it and go to the concert again.
[01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:04.000]  I think that in front of the audience,
[01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:06.000]  you see how his favorite actor
[01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:08.000]  says not what he would like to hear from him.
[01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:10.000]  And at this moment,
[01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:12.000]  the very thing you are talking about happens.
[01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:14.000]  He will decide for himself.
[01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:16.000]  He will decide for himself.
[01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:18.000]  Let's leave it to them.
[01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:20.000]  I think we need to look at things.
[01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:22.000]  Because many actors...
[01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:24.000]  For me, not these lists are important,
[01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.000]  but lists of products, things,
[01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:28.000]  equipment that needs to be taken
[01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:30.000]  where they are expected.
[01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:32.000]  Where people in the front line, in hell,
[01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:34.000]  I would pay attention to the list of great authors
[01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:36.000]  that need to be returned to education.
[01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.000]  I would pay attention to the list of heroes
[01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:40.000]  who also need to be returned to children
[01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.000]  and who need to be told.
[01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.000]  We were talking about it yesterday.
[01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:46.000]  I understand.
[01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:48.000]  Can we start with Ilya Yurievna?
[01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:50.000]  You know, this is some kind of
[01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:52.000]  pre-trial rhetoric.
[01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.000]  I have a personal question.
[01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.000]  Do you have a pre-trial?
[01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:58.000]  You seem to fit the age.
[01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.000]  I think they put you in a pre-trial.
[01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.000]  No, they don't.
[01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:04.000]  A video appeared on the Internet.
[01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:06.000]  I didn't want to share it.
[01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:08.000]  It appeared because
[01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:10.000]  one of the journalists made a rumor
[01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.000]  that I was seen on the border of Georgia.
[01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:14.000]  At that time, I was with the guys
[01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.000]  on the front line.
[01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.000]  I told them, guys, look at this situation.
[01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:20.000]  They said about me that I was on the border
[01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:22.000]  with Georgia.
[01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:24.000]  They said, you tricked everyone.
[01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.000]  You ran away from the war to the war.
[01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:28.000]  That's why I posted it.
[01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:30.000]  My colleagues said,
[01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:32.000]  how can I help you?
[01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.000]  Why didn't you take us?
[01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:36.000]  I said, there was only one place in the car.
[01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.000]  About the pre-trial, I'm sorry,
[01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:40.000]  but it's not for me.
[01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.000]  Don't scare me.
[01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:44.000]  I'll go if I have to.
[01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.000]  I don't scare you.
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.000]  I just think that this is your department
[01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:50.000]  that separates the rhetoric today.
[01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:52.000]  I don't understand why.
[01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:54.000]  Because these are distant discussions.
[01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:56.000]  They are not connected with our country.
[01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.000]  He was on the front line.
[01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.000]  How can you say that it doesn't
[01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:02.000]  relate to his position?
[01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:04.000]  He was there.
[01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.000]  He doesn't sit somewhere on the couch,
[01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.000]  in Telegram channel and so on.
[01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:10.000]  This is his understanding of today's reality.
[01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.000]  He says that when we win
[01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.000]  and all of them come back,
[01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.000]  we will forgive them.
[01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.000]  People should be cut off from resources,
[01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:20.000]  because they use our resources.
[01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.000]  Such a bad word.
[01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.000]  I didn't expect to hear it from you.
[01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.000]  They use our resources.
[01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.000]  Yes.
[01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:30.000]  If a person uses our resources,
[01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:32.000]  we should cover him with oxygen.
[01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:34.000]  This is normal.
[01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:36.000]  Do you remember Kolchak's words?
[01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:38.000]  Don't touch actors.
[01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:40.000]  I don't want to offend the most honest
[01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:42.000]  actors,
[01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:44.000]  who will never receive
[01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.000]  their honor.
[01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.000]  But it's clear that people
[01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:50.000]  don't care who they serve.
[01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:52.000]  No ideology, no punishments.
[01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.000]  The only way to solve this problem
[01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.000]  is to beat them in their pockets.
[01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:58.000]  As Maria suggested,
[01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.000]  the accounts are blocked,
[01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.000]  all resources are closed.
[01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:04.000]  Let's take Galkin's castle back.
[01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.000]  Wait, Alexei Gennadievich.
[01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:08.000]  We will make you live there.
[01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:10.000]  No.
[01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.000]  I'm afraid.
[01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:14.000]  There were suggestions
[01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:16.000]  where to put all these castles.
[01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:18.000]  I think it's not a stupid idea.
[01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:20.000]  We have such experience.
[01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:22.000]  I think
[01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:24.000]  we should
[01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.000]  put all these castles
[01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:28.000]  in the service of the Fatherland.
[01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.000]  Everything we can.
[01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:32.000]  Let's...
[01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:34.000]  Alexei Gennadievich,
[01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:36.000]  wait a second.
[01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:38.000]  Let's do it one by one.
[01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:40.000]  I was a tourist
[01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:42.000]  in America many times.
[01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:44.000]  I always saw the same picture
[01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:46.000]  when people in military uniforms
[01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.000]  appeared on the streets.
[01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:50.000]  Everyone was applauding.
[01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.000]  People in military uniforms
[01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:54.000]  were applauding.
[01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.000]  Regardless of
[01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.000]  what the US Army was doing,
[01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:00.000]  a citizen of this country...
[01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:02.000]  Let me finish.
[01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.000]  You want to hear it in context.
[01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.000]  I will tell you a simple thing.
[01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:08.000]  A citizen of a country
[01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:10.000]  should identify himself
[01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.000]  with his people
[01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:14.000]  and with his army
[01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:16.000]  during hard fighting.
[01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:18.000]  If a soldier
[01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.000]  goes there and dies there,
[01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:22.000]  he believes that he is supported.
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:24.000]  If we hypothetically
[01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:26.000]  imagined that all these artists
[01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.000]  would support the country,
[01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.000]  then,
[01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:32.000]  when it happened,
[01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.000]  they would win.
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:36.000]  Then they would express their opinions
[01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:38.000]  about what was good,
[01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.000]  what needed to be changed,
[01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:42.000]  how the mobilization was carried out.
[01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:44.000]  Badrov, a young man,
[01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:46.000]  said that when there is a war,
[01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.000]  one should never express it badly.
[01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.000]  We are talking about this support here.
[01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.000]  We should understand
[01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:54.000]  how big and serious
[01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:56.000]  the influence of any artist
[01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:58.000]  who was loved and respected
[01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:00.000]  by his or her position,
[01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:02.000]  either by his or her non-expression
[01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.000]  or by his or her negative position,
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.000]  on society and on these guys
[01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:08.000]  who are already going
[01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:10.000]  for a long time
[01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:12.000]  and they are giving their lives
[01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:14.000]  in a heroic way.
[01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:16.000]  We should understand this.
[01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:18.000]  We should think about it
[01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.000]  from the point of view of liberal values,
[01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:22.000]  human dogmas and so on.
[01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:24.000]  During hard times,
[01:39:24.000 --> 01:39:26.000]  we should make hard decisions
[01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:28.000]  whether we like it or not.
[01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:30.000]  I may be a pacifist like many others,
[01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:32.000]  but during hard times
[01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:34.000]  I make decisions for myself.
[01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:36.000]  Even if I have to sacrifice something,
[01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:38.000]  even if it will be hard for me,
[01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:40.000]  even if I lose everything,
[01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:42.000]  I will go with my people,
[01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:44.000]  I will go with my president,
[01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:46.000]  I will go with my country.
[01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.000]  When it will be over,
[01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:50.000]  we will figure it out.
[01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:52.000]  This is the most interesting part.
[01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:54.000]  I know two words.
[01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:56.000]  Kolchak didn't say such a phrase.
[01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:58.000]  But we are talking about it.
[01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:00.000]  What if we continue?
[01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:02.000]  What about teachers and doctors?
[01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:04.000]  Will you go to the doctor
[01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:06.000]  who takes the opposite position from you?
[01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.000]  What if we need a surgery?
[01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:10.000]  God forbid!
[01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:12.000]  What should we do then?
[01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:14.000]  Can I say something?
[01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.000]  No, help the doctor.
[01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:18.000]  No, no, no.
[01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:20.000]  The German doctor
[01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:22.000]  who treated me refused to treat me.
[01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.000]  He refused to treat you.
[01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:26.000]  But you had a choice.
[01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:28.000]  He refused to treat me.
[01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:30.000]  I wouldn't go to the doctor.
[01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:32.000]  He could have poisoned me.
[01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:34.000]  It's not about that.
[01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:36.000]  It's about not degrading
[01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:38.000]  the society.
[01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.000]  As for America,
[01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.000]  we have all seen
[01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:44.000]  the Forrest Gump rally.
[01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:46.000]  Hundreds of thousands of people
[01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:48.000]  were against the war.
[01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:50.000]  Hundreds of thousands of people
[01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:52.000]  were gathering in America
[01:40:52.000 --> 01:40:54.000]  against the war in Iraq.
[01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:56.000]  You don't compare the war.
[01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:58.000]  Wait a second.
[01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:00.000]  They were protesting
[01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:02.000]  against the war
[01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:04.000]  and their country.
[01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:06.000]  They were patriots.
[01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:08.000]  Yesterday the president told us
[01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:10.000]  an important thing.
[01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:12.000]  There is a civil war.
[01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:14.000]  Do we have the right
[01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:16.000]  or not to be patriots
[01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:18.000]  if we talk about the 1920s?
[01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:20.000]  It turned out that we don't.
[01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:22.000]  It turned out that some people
[01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:24.000]  love the country.
[01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.000]  People who don't agree
[01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:28.000]  with the special military operation
[01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.000]  can be mistaken.
[01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.000]  They don't have full information.
[01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:34.000]  They don't know the 3rd,
[01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:36.000]  5th and 10th.
[01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  I'll interrupt you.
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:40.000]  The problem is that
[01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:42.000]  there is a third party
[01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.000]  that appoints the right
[01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:46.000]  and the guilty.
[01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:48.000]  Let's continue.
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[01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:10.000]  There are no right and wrong.
[01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:12.000]  They are all right
[01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:14.000]  in their understanding of the situation.
[01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.000]  And I said that there is a third side
[01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:18.000]  that still appoints
[01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:20.000]  these right and wrong.
[01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.000]  A little more details.
[01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:24.000]  Last week,
[01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:26.000]  under the leadership of their former ambassador
[01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:28.000]  in Russia, Michael McFall,
[01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:30.000]  the USA made new sanctions lists.
[01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:32.000]  They included Nasidakova,
[01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:34.000]  Evgeny Petrosyan, Garek Harlamov,
[01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:36.000]  political observers Fedor Lukyanov
[01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:38.000]  and Andrey Sushentsov.
[01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:40.000]  McFall listed them all
[01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:42.000]  as Putin's propagandists.
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:44.000]  The list includes
[01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:46.000]  the opera singer Elena Obrostsova
[01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:48.000]  who died 7 years ago.
[01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:50.000]  The US Department of Finance
[01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:52.000]  introduced personal sanctions
[01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:54.000]  against the singer Jasmine.
[01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:56.000]  Kiev also updated the sanctions lists.
[01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:58.000]  They included Nasidakova,
[01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:00.000]  Anna Lorak,
[01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:02.000]  Taisiya Povali,
[01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:04.000]  Regina Todorenko.
[01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:06.000]  They imposed 15 restrictions
[01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:08.000]  for 5 years.
[01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:10.000]  They blocked assets,
[01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:12.000]  banned capital,
[01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:14.000]  bought land,
[01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.000]  annulled licenses and licenses
[01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:18.000]  and, most importantly,
[01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:20.000]  deprived Ukraine of state awards.
[01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:22.000]  American actor
[01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:24.000]  Steven Seagal was also involved.
[01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:26.000]  According to Newsweek,
[01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.000]  Seagal was forced to impose
[01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:30.000]  personal sanctions.
[01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.000]  This idea was sent to the US Secretary of State
[01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.000]  Blinken and the head of the European
[01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:36.000]  diplomacy, the former fascist Borel.
[01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:38.000]  Steven Seagal himself is now
[01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:40.000]  traveling around the Donbass
[01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:42.000]  and does not hide his friendly relations with Putin.
[01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:44.000]  I just think that
[01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:46.000]  we are living in very difficult times
[01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:48.000]  and this is one of the greatest
[01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:50.000]  world leaders and one of the greatest
[01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:52.000]  presidents in the world.
[01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:54.000]  I truly believe and pray
[01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:56.000]  that he receives the support,
[01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:58.000]  love and respect he needs.
[01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.000]  I believe that all the misfortunes
[01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:02.000]  that are happening now
[01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.000]  will soon end and we will live in peace.
[01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:08.000]  Such a real Buddhist.
[01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:10.000]  Vladimir Viktorovich, it turns out that
[01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:12.000]  even if we somehow find the strength
[01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:14.000]  of the mind to sort it out,
[01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:16.000]  to understand everyone, forgive everyone,
[01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:18.000]  still from somewhere outside
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:20.000]  there will be this
[01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.000]  mandatory section
[01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:24.000]  and in general, without determining
[01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:26.000]  your political position, it will not work.
[01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:28.000]  Well, it depends on what goals
[01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:30.000]  you set for yourself.
[01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.000]  If you want to earn somewhere
[01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:34.000]  outside the Russian Federation,
[01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:36.000]  then you need to swear to someone.
[01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:38.000]  Maybe I don't know something,
[01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:40.000]  but what is so terrible about the singer Jasmine,
[01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:42.000]  respected by all, beloved by Sarah Lvovna,
[01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:44.000]  made the Ministry of Finance of the United States
[01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:46.000]  that she was included in some sanctions lists.
[01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:48.000]  If you allow me, I will highlight
[01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:50.000]  two of my favorites.
[01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:52.000]  Fyodor Lukyanov, beloved by me,
[01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:54.000]  and Evgeny Petrosyan.
[01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.000]  Here it is more like a joke,
[01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.000]  but these are questions
[01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:00.000]  to the Ministry of Finance of the United States.
[01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:02.000]  No, this is not the Ministry of Finance,
[01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:04.000]  Petrosyan Lukyanov is in the list of McFoll.
[01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:06.000]  And Jasmine is with the Ministry of Finance.
[01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:08.000]  The McFoll list is a kind of
[01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:10.000]  a little bit of an act.
[01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:12.000]  Well, he's funny, he's funny.
[01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:14.000]  Well, in my opinion, he's a fool.
[01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:16.000]  Maybe he turned against Petrosyan,
[01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.000]  because Petrosyan went to our wounded guys
[01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:20.000]  when Fyodor Lukyanov and Evgeny Petrosyan were going.
[01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:22.000]  And the late Brasov.
[01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:26.000]  Yes, I'll get back to your question.
[01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:28.000]  Of course, they make their lists,
[01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:30.000]  we make our lists too.
[01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:32.000]  Here we do not interfere at all.
[01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.000]  And if we do not make our lists,
[01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.000]  will they stop too? No?
[01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:38.000]  The only question is what scale
[01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:40.000]  our lists will acquire.
[01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:42.000]  If what is already there,
[01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:44.000]  when a person goes for the flags,
[01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:46.000]  swims for the buoys and is recognized as a foreign agent,
[01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:48.000]  this is one story.
[01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:50.000]  But when we start to bring into this list
[01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:52.000]  all those who did not express themselves
[01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:54.000]  in support of the Russian Federation,
[01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:56.000]  this is where the problems should begin.
[01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:58.000]  Do you remember the Gradivtsi
[01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:00.000]  made a list of filmmakers and said
[01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:02.000]  they were silent?
[01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.000]  Yes, yes, yes.
[01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:06.000]  I am categorically against this.
[01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:08.000]  They went along the way,
[01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:10.000]  as in Ukraine, with the same Tadarenko.
[01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.000]  They are silent.
[01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.000]  What do they do?
[01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.000]  There is one very important fact.
[01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:18.000]  The fact is that
[01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:20.000]  in the situation with Steven Seagal,
[01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:22.000]  as well as in those very lists,
[01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:24.000]  we are talking about the imposition
[01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:26.000]  of restrictions on rights,
[01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:28.000]  about the imposition of sanctions
[01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:30.000]  on the citizens of the United States
[01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:32.000]  themselves.
[01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:34.000]  Think about it.
[01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.000]  Before that,
[01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:38.000]  such a precedent in history
[01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:40.000]  was met only once,
[01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:42.000]  during the times of extreme
[01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:44.000]  McCarthyism,
[01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.000]  when there was the Red Threat.
[01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:48.000]  I am not talking about Ukraine now.
[01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:50.000]  I am talking about the imaginary
[01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:52.000]  American list of McFolls,
[01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:54.000]  where there are citizens of the United States,
[01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:56.000]  people with dual citizenship,
[01:50:56.000 --> 01:50:58.000]  and Steven Seagal.
[01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:00.000]  This is actually a very serious
[01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:02.000]  and very important precedent.
[01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:04.000]  The United States is going to sanction
[01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:06.000]  and deprive their own citizens of their rights.
[01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.000]  This is a question of
[01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:10.000]  what stage we are at now
[01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:12.000]  and what the next stage will be.
[01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:14.000]  Excuse me,
[01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:16.000]  you pay so much attention to this,
[01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:18.000]  that I have only one answer
[01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:20.000]  to the continuation of your thought.
[01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:22.000]  In no case can we do the same.
[01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:24.000]  We have no lists.
[01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:26.000]  And in general,
[01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:28.000]  our whole conversation about
[01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:30.000]  how to sort it out with those
[01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:32.000]  who will come back later,
[01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:34.000]  how to figure out that they
[01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:36.000]  behaved incorrectly.
[01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:38.000]  Not because they behaved incorrectly.
[01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:40.000]  It means that we need to respond to the law.
[01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:42.000]  If you go there
[01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:44.000]  and earn money here,
[01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:46.000]  invest it in someone else's economy,
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:48.000]  no one is talking about
[01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:50.000]  taking away houses or anything else.
[01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:52.000]  Have you frozen your assets?
[01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:54.000]  Here you are, please, use it.
[01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:56.000]  So far, according to the law,
[01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:58.000]  there is no such law.
[01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:00.000]  If you live there and earn money there,
[01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:02.000]  there is no such law that corresponds to your request.
[01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:04.000]  And you are absolutely right.
[01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.000]  I said that if such a law was adopted,
[01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:08.000]  we need to adopt such a law.
[01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:10.000]  We need to sort it out.
[01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:12.000]  What do you think?
[01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:14.000]  We need to sort it out.
[01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:16.000]  Before I look at this question
[01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:18.000]  and see how this mechanism is implemented,
[01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:20.000]  I will not give you an opinion.
[01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:22.000]  But you yourself will not initiate such a law.
[01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:24.000]  Let's start with the fact
[01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:26.000]  that I worked out this question.
[01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:28.000]  Let's take a break
[01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:36.000]  and come back to the conclusion.
[01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:38.000]  At the doorstep of a 47-year-old Muscovite,
[01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:40.000]  an unfamiliar man,
[01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:42.000]  who had been in prison for 11 years,
[01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.000]  appeared and called himself her brother.
[01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:46.000]  He showed me his passport
[01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:48.000]  and told me that his last name was the same as mine.
[01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:50.000]  The woman remembers that her mother
[01:52:50.000 --> 01:52:52.000]  really had a third child,
[01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:54.000]  but only a girl.
[01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:56.000]  When I was 13, my mother was pregnant.
[01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:58.000]  She died in a maternity hospital.
[01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.000]  Her husband and her late sister
[01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:02.000]  did not intend to improve their relationship
[01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:04.000]  even with the positive result
[01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:06.000]  of the genetic examination.
[01:53:06.000 --> 01:53:08.000]  It is useless to contact him.
[01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:10.000]  Is it really his fault?
[01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:12.000]  An unknown brother appeared only for them.
[01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:14.000]  It is a three-room apartment.
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[01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:20.000]  I occupy 12 meters by five.
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[01:56:46.400 --> 01:56:52.900]  Who should understand and forgive whom?
[01:56:58.900 --> 01:57:03.400]  We have a question on NTV.
[01:57:03.400 --> 01:57:07.200]  In this situation, who should understand and forgive whom?
[01:57:07.200 --> 01:57:08.400]  Alexander Yakovlevich.
[01:57:08.400 --> 01:57:09.400]  I don't know.
[01:57:09.400 --> 01:57:13.200]  I just want to say that today there is a third world war.
[01:57:13.200 --> 01:57:15.000]  And you can't get away from it.
[01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:21.000]  And when my mother is raped, killed and destroyed,
[01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:24.400]  37 states have united.
[01:57:24.400 --> 01:57:27.900]  Yes, there is an English expression for forgiveness.
[01:57:27.900 --> 01:57:28.900]  Probably.
[01:57:28.900 --> 01:57:32.600]  But this is a degree of crime.
[01:57:32.600 --> 01:57:35.100]  We cannot measure what is happening today.
[01:57:35.100 --> 01:57:36.200]  I should not forgive.
[01:57:36.200 --> 01:57:38.400]  I don't care at all.
[01:57:38.400 --> 01:57:40.300]  They left, they will come back.
[01:57:40.300 --> 01:57:43.400]  Probably, the Russian people will forgive generously.
[01:57:43.400 --> 01:57:44.400]  But not to such an extent.
[01:57:44.400 --> 01:57:47.200]  When today comes to live or not to live.
[01:57:47.200 --> 01:57:48.200]  I understand you.
[01:57:48.200 --> 01:57:49.200]  Valeriy Valerievich.
[01:57:49.200 --> 01:57:53.000]  Those who are smarter and kinder should understand and forgive.
[01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.200]  And it seems to me that it is obvious to everyone that this is us.
[01:57:56.200 --> 01:57:57.800]  So, Elena Yuryevna.
[01:57:57.800 --> 01:58:00.400]  The question of forgiveness is a private, personal question.
[01:58:00.400 --> 01:58:03.000]  The state should not forgive anyone.
[01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:06.600]  The state should follow the principle of everything for the front, everything for victory.
[01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:08.200]  So, Alexei Gennadievich.
[01:58:08.200 --> 01:58:12.600]  The state, from my point of view, of course, should not interfere in this issue.
[01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:14.800]  It should do everything so that society does not split.
[01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:16.600]  And even more.
[01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:18.000]  And I agree with that.
[01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:21.800]  Of course, the one who is kinder will understand and forgive.
[01:58:21.800 --> 01:58:23.000]  So, Ascolt Valterievich.
[01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:25.200]  War is extreme.
[01:58:25.200 --> 01:58:30.200]  And kindness during the war is perceived only as weakness.
[01:58:30.200 --> 01:58:31.800]  No need to forgive anyone.
[01:58:31.800 --> 01:58:33.200]  So, Maria Valerievna.
[01:58:33.200 --> 01:58:36.400]  I think that we need to be guided by the principle of justice.
[01:58:36.400 --> 01:58:38.400]  Because this is what people want now.
[01:58:38.400 --> 01:58:41.000]  Therefore, if we talk about whether to forgive or not to forgive,
[01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:46.000]  I would put in the corner of my head whether it is fair or unfair.
[01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:48.000]  So, Vladimir Vladimirovich.
[01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:52.200]  Now, as it seems to me, is not the time to understand and forgive.
[01:58:52.200 --> 01:58:53.800]  Now is the time to act.
[01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:55.200]  The affairs speak for the person.
[01:58:55.200 --> 01:58:56.800]  And then we will see.
[01:58:56.800 --> 01:58:58.800]  We need to help the country and the army.
[01:58:58.800 --> 01:59:00.800]  You asked a question about forgiveness, Andrey Vladimirovich.
[01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:01.800]  And I started to think.
[01:59:01.800 --> 01:59:02.800]  This is not me. This is the editorial office.
[01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:03.800]  Well, can I...
[01:59:03.800 --> 01:59:05.400]  You asked. You asked it.
[01:59:05.400 --> 01:59:08.000]  Can I force someone to forgive?
[01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:09.600]  The concept may be.
[01:59:09.600 --> 01:59:11.600]  But it is impossible to force someone to forgive.
[01:59:11.600 --> 01:59:12.600]  But if you are convinced...
[01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:16.600]  Therefore, I cannot promise to forgive or understand anyone.
[01:59:16.600 --> 01:59:18.600]  So, you want to say that it is not possible to do it forcibly?
[01:59:18.600 --> 01:59:19.600]  Yes, that's right.
[01:59:19.600 --> 01:59:21.600]  But if you have an argument to prove it, then...
[01:59:21.600 --> 01:59:24.600]  It is still either you let it go or not.
[01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:27.600]  So, the story is that it is hard to forgive.
[01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:29.600]  And sometimes it is hard to understand.
[01:59:29.600 --> 01:59:32.600]  Moreover, in a completely calm and peaceful situation.
[01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:37.600]  Imagine, the Soviet Tbilisi.
[01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:39.600]  The Russian comes to the Georgian and says,
[01:59:39.600 --> 01:59:42.600]  Dear, I am sorry to interrupt you,
[01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:46.600]  but could you give me a minute of your precious attention
[01:59:46.600 --> 01:59:49.600]  and explain to me how to get to the avenue
[01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:53.600]  named after the great Georgian poet Shatar Rustaveli?
[01:59:53.600 --> 01:59:59.600]  Oh, dear, you asked so beautifully, so respectfully.
[01:59:59.600 --> 02:00:03.600]  I will answer you how you can get to the avenue of Rustaveli.
[02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:06.600]  You can do whatever you want.
[02:00:06.600 --> 02:00:08.600]  This was the place of the meeting that cannot be changed.
[02:00:08.600 --> 02:00:11.600]  We meet with you at 14 o'clock on weekdays on NTV.
[02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:37.600]  All the best to you, goodbye.
[02:00:37.600 --> 02:00:41.600]  Hello, on NTV News in the studio of Yegor Kolovanov.
[02:00:41.600 --> 02:00:45.600]  One of the main topics of the meeting is the Karabakh conflict.
[02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:47.600]  Armenia has declared its readiness
[02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:50.600]  to establish interstate relations with Azerbaijan.
[02:00:50.600 --> 02:00:52.600]  The USA continues to deny the involvement
[02:00:52.600 --> 02:00:54.600]  in the activities of Ukrainian bio-laboratories
[02:00:54.600 --> 02:00:57.600]  and calls the cooperation peaceful.
[02:00:57.600 --> 02:01:07.600]  Ukraine does not have a biological program.