Detecting language using up to the first 30 seconds. Use `--language` to specify the language Detected language: Bosnian [00:00.000 --> 00:09.000] Good evening, dear viewers. You are watching the show in Serbia on Vezija and I am Slavica Grigorović. [00:09.000 --> 00:16.000] The global IT economy is almost 60% faster than the rest of the economy, and in Serbia it is even 200%. [00:16.000 --> 00:21.000] In Serbia, there are a thousand and a half computer companies that supply about 15,000 people. [00:21.000 --> 00:35.000] It is not a matter of whether the sector is moving forward or not. It is also known that Serbia has exceptional shareholders in that area, as well as that many top shareholders left the country, because they could not find a job here, or they worked for a significantly lower salary. [00:35.000 --> 00:45.000] What does the IT market look like in Serbia? Can Serbia, with regard to the fact that there is potential, become the IT center of the region? We will talk about that tonight with our guests. [00:45.000 --> 00:56.000] This is Milan Janković, director of the RATEL, Aleksandar Kostić-Ljubisavljivić, professor at the university, and Milovan Mativić, IT analyst. [00:56.000 --> 01:01.000] Good evening and welcome. Thank you for inviting us to participate in our show. [01:01.000 --> 01:09.000] At the beginning, did Serbia have a chance to become the IT center of the region? Some kind of Silicon Valley of the Balkans. [01:09.000 --> 01:26.000] Considering the situation that the market of telecommunications in Serbia is about 5% GDP, and that it is a billion and a half euros only in the services, in any case, there is still a lot of space and the opportunity for young entrepreneurs to bring further development of this region. [01:26.000 --> 01:30.000] Aleksandar, when it comes to education, do we have that potential? [01:30.000 --> 01:42.000] Absolutely, I think that there was no doubt about the potential we have, with the previous education system and with the new education system, which is related to high school, the potential we have. [01:42.000 --> 01:46.000] Milovan, did you have some analysis that you published? [01:46.000 --> 01:53.000] Yes, analysis shows that the potential is huge, but that the opportunity is even greater than that. [01:53.000 --> 02:05.000] So, when we talk about the future of the IT map of Europe or the IT regional center, we can say that it is definitely a geographical and geometrical center of the region, [02:05.000 --> 02:16.000] but our region shares the fate of the information sector of the entire region, and in that correlation it has not remained. [02:16.000 --> 02:27.000] However, when we talk about the total information market of Serbia, for example, the information market of the Netherlands, the information market of the Netherlands is 18.5 billion euros, [02:27.000 --> 02:33.000] and according to our analysis, the market of Serbia is 423 million euros, it was in 2011. [02:33.000 --> 02:36.000] So, we have not reached neither the Netherlands nor the Netherlands. [02:36.000 --> 02:40.000] But one more thing, that is not our specificity, but the specificity of the region. [02:40.000 --> 02:49.000] Serbia has weaker market than Hungary and Croatia, but the better market, the information market of Bosnia, Herzegovina, Montenegro, Macedonia, Romania and Bulgaria. [02:49.000 --> 02:52.000] Now, let's see if there is an investor. [02:52.000 --> 02:59.000] For example, at the beginning of the year, in the morning, a long-revealed realization of the largest investment in the information sector of Serbia begins. [02:59.000 --> 03:11.000] With the construction of an informatic technological park on the surface of 25,000 square meters, in which, as it will be announced, the company will find about 15,000 investors. [03:11.000 --> 03:17.000] The value of the investment is about 600 million euros, and in the first phase of the realization of this project, it will be invested about 40 million euros. [03:17.000 --> 03:21.000] That is what the president of the embassy group, DG2 VIRVANI, said. [03:21.000 --> 03:26.000] The whole idea is that to build this park in the first phase. [03:26.000 --> 03:31.000] The project will consist of several phases, and the construction will be carried out in accordance with one of the most modern standards in this region. [03:31.000 --> 03:36.000] It is planned that the first phase will be completed in the second quarter of 2013. [03:36.000 --> 03:43.000] The project includes the construction of a 25,000 square meter office area, with four-story buildings. [03:43.000 --> 03:51.000] It is expected that this park in the next five years could be expanded to 250,000 square meters of the office area. [03:52.000 --> 03:57.000] This step is ahead of our hard and dedicated expansion, as well as to our global customers. [03:57.000 --> 04:10.000] Based on our rich experience in India, we are convinced that this business park, the first-ever in Serbia, will ensure the environment in which the great international companies will be able to position their knowledge center on both sides, [04:10.000 --> 04:13.000] using the industry as local investors. [04:13.000 --> 04:20.000] I am sure that this will be one element that will make us attractive for the great world companies, [04:20.000 --> 04:26.000] which are looking for destinations for expanding their businesses, looking for people who will be able to do different jobs, [04:26.000 --> 04:30.000] different segments of their business, all over the world. [04:30.000 --> 04:36.000] And that this will be an opportunity for our young people to find high-quality, well-paid businesses in the industry, [04:36.000 --> 04:40.000] in the economy, and to stay alive in Serbia. [04:40.000 --> 04:48.000] From today, we have positioned ourselves much better on the world map of the ICT industry, [04:48.000 --> 04:54.000] and in the segment where the IRISC has been an unsuitable leader in attracting ICT companies, [04:54.000 --> 05:00.000] I am sure that today we are presenting a more serious competition. [05:00.000 --> 05:05.000] This has already been announced for five years, I suggest that you follow it all. [05:05.000 --> 05:08.000] What do you think? Do you have a chance to live? [05:08.000 --> 05:10.000] Well, we are closer to the realisation. [05:10.000 --> 05:14.000] First of all, this plant was planted in September 2007, [05:14.000 --> 05:19.000] and from a certain dynamic of year to year and a half, this plant recycles. [05:19.000 --> 05:27.000] I mean, let's say, with a lot of enthusiasm, I followed how the story of 2007 came about, [05:27.000 --> 05:33.000] what happened next year, but years have passed, and we have reached that point. [05:33.000 --> 05:43.000] I hope that tomorrow, the Orthodox and Indian priests will help this investment to live fully mobile. [05:43.000 --> 05:47.000] Do you really think that this will be the way that all those children who are in school, [05:47.000 --> 05:50.000] since last year, out of the number of 5,000 students, [05:50.000 --> 05:54.000] have been assigned to some of the students who have connections with this sector? [05:54.000 --> 05:59.000] Do you have a chance to stay here to work, and at the same time, to earn a living, [05:59.000 --> 06:01.000] so that they don't have to add anything? [06:01.000 --> 06:06.000] Well, if that really is realized, it is obvious that the basis for such an idea and such an idea [06:06.000 --> 06:08.000] can actually be. [06:08.000 --> 06:10.000] Now we will see how much the realisation will be, [06:10.000 --> 06:14.000] what their abilities are, and they are certainly competent to work in such places. [06:14.000 --> 06:16.000] It is not a dispute. [06:16.000 --> 06:18.000] Just to see if we will have an opportunity. [06:18.000 --> 06:24.000] Well, Mr. Irvani has commented on the fact that India really has a great potential for a priest, [06:24.000 --> 06:29.000] that simply because of the basic reasons why they decided to invest here, [06:29.000 --> 06:33.000] plan to invest 600 million euros, [06:33.000 --> 06:36.000] precisely those of our priests. [06:36.000 --> 06:39.000] And where do we all have schools, young IT priests? [06:39.000 --> 06:42.000] How did we see, in fact, the example of children from the Mathematics Gymnasium [06:42.000 --> 06:48.000] passed through the students, so that they all come to some first places with various social institutions? [06:48.000 --> 06:53.000] Well, you know how it is, in any case, traditional old state universities, [06:53.000 --> 06:55.000] when I say old, I mean, just according to their traditions, [06:55.000 --> 07:00.000] which have already been proven in the first place, that schools are highly qualified. [07:00.000 --> 07:02.000] And that is not the case. [07:02.000 --> 07:07.000] There are now more and more private universities that also have schools, [07:07.000 --> 07:10.000] some of them from the ICT region. [07:10.000 --> 07:12.000] Well, now they can show themselves, [07:12.000 --> 07:15.000] the fact that the reputation that the state universities have, [07:15.000 --> 07:19.000] is not something that can be forgotten and forgotten. [07:19.000 --> 07:22.000] We will see if they can be, possibly, a competition, [07:22.000 --> 07:27.000] but the essence is that they all have a place and knowledge, [07:27.000 --> 07:30.000] skills to show, all that they have learned, [07:30.000 --> 07:32.000] and they have a place to invest. [07:32.000 --> 07:34.000] If they have it in Serbia, that's good. [07:34.000 --> 07:36.000] If not, they all have a place to invest. [07:36.000 --> 07:40.000] Has anyone of our students followed all the world events in that regard? [07:40.000 --> 07:43.000] Well, in these faculties, which will be more dominant here, [07:43.000 --> 07:47.000] that is, let's say, the technical faculties of different classes, [07:47.000 --> 07:49.000] probably there should be an economic law, [07:49.000 --> 07:51.000] that is, now everything is multidisciplinary, [07:51.000 --> 07:53.000] it is not possible to only look at it with technology, [07:53.000 --> 07:55.000] this is still a big obligation, [07:55.000 --> 07:58.000] and before our high school institutions, [07:58.000 --> 08:00.000] if we talk about these programs, [08:00.000 --> 08:03.000] and that in the next period everything is very difficult, [08:03.000 --> 08:07.000] but in any case, if you set such a goal, [08:07.000 --> 08:09.000] it will be the interest of the younger generation [08:09.000 --> 08:11.000] to study these faculties. [08:11.000 --> 08:13.000] But you follow the same courses, [08:13.000 --> 08:15.000] do you follow the same courses in the world? [08:15.000 --> 08:17.000] Well, we pay these obligations and, [08:17.000 --> 08:19.000] let's say, the World Mobile Congress, [08:19.000 --> 08:21.000] which was in Barcelona, [08:21.000 --> 08:24.000] it means that they have to follow as much as they want in this area, [08:24.000 --> 08:26.000] to know what is happening, [08:26.000 --> 08:28.000] and after that, some strategic things, [08:28.000 --> 08:30.000] you have to move forward in that way. [08:30.000 --> 08:34.000] In Las Vegas, there is currently one of the biggest [08:34.000 --> 08:36.000] world events in that area, [08:36.000 --> 08:38.000] and we at Vezib should have [08:38.000 --> 08:40.000] Professor Dr. Mihajla Nedeljković. [08:40.000 --> 08:42.000] Good evening. [08:42.000 --> 08:44.000] Good evening. [08:44.000 --> 08:47.000] Professor Nedeljković, have you been to that event? [08:47.000 --> 08:49.000] Have I been to the event? [08:49.000 --> 08:51.000] Yes. [08:51.000 --> 08:53.000] Who told me about this in Las Vegas? [08:53.000 --> 08:54.000] Yes, yes. [08:54.000 --> 08:57.000] Well, you know, I started every year in 30 years, [08:57.000 --> 09:00.000] I only went there last year and I was in Zavica. [09:00.000 --> 09:05.000] Well, now we are making a comparison, [09:05.000 --> 09:07.000] where we are, [09:07.000 --> 09:09.000] in relation to the world, when it comes to the collapse, [09:09.000 --> 09:11.000] and how much is the objective chance that Serbia [09:11.000 --> 09:13.000] becomes the IT center of the region, [09:13.000 --> 09:16.000] that is, the Silicon Valley of the Balkans? [09:16.000 --> 09:18.000] I don't know. [09:18.000 --> 09:21.000] From those program ideas, [09:21.000 --> 09:24.000] I haven't had enough of that, [09:24.000 --> 09:27.000] but I'm familiar with all the known versions, [09:27.000 --> 09:30.000] I'm doing my communication technology mainly [09:30.000 --> 09:32.000] with the world. [09:32.000 --> 09:35.000] But I lost contact a little in the last year, [09:35.000 --> 09:37.000] lost contact with that, [09:37.000 --> 09:39.000] in the last 30 years, [09:39.000 --> 09:42.000] how to say, with the European team, [09:42.000 --> 09:44.000] with those ideas. [09:44.000 --> 09:46.000] It would be very difficult for one country to be able, [09:46.000 --> 09:48.000] it could be to find something, [09:48.000 --> 09:53.000] to say, some angle from which it could be done, [09:53.000 --> 10:07.000] But you know, this is the project of Trabiz and film and mass communication, which gives you the latest ideas, the latest inventions and all the fields. [10:07.000 --> 10:12.000] I would like someone to transfer this technology. [10:12.000 --> 10:18.000] You could say that it could happen, but you need to know the plan, which is the target. [10:18.000 --> 10:24.000] This is the main topic at the moment, which is shifting content. [10:24.000 --> 10:28.000] The change in content is taking place. [10:28.000 --> 10:32.000] The technology has reached a certain level, the third dimension. [10:32.000 --> 10:35.000] You have it on TV, on film and mass communication. [10:35.000 --> 10:38.000] This is the main technology and access. [10:38.000 --> 10:40.000] This is also a technical project. [10:40.000 --> 10:47.000] This technology is for content content. [10:47.000 --> 10:55.000] You can use software, computer systems, visual programs. [10:55.000 --> 10:56.000] This is the third dimension. [10:56.000 --> 10:59.000] The main thing is the dominance of shifting content. [10:59.000 --> 11:01.000] This is the change in content. [11:01.000 --> 11:09.000] This is what you know about the internet, on the internet, on the internet. [11:09.000 --> 11:16.000] One of the things we are talking about tonight is why is the shift so much like the one in Serbia? [11:16.000 --> 11:19.000] First of all, I want to ask you why did you go to Serbia? [11:19.000 --> 11:28.000] I came here in 1970 and 1980 at the postgraduate studies. [11:28.000 --> 11:33.000] I finished the postgraduate studies. [11:33.000 --> 11:37.000] Then I stayed in different places. [11:37.000 --> 11:39.000] I was in the US. [11:39.000 --> 11:42.000] I was in the US when I was in Japan. [11:42.000 --> 11:45.000] I didn't go back to the US. [11:45.000 --> 11:47.000] This is normal. [11:47.000 --> 11:54.000] You have to make something that is extremely higher than normal. [11:54.000 --> 11:59.000] Then you have to go to places where you can do it. [11:59.000 --> 12:04.000] Do you have a lot of colleagues from Turkey who are also in the US at the faculty? [12:04.000 --> 12:13.000] Do you have a lot of colleagues from Turkey who are also in the US at the faculty or in the companies in Serbia? [12:13.000 --> 12:18.000] I don't think I have that much. [12:18.000 --> 12:23.000] I see a lot of young people here and there. [12:23.000 --> 12:26.000] I am not an engineer. [12:26.000 --> 12:29.000] I work in other areas. [12:29.000 --> 12:36.000] There are a lot of young people here and there. [12:36.000 --> 12:40.000] There are also a lot of young people here and there. [12:40.000 --> 12:44.000] There you can find our colleagues. [12:44.000 --> 12:48.000] I know our professors from the field of mass communication, [12:48.000 --> 12:51.000] theory, history, film and television. [12:51.000 --> 12:53.000] Maybe there are two or three of them. [12:53.000 --> 13:01.000] Do you want to go back to Serbia and work here as an American? [13:01.000 --> 13:04.000] That's a very complicated question. [13:04.000 --> 13:07.000] I dreamt that I would do that. [13:07.000 --> 13:12.000] I dreamt that it would be around my area. [13:12.000 --> 13:14.000] I don't know if that's just about Serbia. [13:14.000 --> 13:24.000] If you look at the things you are doing, you have 100,000 people who are bringing their new equipment and showing what they are thinking. [13:24.000 --> 13:29.000] You can decide whether you have a place to live or how you want to live. [13:29.000 --> 13:37.000] But if you do, you will most likely not let it go and sit at a different level. [13:37.000 --> 13:39.000] That's the question of the community. [13:39.000 --> 13:47.000] But if that's the case for the next 20-30 years, it might be possible. [13:47.000 --> 13:50.000] Thank you for the end of the show. [13:50.000 --> 13:53.000] We heard that they didn't come back. [13:53.000 --> 13:59.000] Is it just about the payment or the possibility to follow the flow? [13:59.000 --> 14:01.000] How long have we been here? [14:01.000 --> 14:05.000] From the point of view of all the communication technologies we have, [14:05.000 --> 14:10.000] there is no longer a problem of monitoring all the things that are happening in the world. [14:10.000 --> 14:15.000] And that's why our partners here are able to follow everything that is happening in the world. [14:15.000 --> 14:18.000] That's what we have been able to do. [14:18.000 --> 14:22.000] The services are now available to everyone. [14:22.000 --> 14:28.000] You don't have to be in America right now to be able to learn something about production and basic technology. [14:28.000 --> 14:33.000] But this is an application to say that this is the right way to follow the data. [14:33.000 --> 14:39.000] In Belgrade, it is based on a national mission for a broad access to the Internet and digital development. [14:39.000 --> 14:44.000] The mission will be based on the universal access to the Internet, [14:44.000 --> 14:50.000] which will be used by 40 people to Bačinstava in 2015 in Serbia [14:50.000 --> 14:54.000] as well as the new model of delivery of the private sector that will be able to do so. [14:54.000 --> 14:58.000] Colleague Biljana Jovičić talked about the broad access to the Internet [14:58.000 --> 15:05.000] and she spoke with the General Secretary of the International Telecommunications Union, Hamadon Tureum. [15:05.000 --> 15:11.000] In what way would Serbia be able to increase the number of users of the broad access to the Internet [15:11.000 --> 15:14.000] and how late we will be on that field? [15:14.000 --> 15:20.000] The last indicator that was announced in 2011 by the International Telecommunications Commission [15:20.000 --> 15:27.000] said that Serbia made a significant contribution in the sense of the expansion of the broad access to the Internet. [15:27.000 --> 15:32.000] Serbia, with 6% of the monthly payments, as well as the cost of the broad access to the Internet, [15:32.000 --> 15:37.000] has reached 3%, which is lower than the European average, which is 3.5%. [15:37.000 --> 15:41.000] And with the new National Commission, which is formed, [15:41.000 --> 15:46.000] I believe that you will have a great impact on access and you will see positive effects of the broad access to the Internet, [15:46.000 --> 15:56.000] because, for example, 10% of the access to the Internet will reach at least 1.3% of the social gross production. [15:56.000 --> 16:02.000] What are the specific uses of the broad access to the Internet when we talk about creating human rights? [16:02.000 --> 16:06.000] More access to the Internet gives opportunity for governments to be more transparent. [16:06.000 --> 16:10.000] More access to the Internet gives the ability for the government to work more transparently. [16:10.000 --> 16:14.000] It also gives more access to citizens and gives citizens more power, [16:14.000 --> 16:17.000] for example, with the revolution in the Arab world. [16:17.000 --> 16:21.000] We also see great opportunities for citizens to create their own rights, [16:21.000 --> 16:27.000] such as rights to access information, which is human use, similar to basic human rights, [16:27.000 --> 16:33.000] because with that you will have more opportunity to create human rights. [16:33.000 --> 16:39.000] What will we actually get from the broad access to the Internet? [16:39.000 --> 16:44.000] Well, this is the activity that the government between the National Union for Telecommunication [16:44.000 --> 16:51.000] and the National Union for which Mr. Turego spoke, in order to enable the development of the future, [16:51.000 --> 16:56.000] i.e. the future activities related to the broad access to the Internet. [16:56.000 --> 17:02.000] The future must be reflected in all that to reduce the digital divide for which Mr. Turego spoke, [17:02.000 --> 17:05.000] i.e. between developed and unredeveloped countries, [17:05.000 --> 17:10.000] because it was shown that increasing the broad access to the Internet for some 10% [17:10.000 --> 17:14.000] increases the GDP of the state for 1.3%. [17:14.000 --> 17:18.000] For 2% to 3%, productivity between 5% and 10%, [17:18.000 --> 17:21.000] and emission of protective gases decreases by 10%. [17:21.000 --> 17:26.000] And all of that affects the system of innovation and the development of new services. [17:26.000 --> 17:29.000] That is something that should be possible in the next period, [17:29.000 --> 17:33.000] increasing the flow, i.e. the speed between 30 megabits, [17:33.000 --> 17:38.000] and then taking over the broad access services, i.e. film content, [17:38.000 --> 17:40.000] which Sparanija talked about earlier, [17:40.000 --> 17:43.000] the view of the conference, the documentation, the publication, [17:43.000 --> 17:46.000] i.e. you should have a great speed of flow for that. [17:46.000 --> 17:50.000] And that is what the goal of the Government of the Republic of Serbia is, [17:50.000 --> 17:54.000] in a certain way, to build a national broad access network in the Republic of Serbia, [17:54.000 --> 17:56.000] about what to talk about now. [17:56.000 --> 18:00.000] We, as the Republic of the Agency, have started certain activities here, [18:00.000 --> 18:04.000] and the government has formed a commission that should bring forth the decision-making, [18:04.000 --> 18:09.000] or something that should help the development of the Republic of Serbia. [18:09.000 --> 18:12.000] Without that, and the decision-making of all the infrastructure systems, [18:12.000 --> 18:16.000] it will be difficult to make that happen in the modern world, [18:16.000 --> 18:18.000] with a broad access network. [18:18.000 --> 18:21.000] When you say the inclusion of infrastructure systems, what do you think? [18:21.000 --> 18:25.000] I think that all the existing infrastructure that the Republic of Serbia has [18:25.000 --> 18:28.000] in various public institutions, [18:28.000 --> 18:34.000] that the optical network is possible, is located with it, [18:34.000 --> 18:38.000] but that it includes the inclusion of the service, the broad access service, [18:38.000 --> 18:39.000] to the final citizens. [18:39.000 --> 18:42.000] And what exactly will the specific use of the citizens have? [18:42.000 --> 18:43.000] For example, in some way? [18:43.000 --> 18:45.000] Well, we want it to be decided in a certain way. [18:45.000 --> 18:48.000] We have all these services, health care, education, [18:48.000 --> 18:52.000] ePrivreda, the voting that we will have now, [18:52.000 --> 18:54.000] and so on, you can check it yourself. [18:54.000 --> 18:58.000] I mean, because our market is liberalized, led by the competition in all sectors, [18:58.000 --> 19:02.000] that is what needs to be done to develop this society. [19:02.000 --> 19:07.000] Well, it is clear that both the Eftinian industry and the profitability of others, [19:07.000 --> 19:11.000] and its development should be set up for the development of the brain. [19:11.000 --> 19:13.000] So, how do you know that? [19:13.000 --> 19:17.000] So, all the time, it is clear that we are talking about the same story over the years. [19:17.000 --> 19:20.000] We have strings, we have the brain, [19:20.000 --> 19:25.000] and we are in the middle of it. In essence, there are not so many big investments [19:25.000 --> 19:28.000] in that sector, but in what is the problem? [19:28.000 --> 19:29.000] Well, there is no problem. [19:29.000 --> 19:32.000] I mean, the rise of the broad Internet creates this new infrastructure, [19:32.000 --> 19:34.000] where time and space are short. [19:34.000 --> 19:37.000] I mean, there is no longer that distance we had in the previous period. [19:37.000 --> 19:42.000] So, it will help the investment in this infrastructure to reduce brain damage. [19:42.000 --> 19:45.000] That is to say, the same thing applies to some factors. [19:45.000 --> 19:50.000] We are talking about brain damage, that is, brain damage in Serbia has existed for many decades, [19:50.000 --> 19:53.000] and there were various reasons for that. [19:53.000 --> 19:57.000] I can tell you a specific example from the 90s, [19:57.000 --> 20:00.000] when my generation came to the United States, [20:00.000 --> 20:03.000] in the 85- and 66-year-old action on the Electro-Technical Faculty [20:03.000 --> 20:06.000] it was accepted somewhere around 50 employees in various projects, [20:06.000 --> 20:11.000] and that action was called the spread of 2000 scientists up to 2000 years. [20:11.000 --> 20:15.000] With my group, where I was engaged, from the 17th of January, [20:15.000 --> 20:18.000] 12 to the 92nd year ended in America. [20:18.000 --> 20:21.000] And now, when we look at statistics of my generation, [20:21.000 --> 20:23.000] because I have a lot of good contracts, [20:23.000 --> 20:27.000] from a generation that has counted 120 engineers, [20:27.000 --> 20:30.000] 10 is the Doctor of Science and Science, [20:30.000 --> 20:32.000] 2 is the Doctor of Science in Serbia, [20:32.000 --> 20:34.000] 7 is the Professor in America, [20:34.000 --> 20:36.000] 2 in Europe and 1 in Canada. [20:36.000 --> 20:42.000] Let's say that the reason for that was in all the events of the 90s, [20:42.000 --> 20:46.000] where the course of the 80s started from 2000 scientists up to 2000 years, [20:46.000 --> 20:50.000] up to 2000 scientists in the United States after 2000 years. [20:50.000 --> 20:53.000] You certainly have a colleague who came with you. [20:53.000 --> 20:54.000] Well, yes, of course. [20:54.000 --> 20:56.000] You are a younger generation. [20:56.000 --> 20:57.000] Yes, yes, there is. [20:57.000 --> 20:59.000] And it has become quite normal here. [20:59.000 --> 21:01.000] And that is not a sensation anymore. [21:01.000 --> 21:03.000] I grew up in a factory, [21:03.000 --> 21:08.000] because it is normal to finish a university and go through the border [21:08.000 --> 21:11.000] to be able to live from that very city. [21:11.000 --> 21:14.000] So, a person can completely do what he has done, [21:14.000 --> 21:17.000] to do a field in which he is completely exhausted. [21:17.000 --> 21:20.000] I think that there should be a little more calculation [21:20.000 --> 21:23.000] about, of course, I think everything is still a quarter of the financing, [21:23.000 --> 21:26.000] but only that investment in the frames, [21:26.000 --> 21:29.000] frames that young people grow up in school, [21:29.000 --> 21:34.000] in schools, in education, look, you have faculties that do not have a laboratory. [21:34.000 --> 21:37.000] And you do not have the opportunity to show that student [21:37.000 --> 21:40.000] that you are talking to him, that you are teaching him theoretically, [21:40.000 --> 21:43.000] that you draw him on the tables, that you show him some slides, [21:43.000 --> 21:46.000] some pictures, you make some ends, [21:46.000 --> 21:49.000] you do not have the opportunity to show how it really looks. [21:49.000 --> 21:52.000] That is all the intention with the help of a pen and a pen. [21:52.000 --> 21:55.000] How much effort, how much effort has been made to show, [21:55.000 --> 21:58.000] to get some equipment that will show the moment how it looks. [21:58.000 --> 22:01.000] It happens that you have a person who finishes his faculty, [22:01.000 --> 22:04.000] who sees him directly, who knows fantastically. [22:04.000 --> 22:06.000] You just need someone to show him his face and say, [22:06.000 --> 22:08.000] that's it, that's it. [22:08.000 --> 22:10.000] It is a very difficult way of teaching if you do not have the opportunity. [22:10.000 --> 22:13.000] Yes, and with such things, when students meet, [22:13.000 --> 22:16.000] they still show some knowledge and know how to do it. [22:16.000 --> 22:19.000] Do you have anyone among those who went, [22:19.000 --> 22:21.000] let's say those who are very successful? [22:21.000 --> 22:23.000] We have now seen this child. [22:23.000 --> 22:26.000] Surely there are successful business people in that class, [22:26.000 --> 22:28.000] who are willing to invest here. [22:28.000 --> 22:32.000] In any case, look, we will be able to return those people [22:32.000 --> 22:36.000] and those who are now finishing their studies here, [22:36.000 --> 22:39.000] if in this way some projects will take place in the long-term period. [22:39.000 --> 22:42.000] Because there is no reason, if you have a family here, [22:42.000 --> 22:46.000] you live in a relative family, there is no reason to see [22:46.000 --> 22:50.000] where you are now, to say the citizens of some other country. [22:50.000 --> 22:53.000] In the previous period, in the previous 20 years, [22:53.000 --> 22:57.000] in this area of ​​telecommunication, there were various reasons for leaving. [22:57.000 --> 23:01.000] If these projects were realized, we would not be able to, [23:01.000 --> 23:05.000] everyone who is a diplomat, to start here will stay here. [23:05.000 --> 23:08.000] There will be no capacity for anyone to finish, [23:08.000 --> 23:11.000] so there will be no need, but at the end of the year, [23:11.000 --> 23:13.000] we are now in the competition with Europe, [23:13.000 --> 23:15.000] which is also in a small business. [23:15.000 --> 23:17.000] Our people have left for Australia, New Zealand, [23:17.000 --> 23:19.000] New Zealand for the time being. [23:19.000 --> 23:22.000] Now I can do that in India, it would be very good. [23:22.000 --> 23:26.000] Thank you for being in our show. [23:26.000 --> 23:55.000] Thank you for your attention and stay tuned. [23:56.000 --> 23:58.000] 1. [23:58.000 --> 24:00.000] 2. [24:00.000 --> 24:02.000] 3. [24:02.000 --> 24:04.000] 4. [24:04.000 --> 24:06.000] 5. [24:06.000 --> 24:08.000] 6. [24:08.000 --> 24:10.000] 7. [24:10.000 --> 24:12.000] 8. [24:12.000 --> 24:14.000] 9. [24:14.000 --> 24:16.000] 10. [24:16.000 --> 24:18.000] 11. [24:18.000 --> 24:20.000] 12. [24:20.000 --> 24:22.000] 13. [24:22.000 --> 24:24.000] 14. [24:54.000 --> 24:57.000] THE END [25:24.000 --> 25:30.000] And how could it be? [25:30.000 --> 25:35.000] And if you leave, [25:35.000 --> 25:38.000] something you know, [25:38.000 --> 25:43.000] you will stay. [25:43.000 --> 25:46.000] It's not love, [25:46.000 --> 25:49.000] to be you, [25:49.000 --> 25:52.000] just look at it, [25:52.000 --> 25:55.000] I've always loved you. [25:55.000 --> 25:58.000] It's not love, [25:58.000 --> 26:01.000] so I don't know what I'll dream of. [26:01.000 --> 26:04.000] I wish you all the best. [26:04.000 --> 26:07.000] This love is only mine, [26:07.000 --> 26:32.000] I wish you all the best. [26:32.000 --> 26:35.000] It's not love, [26:35.000 --> 26:38.000] to be you, [26:38.000 --> 26:41.000] just look at it, [26:41.000 --> 26:44.000] I've always loved you. [26:44.000 --> 26:47.000] It's not love, [26:47.000 --> 26:50.000] so I don't know what I'll dream of. [26:50.000 --> 26:53.000] I wish you all the best. [26:53.000 --> 26:56.000] This love is only mine, [26:56.000 --> 26:59.000] I wish you all the best. [26:59.000 --> 27:02.000] And if you leave, [27:02.000 --> 27:05.000] something you know, [27:05.000 --> 27:08.000] you will stay. [27:08.000 --> 27:11.000] It's not love, [27:11.000 --> 27:14.000] so I don't know what I'll dream of. [27:14.000 --> 27:17.000] I wish you all the best. [27:17.000 --> 27:21.000] This love is only mine, [27:21.000 --> 27:30.000] I wish you all the best. [27:51.000 --> 27:54.000] This love is only mine, [27:54.000 --> 28:23.000] I wish you all the best. [28:24.000 --> 28:27.000] It's not love, [28:27.000 --> 28:30.000] so I don't know what I'll dream of. [28:30.000 --> 28:32.000] I wish you all the best. [28:32.000 --> 28:35.000] This love is only mine, [28:35.000 --> 28:38.000] I wish you all the best. [28:38.000 --> 28:41.000] This love is only mine, [28:41.000 --> 28:44.000] I wish you all the best. [28:44.000 --> 28:47.000] This love is only mine, [28:47.000 --> 28:49.000] I wish you all the best. [28:49.000 --> 28:51.000] And if you leave, [29:21.000 --> 29:44.000] Our dear friends, get ready for the beginning of the 26th camp in the 73rd cycle, welcome to the evening, and this is our evening camp and our south camp, Ozem Katic. [29:44.000 --> 29:52.000] If you have watched our viewers, if you have watched Slaglic, if you have seen these days, if you have met them, this is your fifth. [29:52.000 --> 29:54.000] You have already forgotten how many you are there. [29:54.000 --> 29:57.000] So four wins, you will have a good foundation for the fourth final, right? [29:57.000 --> 29:58.000] I hope so. [29:58.000 --> 29:59.000] See you very next evening. [29:59.000 --> 30:09.000] Good night.