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[00:00.000 --> 00:22.000]  After 10 hours of negotiations at night, it was finally clear in the morning with a crisis package for the crisis-stricken Euro-countries.
[00:22.000 --> 00:31.000]  And it was a tired French president who came out this morning and said that they did not agree that Greece's debts should be written off by half.
[00:31.000 --> 00:53.000]  This will be done by a voluntary agreement with private creditors, of which we discussed the parameters with their representatives.
[00:53.000 --> 01:02.000]  But private creditors have given up half of the debt they own.
[01:02.000 --> 01:04.000]  Good morning, Rolf Fredriksson.
[01:04.000 --> 01:05.000]  Good morning.
[01:05.000 --> 01:10.000]  You looked tired, but it turned out to be an agreement in the end. What did you come to?
[01:10.000 --> 01:26.000]  Even though it looked like it would not be that much last night, this is what has been speculated about since Sunday.
[01:26.000 --> 01:32.000]  They say that they have achieved a lot. The numbers are so big.
[01:32.000 --> 01:42.000]  1 billion euros in Sweden. Joakim von Anka numbers.
[01:42.000 --> 01:46.000]  But they have come to something that they have put some numbers on.
[01:46.000 --> 01:52.000]  The French president said that they have negotiated with the private banks and they have agreed to halve the debts.
[01:52.000 --> 01:59.000]  You should remember that it is an agreement with an international tax organisation for banks, insurance companies and investors.
[01:59.000 --> 02:05.000]  Now every single bank and every financial institution should consider this.
[02:05.000 --> 02:15.000]  There will be a period of months in the future when it will become a reality that everyone will write down the Greek loans.
[02:15.000 --> 02:18.000]  But can you say no?
[02:18.000 --> 02:22.000]  It is up to every financial institution and every bank to say no.
[02:22.000 --> 02:28.000]  But in the background the alternative is that Greece goes into concursion and you get nothing.
[02:28.000 --> 02:35.000]  But if you were to write down half of the debts and it would be about 100 billion euros, where would the money come from?
[02:35.000 --> 02:40.000]  It is up to the banks to take from their reserves that the banks should have.
[02:40.000 --> 02:44.000]  Because when they loan out, it is not certain that they will get it back.
[02:44.000 --> 02:49.000]  But now you have also discovered the previous financial crisis.
[02:49.000 --> 02:53.000]  Our banks have loaned out too much, speculated if you will.
[02:53.000 --> 02:56.000]  They do not have enough reserves in their cash sales.
[02:56.000 --> 03:03.000]  That is why it is important that next year the banks should increase their reserves to cover these losses.
[03:03.000 --> 03:06.000]  The next question is where will the money come from?
[03:06.000 --> 03:12.000]  The politicians say that it will be up to the bank's shareholders to put up with new emissions and so on.
[03:12.000 --> 03:17.000]  But the question is whether all banks around Europe will be able to do this next year.
[03:17.000 --> 03:21.000]  To fill up their cash sales to cover the losses in Greece and other countries.
[03:21.000 --> 03:25.000]  There are a lot of questions before this is filled up.
[03:25.000 --> 03:31.000]  If we look at the three crisis countries, we can look at Sweden.
[03:31.000 --> 03:35.000]  Let's start with Greece. Is Greece in the lead?
[03:35.000 --> 03:40.000]  The Prime Minister of Greece was very happy that this was a new start.
[03:40.000 --> 03:44.000]  They get the loans down from the enormous Greek level.
[03:44.000 --> 03:47.000]  They come down to Italy's level of state debt.
[03:47.000 --> 03:52.000]  If all banks and institutions agree to halve the loans.
[03:52.000 --> 03:55.000]  But all savings are there.
[03:55.000 --> 04:01.000]  Reductions in the state debt. Reductions in the state debt's salaries and pensions.
[04:01.000 --> 04:05.000]  It is in the years to come that these savings will change.
[04:05.000 --> 04:10.000]  And then the economy will hopefully be better for the Greek state.
[04:10.000 --> 04:13.000]  So that the tax income is in line with their expenses.
[04:13.000 --> 04:16.000]  But the question is what happens to the Greek economy in the rest of the world?
[04:16.000 --> 04:19.000]  Where will the growth and the speed of the Greek economy come from?
[04:19.000 --> 04:25.000]  You say they come down to Italy's level. Italy is not on a particularly stable foot.
[04:25.000 --> 04:30.000]  Can Italy not look back and say, now we put down, we do not raise pensions.
[04:30.000 --> 04:33.000]  This puts the EU countries up.
[04:33.000 --> 04:35.000]  Some critics say that this can be followed.
[04:35.000 --> 04:40.000]  If one country halves its debts, then more can come after and say it is not so enough.
[04:40.000 --> 04:45.000]  Now they have built in stricter control of budget discipline.
[04:45.000 --> 04:50.000]  This was shown by mentioning Italy by name and directly criticizing Berlusconi.
[04:50.000 --> 04:52.000]  This is something that has not been done before.
[04:52.000 --> 04:58.000]  And you also have greater opportunities from the EU Commission and other European institutions
[04:58.000 --> 05:01.000]  to halve countries that break the budget discipline.
[05:01.000 --> 05:04.000]  But the financial market will also need the eyes of the future.
[05:04.000 --> 05:07.000]  Will one live up to what you are saying now?
[05:07.000 --> 05:10.000]  When Sarkozy was talking, he did not mention Italy.
[05:10.000 --> 05:13.000]  But the German Merkel took up Italy.
[05:13.000 --> 05:17.000]  Does this show some kind of internal tensions in the EU summit?
[05:17.000 --> 05:22.000]  No, I think on Sunday it was most clear with the criticism of Italy and Berlusconi.
[05:22.000 --> 05:28.000]  And then Sarkozy had probably been out and about against Silvio Berlusconi as well.
[05:28.000 --> 05:33.000]  They realize that Italy is so much bigger than Greece.
[05:33.000 --> 05:35.000]  So Italy is a key.
[05:35.000 --> 05:37.000]  And it's not just this decision at night.
[05:37.000 --> 05:43.000]  Now there must be reforms and changes that make the state budgets come into play.
[05:43.000 --> 05:48.000]  But also that our competitiveness against countries like China and India is increasing.
[05:48.000 --> 05:51.000]  We Europeans can no longer lean back.
[05:51.000 --> 05:57.000]  Now there are a lot of people who want to compete with us on technically advanced production.
[05:57.000 --> 05:59.000]  And that is really a basic problem.
[05:59.000 --> 06:02.000]  Merkel has had a lot of problems at home as well.
[06:02.000 --> 06:04.000]  To get them on this train.
[06:04.000 --> 06:09.000]  What will this mean for the German people who will pay a large part of this?
[06:09.000 --> 06:14.000]  Now you have said that you will pay what you promised earlier.
[06:14.000 --> 06:19.000]  Then you make a rather complicated construction to build up this protection or rescue fund.
[06:19.000 --> 06:24.000]  Where you say that you should use these money a little more speculatively.
[06:24.000 --> 06:30.000]  You should invest the money that already exists, as the Germans have promised in this rescue fund for weak countries.
[06:30.000 --> 06:36.000]  But then you have to go out and negotiate to get up to this sum of 1 billion euros.
[06:36.000 --> 06:41.000]  Then you have to negotiate with the Chinese, with the Norwegians, the rich oil countries.
[06:41.000 --> 06:43.000]  Come now and invest in Europe.
[06:43.000 --> 06:46.000]  Buy our state obligations, our state debt changes.
[06:46.000 --> 06:49.000]  So that if they are to come up with these huge sums.
[06:49.000 --> 06:57.000]  It is based on the fact that the Chinese, the Arabs, the Norwegians want to go in and buy state debt papers in Europe.
[06:57.000 --> 06:59.000]  But what are they interested in saving Europe?
[06:59.000 --> 07:01.000]  Yes, now it is so. We hang together.
[07:01.000 --> 07:04.000]  The Chinese, we are a large export market for the Chinese.
[07:04.000 --> 07:08.000]  We will buy toys for Christmas that are manufactured in China.
[07:08.000 --> 07:10.000]  Our computers, our phones.
[07:10.000 --> 07:13.000]  If we start to become pessimists here and do not trade.
[07:13.000 --> 07:15.000]  Then it is a problem for the Chinese.
[07:15.000 --> 07:16.000]  So it has started to be so.
[07:16.000 --> 07:19.000]  We are dependent, I mean, it is a very universal dependent here.
[07:19.000 --> 07:33.000]  And the Chinese also realize that.
[07:33.000 --> 07:36.000]  Yes, it came to an end a few hours ago.
[07:36.000 --> 07:39.000]  An appeal in Brussels about the debt crisis.
[07:39.000 --> 07:41.000]  Greek debts are written down by half.
[07:41.000 --> 07:45.000]  And the banks must increase their capital to avoid debt.
[07:45.000 --> 07:49.000]  It is about incredibly large money. And where did they come from?
[07:49.000 --> 07:51.000]  We will talk about that now.
[07:51.000 --> 07:53.000]  Yes, with Carl Behammenton, head of parliament for the People's Party.
[07:53.000 --> 07:55.000]  And Jonas Sjöstedt for the Left Party.
[07:55.000 --> 07:56.000]  Welcome.
[07:56.000 --> 07:57.000]  Thank you.
[07:57.000 --> 07:59.000]  After this appeal this night, early in the morning.
[07:59.000 --> 08:00.000]  Is the crisis over?
[08:00.000 --> 08:04.000]  It is actually a day of joy for the Europeans and for the taxpayers of Europe.
[08:04.000 --> 08:07.000]  And those who put money in the banks of Europe.
[08:07.000 --> 08:11.000]  Because now we all have the beginning at the end of this crisis.
[08:11.000 --> 08:13.000]  So it will get better and better.
[08:13.000 --> 08:16.000]  I think it is another form of beginning at the end as we see here.
[08:16.000 --> 08:18.000]  You have shot up the crisis for a while.
[08:18.000 --> 08:21.000]  And some of the measures that have been done are also very reasonable.
[08:21.000 --> 08:23.000]  But the underlying problems have not been solved.
[08:23.000 --> 08:25.000]  You have not regulated the financial sector that is needed.
[08:25.000 --> 08:28.000]  You do not have the opportunity for countries to leave Europe, which is absolutely necessary.
[08:28.000 --> 08:31.000]  But now you have an acute deal, I think, between Greece and Italy.
[08:31.000 --> 08:32.000]  Which is also...
[08:32.000 --> 08:36.000]  I mean, there is a situation where they actually struck in the parliament yesterday.
[08:36.000 --> 08:38.000]  But does this Greece get on its feet, Jonas?
[08:38.000 --> 08:43.000]  No, Greece will still have a tax on 120% of the GDP.
[08:43.000 --> 08:46.000]  And Greece is in recession, so the economy is shrinking.
[08:46.000 --> 08:50.000]  This means that it is probably a matter of time before the Greeks come back and need more help.
[08:50.000 --> 08:54.000]  It is not a dismissal with half of the debt, but half of the private debt.
[08:54.000 --> 08:57.000]  If you would have needed to take an even longer time.
[08:57.000 --> 09:00.000]  Greece's basic problem is that you do not have any competitiveness.
[09:00.000 --> 09:04.000]  Because you are stuck in the euro with the wrong exchange rate and the wrong interest rate.
[09:04.000 --> 09:05.000]  And that has not been done at all.
[09:05.000 --> 09:06.000]  It does not seem like a day of joy at all.
[09:06.000 --> 09:09.000]  No, it seems a little Rönnberg-philosophically half-sad.
[09:09.000 --> 09:15.000]  But the truth is that you have actually managed to gather the European countries.
[09:15.000 --> 09:21.000]  And it has also gone to a solution that is very well in line with what Sweden and Germany,
[09:21.000 --> 09:26.000]  the Netherlands and Finland think in these issues.
[09:26.000 --> 09:29.000]  So it is the nations first of all that are going to shoot this.
[09:29.000 --> 09:31.000]  It should not be overshadowed by the shareholders.
[09:31.000 --> 09:34.000]  Or it should not be overshadowed by the taxpayers or the consumers.
[09:34.000 --> 09:36.000]  So I think this is good.
[09:36.000 --> 09:41.000]  Then it is true, as Jona says, that the Greeks will have many years of problems ahead of them.
[09:41.000 --> 09:43.000]  But it is irreversible.
[09:43.000 --> 09:46.000]  Other countries cannot take over their problems.
[09:46.000 --> 09:50.000]  But above all, it will be calm and calm if this works.
[09:50.000 --> 09:52.000]  Then you have to do a little more.
[09:52.000 --> 09:54.000]  You do not seem to be able to get Jona out of it.
[09:54.000 --> 09:56.000]  Jona, it is like this.
[09:56.000 --> 09:58.000]  What is happening in Europe is something very serious.
[09:58.000 --> 10:00.000]  It is a social catastrophe.
[10:00.000 --> 10:03.000]  That people become unemployed, poor, forced to emigrate.
[10:03.000 --> 10:05.000]  And this will continue.
[10:05.000 --> 10:09.000]  Because the EU mainly requires hard cuts and privatizations.
[10:09.000 --> 10:11.000]  Jona, wait, Karl-B.
[10:11.000 --> 10:17.000]  In addition, it is now planned to set up a kind of bank at the EU level.
[10:17.000 --> 10:19.000]  Where even Swedish tax money will go in.
[10:19.000 --> 10:23.000]  To be able to help these French and Italian banks that have caused the crisis.
[10:23.000 --> 10:25.000]  And I think it is exactly the opposite of what Karl-B said.
[10:25.000 --> 10:31.000]  Now the metal worker in Fagersta and the nurse in Hallsberg will save bank directors.
[10:31.000 --> 10:35.000]  Let's take a look at where the note ends up.
[10:35.000 --> 10:37.000]  It is an incredibly large amount of money.
[10:37.000 --> 10:40.000]  It is one billion euros.
[10:40.000 --> 10:42.000]  Let me just say this to Jona.
[10:42.000 --> 10:47.000]  Jona's recipe is that we should absolutely not help here.
[10:47.000 --> 10:50.000]  Then it would have been even worse for these people.
[10:50.000 --> 10:54.000]  Then it is not that it is Europe's Wallenberg that goes around with a cylinder hat that should be helped.
[10:54.000 --> 10:59.000]  Those who are helped by this are the payers who would otherwise have lost their jobs.
[10:59.000 --> 11:03.000]  It is the payers who would otherwise have lost their money.
[11:03.000 --> 11:05.000]  It is ordinary people.
[11:05.000 --> 11:08.000]  Before we get to what is good, can you just stop there?
[11:08.000 --> 11:10.000]  Who is praising?
[11:10.000 --> 11:12.000]  You mean the workforce in Hallsberg.
[11:12.000 --> 11:14.000]  What do you say?
[11:14.000 --> 11:21.000]  The banks, if we take them, now have to put more money at the bottom of their cash box.
[11:21.000 --> 11:25.000]  To be able to continue with the loan they have.
[11:25.000 --> 11:30.000]  Swedish banks have already known that for a long time.
[11:30.000 --> 11:34.000]  They have had quite large profits that they can now use for this.
[11:34.000 --> 11:38.000]  With crisis funds, other support packages, who will pay for that?
[11:38.000 --> 11:42.000]  They should be as big as they ever need to be used.
[11:42.000 --> 11:45.000]  They should be as big as you are.
[11:45.000 --> 11:48.000]  How much money will Swedes get from this?
[11:48.000 --> 11:50.000]  There are two things that happen.
[11:50.000 --> 11:55.000]  First is the financial debt that should be borne by private investors.
[11:55.000 --> 12:01.000]  Then there is a lot of money in the EFSF, the taxpayers of the euro countries.
[12:01.000 --> 12:03.000]  It is a large fund that the euro countries have.
[12:03.000 --> 12:08.000]  But behind that you have plans to introduce an equity bank for the entire EU.
[12:08.000 --> 12:12.000]  There the Swedish taxpayers' money is at stake.
[12:12.000 --> 12:16.000]  That is to the banks, the French banks have made huge profits.
[12:16.000 --> 12:19.000]  They have shared the profits with their owners, gave bonuses.
[12:19.000 --> 12:25.000]  Yes, because in order to guarantee a bank account, all member states should go in with economic guarantees.
[12:25.000 --> 12:26.000]  Even Sweden?
[12:26.000 --> 12:31.000]  Even Sweden. This is not finished yet, but it is one of the things that is on the map and that the Swedish government is doing.
[12:31.000 --> 12:35.000]  And I mean that we voted no to the EU's currency union.
[12:35.000 --> 12:44.000]  Then we voted no to go in and have this central economic policy and take the enormous risks that the currency union entails.
[12:44.000 --> 12:49.000]  And the government and the People's Party are trying to get us into the EU policy step by step.
[12:49.000 --> 12:53.000]  And you have no mandate to do that. You have actually voted no to it.
[12:53.000 --> 12:59.000]  It really seems like you think this decision is successful. You are very angry about it, Jonas.
[12:59.000 --> 13:07.000]  But it is true that Sweden is not allowed to be part of this European bank account, because it has not been created in the way we wanted it to be.
[13:07.000 --> 13:09.000]  Aren't we going to be happy about that now?
[13:09.000 --> 13:19.000]  Yes, the cats know that. It would have been better if in Europe they had created a bank account where they had made sure that first of all it was the owners, the shareholders, who took the hit.
[13:19.000 --> 13:25.000]  First, if they did not succeed, they would go to the national state taxes.
[13:25.000 --> 13:32.000]  But since we do not have that problem with the banks, there will be no expense for Sweden in this, the Swedish tax payers.
[13:32.000 --> 13:34.000]  But will it be more expensive for Sweden?
[13:34.000 --> 13:36.000]  It is just the fabulation from Jonas.
[13:36.000 --> 13:40.000]  Will it be more expensive for Swedish bank customers?
[13:40.000 --> 13:46.000]  Not as it looks now. The advantage of this is that there will be increased stability.
[13:46.000 --> 13:55.000]  This is done so that we will not have a banking crisis in Europe. It is done so that people will be able to keep their jobs.
[13:55.000 --> 14:06.000]  You have completely different views when it comes to the membership in the Euro. But would Greece not have gotten this help if they had had their own currency?
[14:06.000 --> 14:13.000]  Yes, they would have gotten it. But since they are EU members, it is still the case that they try to participate as a family.
[14:13.000 --> 14:18.000]  But the fundamental problems, I agree with Jonas, that exist in Greece.
[14:18.000 --> 14:25.000]  Is it so that you neglect your economy? Then it goes wrong. It does not matter what currency system you have.
[14:25.000 --> 14:30.000]  The problem is not the Euro, the problem is the debts, the budget cut.
[14:30.000 --> 14:33.000]  Therefore, it is very important that you have rules against this being repeated.
[14:33.000 --> 14:40.000]  This is wrong. Greece has many problems. There is sometimes a poor tax system and too little income and no budget balance.
[14:40.000 --> 14:45.000]  But the Euro has made the crisis much worse. First, you got overheating and too low interest rates.
[14:45.000 --> 14:53.000]  Now you have too high interest rates and the wrong exchange rate. In many other countries, it is a huge risk taking of the banking system that has led to the crisis.
[14:53.000 --> 14:58.000]  And Carl B. Hamilton's problem here is that two of his lovers have done this.
[14:58.000 --> 15:03.000]  The Euro that does not work and a regulated financial market that either does not work.
[15:03.000 --> 15:10.000]  And if you are ideologically blinded and do not see that this has created the problem, then you can not either solve them.
[15:10.000 --> 15:15.000]  And that is where the EU is today. That you see it only as a debt crisis.
[15:15.000 --> 15:23.000]  But this crisis is caused by the Euro not working, forcing countries wrong economic policy and that we have a banking sector that has run amok.
[15:23.000 --> 15:42.000]  The first snow is coming. The question is whether the train passengers' nightmare winter will be repeated in the long run.
[15:42.000 --> 15:47.000]  200 million is invested in improvements at S-Jim. The question is how far they can go.
[15:47.000 --> 15:53.000]  We will talk about that with Jan Forsberg, who is the current CEO of S-Jim.
[15:53.000 --> 15:59.000]  How much can it affect in that situation?
[15:59.000 --> 16:06.000]  About the same as normal. However, it will not be so easy to take part in the most long-term issues.
[16:06.000 --> 16:11.000]  But to manage and control the business is not a problem. It will work as usual.
[16:11.000 --> 16:19.000]  But how motivated are you to manage and control the business and make big improvements?
[16:19.000 --> 16:24.000]  I am as motivated as if I had five years left. For me there is no difference.
[16:24.000 --> 16:30.000]  It is about doing your job until the day you stop. I have always tried to live after that principle.
[16:30.000 --> 16:33.000]  I think I have done quite well.
[16:33.000 --> 16:41.000]  200 million is now going to improve and possibly counter the chaos that was last year.
[16:41.000 --> 16:49.000]  Will the money come to ensure that the train rolls on time, that it will be delayed as before or that it will be unchanged?
[16:49.000 --> 16:53.000]  We had a meeting with the traffic authority the other day.
[16:53.000 --> 17:02.000]  For the first thing, as a traveller, you have to have reasonable expectations of how the traffic on the highway works in the air when the weather is extreme.
[17:02.000 --> 17:08.000]  The train is not an exceptional exception that goes out and out regardless of what happens.
[17:08.000 --> 17:15.000]  But one thing is certain, what we have done will lead to our ability to take care of travellers,
[17:15.000 --> 17:21.000]  to get the train to go, despite the great difficulties in the traffic, much better.
[17:21.000 --> 17:28.000]  But then it is so that for a journey to be completed, you must have a functioning train and a functioning railway.
[17:28.000 --> 17:32.000]  One is the traffic authority that delivers and the other is us who delivers.
[17:32.000 --> 17:36.000]  Together we are trying to do our utmost to make this as good as possible.
[17:36.000 --> 17:40.000]  You explained a great loss here every day with the winter.
[17:40.000 --> 17:46.000]  But isn't it a fundamental mistake somewhere in a country that always has winters,
[17:46.000 --> 17:52.000]  that the business does not become so chaotic as it was last year when the winter became a little extra strict?
[17:52.000 --> 17:59.000]  Yes, but it was so that the winter was not a little extra strict, but it was the worst winter according to the SMHI that we have had in Sweden for 150 years.
[17:59.000 --> 18:04.000]  So it was frozen from north to south, there was snow all over Sweden.
[18:04.000 --> 18:10.000]  The train in Skåne was in the ditch, they could not get there, so it was not any winter whatsoever.
[18:10.000 --> 18:13.000]  It was an extreme winter, you have to remember that.
[18:13.000 --> 18:18.000]  But how much do you think the trains should stand out? What delays should be tolerated?
[18:18.000 --> 18:23.000]  Under such conditions it is of course extremely difficult to operate traffic,
[18:23.000 --> 18:27.000]  just as many roads were forced to be turned off.
[18:27.000 --> 18:30.000]  Shouldn't you take the train when it's winter in Sweden?
[18:30.000 --> 18:33.000]  Yes, in the greatest possible extent it is of course so.
[18:33.000 --> 18:39.000]  But then it is so that when you get so much snowfall and so much storm in combination,
[18:39.000 --> 18:46.000]  it is of course so that you should be out for a while and plan your trip so that it can be delayed.
[18:46.000 --> 18:51.000]  But what do you say if it becomes an extra strict winter this year as well?
[18:51.000 --> 18:54.000]  That it does not happen again, that it is not repeated?
[18:54.000 --> 18:56.000]  How far is 200 million then?
[18:56.000 --> 19:03.000]  Well, we can say that what was our big shortcoming last year and the year before that,
[19:03.000 --> 19:10.000]  it was that the train's technology could not handle the ice formations that were under the train.
[19:10.000 --> 19:12.000]  30 tons of ice stuck.
[19:12.000 --> 19:18.000]  We did not have enough work capacity to defrost the train and much much more.
[19:18.000 --> 19:20.000]  Is it more than that this year then?
[19:20.000 --> 19:23.000]  All that is, for example, the defrosting capacity.
[19:23.000 --> 19:26.000]  It took eight to nine hours last year to defrost the train.
[19:26.000 --> 19:29.000]  This year it will take just under three hours.
[19:29.000 --> 19:32.000]  So the train has been technically protected.
[19:32.000 --> 19:38.000]  We have employed 40 people who do not have any other task in the weather than to take care of the passengers,
[19:38.000 --> 19:43.000]  give information so that they come where they should, as well as let themselves be done.
[19:43.000 --> 19:47.000]  There was a lot of delay then.
[19:47.000 --> 19:51.000]  And you said that when you joined ten years ago, that the train should arrive on time.
[19:51.000 --> 19:53.000]  That is my main goal.
[19:53.000 --> 19:55.000]  It was even on your list.
[19:55.000 --> 19:59.000]  How does it feel when it goes through the woods?
[19:59.000 --> 20:02.000]  First of all, it's not fun.
[20:02.000 --> 20:04.000]  I think everyone can understand.
[20:04.000 --> 20:08.000]  None of us who work with this thinks that this feels nice.
[20:08.000 --> 20:14.000]  Then you have to say that ten years ago we had significantly less traffic on the tracks.
[20:14.000 --> 20:18.000]  Since I started, only our traffic in the last five years.
[20:18.000 --> 20:21.000]  We have transported 10 million more passengers.
[20:21.000 --> 20:24.000]  We have increased by 10% per year in five years.
[20:24.000 --> 20:28.000]  And the traffic around, all other train operators have also increased.
[20:28.000 --> 20:30.000]  That is because the tracks are full.
[20:30.000 --> 20:34.000]  Then it becomes very difficult to handle the traffic,
[20:34.000 --> 20:38.000]  because the smallest disturbance will appear in a traffic problem, unfortunately.
[20:38.000 --> 20:41.000]  So that makes the system really hyper sensitive.
[20:41.000 --> 20:43.000]  And we have to get rid of that.
[20:43.000 --> 20:46.000]  And we and Trafikverket and others are trying to do that in a good way.
[20:46.000 --> 20:49.000]  Last winter there was a test, both for SNR and for EC, one might say.
[20:49.000 --> 20:52.000]  The travel guarantee, for example, became very expensive.
[20:52.000 --> 20:54.000]  What happened to it this year?
[20:54.000 --> 20:56.000]  We look at this.
[20:56.000 --> 21:00.000]  In the end, we will have the same travel guarantee as we have had.
[21:00.000 --> 21:04.000]  But we look at conditions where we are not vulnerable,
[21:04.000 --> 21:06.000]  how we should handle these issues.
[21:06.000 --> 21:09.000]  And how we can handle our regressions in our turn,
[21:09.000 --> 21:12.000]  against, for example, Trafikverket or others.
[21:12.000 --> 21:14.000]  Are you saying that someone else should pay?
[21:14.000 --> 21:18.000]  No, what I'm saying is that it is clear that no one can leave guarantees
[21:18.000 --> 21:22.000]  in all infinity for things that you do not touch.
[21:22.000 --> 21:25.000]  So there may be some decreases when it comes to travel guarantees?
[21:25.000 --> 21:27.000]  There may be some changes.
[21:27.000 --> 21:30.000]  And which they are, we will come back to.
[21:30.000 --> 21:35.000]  Jan Forsberg, sorry, after ten years you will now leave SI.
[21:35.000 --> 21:38.000]  And leave was just the word used at the press conference.
[21:38.000 --> 21:41.000]  Some others say that you got the kick, did you?
[21:41.000 --> 21:43.000]  Now it's like this.
[21:43.000 --> 21:48.000]  To find out these terms, that I retire in July 2013.
[21:48.000 --> 21:53.000]  We are working today with a change in our organization
[21:53.000 --> 21:58.000]  that will make us even more able to handle our business in a good way.
[21:58.000 --> 22:02.000]  It will mean quite big changes, while we will be effective.
[22:02.000 --> 22:07.000]  That part will be done in the six months shift next year somewhere.
[22:07.000 --> 22:12.000]  And at that point it is one year left before I retire.
[22:12.000 --> 22:17.000]  And then the alternative is that I continue six to nine months
[22:17.000 --> 22:19.000]  and join together with new people.
[22:19.000 --> 22:24.000]  Or that my successor comes already now and takes over.
[22:24.000 --> 22:26.000]  Do you quit voluntarily or not?
[22:26.000 --> 22:29.000]  Then we have come to agree that this is the best solution.
[22:29.000 --> 22:31.000]  So it is an agreement that has been made.
[22:31.000 --> 22:33.000]  If you get the kick according to my definition,
[22:33.000 --> 22:35.000]  then you have misused your work or something like that.
[22:35.000 --> 22:39.000]  And I believe that SI's management and SI's owner think that
[22:39.000 --> 22:42.000]  during my time I have least of all misused my work.
[22:42.000 --> 22:44.000]  We have earned 3.8 billion to the owner,
[22:44.000 --> 22:46.000]  of which we have divided 900 million.
[22:46.000 --> 22:49.000]  Thank you, Jan Forsberg, for coming here.
[22:49.000 --> 22:51.000]  And we hope that the train rolls this year.
[22:51.000 --> 22:53.000]  I keep my fingers crossed for you too. Thank you.
[22:53.000 --> 22:57.000]  The train rolls this year
[23:15.000 --> 23:18.000]  This is Karin Westholm.
[23:18.000 --> 23:21.000]  Karin does not think she is so special.
[23:21.000 --> 23:23.000]  But we see her in a different way.
[23:23.000 --> 23:27.000]  Because Karin is incredibly important.
[23:27.000 --> 23:29.000]  What is the question about, really?
[23:29.000 --> 23:33.000]  Yes, Karin. What that question is about is freedom.
[23:33.000 --> 23:38.000]  That you and I get to see and hear things that otherwise would not have reached us.
[23:38.000 --> 23:43.000]  Smart, sombre, the big and the small.
[23:43.000 --> 23:47.000]  The alternative that gives us perspective on the present.
[23:47.000 --> 23:51.000]  So for us you are the queen of freedom.
[23:52.000 --> 23:55.000]  And that is why we say, thank you Karin,
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