Detecting language using up to the first 30 seconds. Use `--language` to specify the language Detected language: Swedish [00:00.000 --> 00:22.000] After 10 hours for business in the night, it was now in the morning, of course, with a crisis package for the crisis in the Netherlands. [00:22.000 --> 00:31.000] And it was a tired French president who, at four o'clock in the morning, will come out and tell you that you will not be surprised that Greece should be written off with half of it. [00:31.000 --> 00:38.000] This will be done by a voluntary agreement with private customers. [00:38.000 --> 00:53.000] We have discussed the parameters with their representatives, as well as asked for France from the beginning, we have excluded the perspective of a lack of Greece. [00:53.000 --> 01:02.000] But private customers have renounced half of the debt they hold. [01:02.000 --> 01:11.000] Good morning, Rolf Fredriksson. He looked tired, but it was still over until the end. What are you up to? [01:11.000 --> 01:26.000] Even if it was late at night, this is what you have speculated, what you have laid out and what you have speculated since the weekend in Sunday. [01:26.000 --> 01:35.000] Yes, they say that they have raised a lot. The numbers are so large that you have 1,000 billion euros in Swedish, I think. [01:35.000 --> 01:42.000] It is a billion. The numbers for me are Joakim von Anka's numbers. What are they about? [01:42.000 --> 01:46.000] But they have come forward to something that they have put some numbers on. [01:46.000 --> 01:59.000] We have talked to the private banks, they have gone to halve the debts, so you should remember that it is a surplus income with an international bank organization for banks, insurance companies and investors. [01:59.000 --> 02:15.000] Now each bank, each financial institution will move forward. Will we take part in this? There will be a period of months ahead where the reality of this is that everyone really writes down the Greek debts or loans they have. [02:15.000 --> 02:17.000] But can you say no? [02:17.000 --> 02:27.000] It is up to each financial institution, each bank to say no, but of course in the background, the alternative is that the Greek debt goes into competition and you get nothing. [02:27.000 --> 02:34.000] But if you are to write down half of the debts and you have to spend about 100 billion euros, where will the money come from? [02:34.000 --> 02:48.000] The banks have to take from their reserves that banks should have, because when they are loaned out, they are not sure they will get back. But now you have covered even before the Greek crisis, during the previous financial crisis. [02:48.000 --> 02:55.000] Our banks have loaned out too much, speculated if you want, they do not have enough with reserves in their pockets. [02:55.000 --> 03:05.000] Therefore, this also means that next year the banks will increase their reserves to cover such losses. Next question, what will the money come from? [03:05.000 --> 03:21.000] The politicians say that the banks' shareholders have to put up new pensions and so on. But the question is if all banks around Europe will be able to do this next year, to fill in their losses in Greece and elsewhere. [03:21.000 --> 03:31.000] There are a lot of questions written down before this. But if we look at the three countries that are going to pay, we can look at Sweden. [03:31.000 --> 03:35.000] Let's start with Greece. Does Greece get this? Greece on its feet? [03:35.000 --> 03:44.000] Greece's Prime Minister was very pleased before he said that this is really a new start. They have to lower the loan from a huge Greek level. [03:44.000 --> 03:52.000] We have come down to the level of Italy in the state debt, if all banks and institutes go along to halve the loans. [03:52.000 --> 04:01.000] But all the savings are there. The lower taxes in the state, the lower taxes in the state, the loans and pensions. [04:01.000 --> 04:13.000] It is a year ahead when these savings are going to change. And then the economy will hopefully get better for the Greek state, so that the tax income will agree with their expenses. [04:13.000 --> 04:19.000] What about the Greek economy? Where will the growth be? What will the speed be in the Greek economy? [04:19.000 --> 04:25.000] But when you say they are going down to the level of Italy, Italy is actually not at a stable level. [04:25.000 --> 04:32.000] Can't Italy move back? Now we are going down, we don't have any pension holders. This is where the EU is going up. [04:32.000 --> 04:40.000] It is part of the criticism that this can be followed. If a country halves its debts, it can come after and say that is not enough. [04:40.000 --> 04:51.000] Then you have built in stricter control of the budget discipline. You have shown that by naming Italy in the name and directly criticizing the Belarusians. [04:51.000 --> 05:01.000] It is something you don't usually do earlier. And you also have more opportunities from the EU commission and other European institutions to rob countries that break the budget discipline. [05:01.000 --> 05:07.000] But there will also be financial markets that need the eyes on ahead. Will you live up to what you are saying now? [05:07.000 --> 05:17.000] When Sarkozy spoke, he didn't mention Italy. But German Merkel, she took up Italy. Does this show any kind of tension internally in the EU? [05:17.000 --> 05:22.000] No, I think in Sunday the criticism was the most clear towards Italy and the Belarusians. [05:22.000 --> 05:33.000] And then Sarkozy had been out and fresh towards Silvia and the Belarusians as well. Italy is much bigger than Greece. [05:33.000 --> 05:44.000] Italy is a key. And it is not just the rise of the night. There must be reforms and changes that make the state budgets come into effect. [05:44.000 --> 05:52.000] But also that our competitiveness towards countries like China and India is increasing. We Europeans can't stop anymore. [05:52.000 --> 05:59.000] Now there are a lot of people who want to compete with us in technical-advanced production. And that is a fundamental problem. [05:59.000 --> 06:10.000] Merkel has had a lot of problems at home. What will this mean for the German people who are going to pay big parts of this? [06:10.000 --> 06:20.000] Now you have said that you are going to pay what you promised earlier. Then you make a complicated construction to build up this protection or rescue fund. [06:20.000 --> 06:24.000] Where you say that you are going to use these funds a little more speculatively. [06:24.000 --> 06:30.000] You are going to invest the money that already exists, which the Germans have promised in this rescue fund for weak countries. [06:30.000 --> 06:36.000] But then you are going to go out and negotiate to get up to this sum of 1 billion euros. [06:36.000 --> 06:41.000] Then you are going to negotiate with the Chinese, with the Normans, the rich oil countries. [06:41.000 --> 06:46.000] Come now and invest in Europe, buy our state obligations and our state debt changes. [06:46.000 --> 06:54.000] If they are going to come up with these great sums, they are going to build up Chinese, Arabs, Normans. [06:54.000 --> 06:57.000] We are going to buy state debt papers in Europe. [06:57.000 --> 06:59.000] But what is their interest in saving Europe? [06:59.000 --> 07:04.000] Yes, now it is like that. We are a big export market for the Chinese. [07:04.000 --> 07:10.000] We are going to buy toys for Christmas, which has affected China, our computers, our phones. [07:10.000 --> 07:16.000] If we are going to be pessimists and do not act, then it is a problem for the Chinese. [07:16.000 --> 07:21.000] It is a very humble company, and it also includes the Chinese. [07:21.000 --> 07:33.000] What could you have done? [07:33.000 --> 07:36.000] Yes, it was the end for just a few hours ago. [07:36.000 --> 07:39.000] An uproar in Brussels on the debt crisis. [07:39.000 --> 07:42.000] The Greek debt was written down with the help of the banks. [07:42.000 --> 07:45.000] The banks must increase their capital so that they do not go bankrupt. [07:45.000 --> 07:50.000] It is about incomprehensible big money, and what are they coming from? [07:50.000 --> 07:56.000] Yes, with Carl B. Hamilton, vice president of the People's Party and Jonas Sjöstedt for the left party. Welcome. [07:56.000 --> 07:57.000] Thank you. [07:57.000 --> 08:00.000] After the uproar in the morning, is the crisis over? [08:00.000 --> 08:07.000] It is a joy for the Europeans and for the loan sharks in Europe, and those who put their money in the banks in Europe. [08:07.000 --> 08:12.000] Now we have to start at the end of this crisis, so that it will get better and better. [08:12.000 --> 08:16.000] I think it is another form of start at the end, as we see here. [08:16.000 --> 08:20.000] The crisis has been set up for a while, and a part of the measures have been taken very seriously. [08:20.000 --> 08:23.000] But the underlying problems have not been solved. [08:23.000 --> 08:25.000] They have not regulated the financial sector that needs it. [08:25.000 --> 08:28.000] They have not been able to leave the EU, which is absolutely necessary. [08:28.000 --> 08:32.000] Now it is very fun to talk about the Greek and the Italian. [08:32.000 --> 08:36.000] The situation there is so tense that it actually hit the parliament yesterday. [08:36.000 --> 08:39.000] Do you still get the Greek debt on your feet, Jonas? [08:39.000 --> 08:46.000] The Greek debt will still have a state debt of 120% of the BNP, and the Greek debt contains the recession of the economy. [08:46.000 --> 08:50.000] That is, there is still a question of time before the Greeks come back and need more help. [08:50.000 --> 08:57.000] It is not a separation with half of the debt, but half of the private debt, and you would have had to take even more. [08:57.000 --> 09:00.000] The basic problem of the Greek debt is that you do not have any competitive power, [09:00.000 --> 09:04.000] because you are stuck in the euro with wrong exchange rate and wrong interest rate. [09:04.000 --> 09:05.000] That is not the case in the European Union. [09:05.000 --> 09:09.000] No, it seems a bit philosophical. [09:09.000 --> 09:15.000] But the truth is that you have actually managed to gather the European countries. [09:15.000 --> 09:24.000] It has also gone to a solution that is very well in line with Sweden, Germany, the Netherlands and Finland. [09:24.000 --> 09:35.000] The question is that the nations that are going to take this debt will not be able to pay the tax or the consumers. [09:35.000 --> 09:37.000] I think this is good. [09:37.000 --> 09:41.000] As Jonas said, the Greeks will have many years of problems in the future, [09:41.000 --> 09:44.000] but it is unforeseen. [09:44.000 --> 09:47.000] Other countries cannot take over their problems. [09:47.000 --> 09:51.000] But above all, it will be calm and calm if this works. [09:51.000 --> 09:55.000] You will have to do a little more. [09:55.000 --> 09:59.000] What is happening in Europe is something unheard of. [09:59.000 --> 10:01.000] It is a social catastrophe. [10:01.000 --> 10:04.000] That people become unemployed and forced to emigrate. [10:04.000 --> 10:10.000] And this will continue, because the EU in the future is in demand of stone-holding loans and privatisation. [10:10.000 --> 10:12.000] Wait, Colby. [10:12.000 --> 10:17.000] In addition, you are now planning to set up a kind of bank account on the EU level, [10:17.000 --> 10:22.000] where even Swedish tax money will be able to help the French and Italian banks. [10:22.000 --> 10:26.000] I think this is exactly the opposite of what Colby said. [10:26.000 --> 10:32.000] Now the metalworkers in Fagersta and the hospital in Halsberg will be able to save the bank director. [10:32.000 --> 10:36.000] Let's take a look at where the note is now. [10:36.000 --> 10:38.000] It is simply unheard of. [10:38.000 --> 10:41.000] It is one billion. [10:41.000 --> 10:47.000] Jonas said that we should absolutely not help here. [10:47.000 --> 10:50.000] Then it would have been even worse for these people. [10:50.000 --> 10:55.000] Then it is not that it is Europe's Wallenberg that goes around with the cylinder hat that should be helped. [10:55.000 --> 11:00.000] Those who help out of this are loan sharks, otherwise they would have lost their jobs. [11:00.000 --> 11:03.000] They are insiders, otherwise they might have lost their money. [11:03.000 --> 11:05.000] It is common people. [11:05.000 --> 11:09.000] When it comes to which one is good, can you just stop there? [11:09.000 --> 11:12.000] You mean that it is the real work in Halsberg. [11:12.000 --> 11:14.000] Yes, what do you say? [11:14.000 --> 11:21.000] The banks have to, if we take them, put more money in their pockets on their cash register [11:21.000 --> 11:25.000] to be able to continue with the loan they have. [11:25.000 --> 11:30.000] You already know that with Swedish banks for a long time, [11:30.000 --> 11:34.000] that you have had quite big profits that you can now use for this. [11:34.000 --> 11:38.000] With crisis fund or other support packages, who is going to pay for that? [11:38.000 --> 11:42.000] They are going to be as big as they are going to need to be used. [11:42.000 --> 11:45.000] They are going to be, let's say, people. [11:45.000 --> 11:48.000] In what way, Jonas, are you going to get pressure from the Swedes? [11:48.000 --> 11:51.000] There are two things that happen, except for the Greek debt, [11:51.000 --> 11:54.000] which should be taken by the private sector, and that is good and right. [11:54.000 --> 11:58.000] But then you are going to put in a lot of money in this EFSF, [11:58.000 --> 12:01.000] that is the tax payers of the euro countries that have to pay for it. [12:01.000 --> 12:03.000] It is a big support fund that the euro countries have. [12:03.000 --> 12:08.000] But behind that, you also have plans to put in a sort of bank account for the whole EU. [12:08.000 --> 12:11.000] And there, there are the Swedish tax payers' money on the game. [12:11.000 --> 12:14.000] And that is to the banks, they have taken the French banks, [12:14.000 --> 12:17.000] they have made great profits, they have divided the profits into their owners, [12:17.000 --> 12:18.000] into a bonus account. [12:18.000 --> 12:20.000] But why do the Swedish tax payers' money on the game then? [12:20.000 --> 12:23.000] Because to guarantee a bank account, [12:23.000 --> 12:26.000] all the member countries should go into economic guarantees. [12:26.000 --> 12:27.000] Even in Sweden. [12:27.000 --> 12:30.000] This is not finished yet, but it is one of the things that lies in the cards [12:30.000 --> 12:33.000] and the Swedish government does. And I mean, [12:33.000 --> 12:36.000] that we voted no to the EU's currency union. [12:36.000 --> 12:41.000] Then we voted no until we went into the central government's economic policy [12:41.000 --> 12:45.000] and took the huge risks that the currency union involved. [12:45.000 --> 12:47.000] And it tries the government and the people's party [12:47.000 --> 12:50.000] to back us into the EU policy step by step. [12:50.000 --> 12:52.000] And you do not have a mandate to do that. [12:52.000 --> 12:54.000] It has actually voted no to it. [12:54.000 --> 12:56.000] It really seems like you think this is the case, [12:56.000 --> 12:58.000] that it is successful, that it is very... [12:58.000 --> 13:00.000] Very sad about that, Jonas. [13:00.000 --> 13:02.000] But it is so that Sweden... [13:02.000 --> 13:05.000] It should not be part of the European bank account, [13:05.000 --> 13:08.000] because it has not been created in the way we wanted it to be. [13:08.000 --> 13:10.000] Should we not be happy about that now? [13:10.000 --> 13:12.000] Yes, it is in the cards. [13:12.000 --> 13:14.000] It has been said that if the European Bank had created [13:14.000 --> 13:17.000] a bank account where it had been set up, [13:17.000 --> 13:20.000] first of all, it was the owners, the shareholders who took the money. [13:20.000 --> 13:22.000] First, if they did not succeed, [13:22.000 --> 13:26.000] then you would go to the national tax accounts. [13:26.000 --> 13:28.000] If we do not have that problem with the banks, [13:28.000 --> 13:31.000] then there will be no issue for Sweden, [13:31.000 --> 13:33.000] the Swedish tax accounts. [13:33.000 --> 13:35.000] But will it be more expensive for Sweden? [13:35.000 --> 13:37.000] It is just a fabulation from Jonas. [13:37.000 --> 13:40.000] But will it be more expensive for Swedish bank customers? [13:40.000 --> 13:42.000] It is not what it looks like now. [13:42.000 --> 13:46.000] The advantage of this is that it has increased stability. [13:46.000 --> 13:51.000] The reason for this is that we should not get a bank crisis in Europe. [13:51.000 --> 13:55.000] It is because people should keep their jobs. [13:55.000 --> 13:57.000] What do you have to say? [13:57.000 --> 14:00.000] You have completely different opinions when it comes to the economy in Europe. [14:00.000 --> 14:02.000] We can agree on that. [14:02.000 --> 14:06.000] But had the Greeks not received this help if they had had their own currency? [14:06.000 --> 14:08.000] Yes, they had received it. [14:08.000 --> 14:10.000] But because they are EU members, [14:10.000 --> 14:13.000] it is still so that you try to act as a family. [14:13.000 --> 14:15.000] But the fundamental problem, [14:15.000 --> 14:18.000] I agree with Jonas, who is in Greece, [14:18.000 --> 14:21.000] is that you are used to their economy. [14:21.000 --> 14:23.000] Then you can enjoy it. [14:23.000 --> 14:25.000] What kind of currency system do you have? [14:25.000 --> 14:27.000] The problem is not the euro, [14:27.000 --> 14:29.000] the problem is the debts. [14:29.000 --> 14:33.000] That is why it is important to have rules against this being discussed. [14:33.000 --> 14:35.000] This is wrong. [14:35.000 --> 14:37.000] The Greeks have many problems. [14:37.000 --> 14:39.000] There is sometimes a bad tax system, [14:39.000 --> 14:41.000] and for some income and no debt balance. [14:41.000 --> 14:43.000] But the euro has made the crisis much worse. [14:43.000 --> 14:45.000] First you got a surplus and low interest rates, [14:45.000 --> 14:48.000] now you have high interest rates and a wrong exchange rate. [14:48.000 --> 14:50.000] In many other countries, [14:50.000 --> 14:53.000] there is a huge risk-taking of the banking system that has led to the crisis. [14:53.000 --> 14:55.000] And the problem with Corby Hamilton is that [14:55.000 --> 14:58.000] there are two of his lovers who have applied for this. [14:58.000 --> 15:00.000] The euro that does not work, [15:00.000 --> 15:03.000] and a regulated financial market that does not work, [15:03.000 --> 15:06.000] and if you are ideologically blind and do not see [15:06.000 --> 15:08.000] that this has created the problem, [15:08.000 --> 15:10.000] then you cannot solve them. [15:10.000 --> 15:12.000] And that is where the EU is today, [15:12.000 --> 15:14.000] that you see it as a debt crisis. [15:14.000 --> 15:16.000] But this crisis is unshakable [15:16.000 --> 15:18.000] because the euro does not work, [15:18.000 --> 15:20.000] and therefore forces countries to make wrong economic policies, [15:20.000 --> 15:22.000] and that we have a banking sector that has led to the crisis. [15:32.000 --> 15:34.000] When the first snow begins to come, [15:34.000 --> 15:36.000] the question also arises [15:36.000 --> 15:39.000] about the winter of the dry grass. [15:39.000 --> 15:42.000] It is going to be addressed in the head. [15:42.000 --> 15:46.000] 200 million are set to improve on S-Gym. [15:46.000 --> 15:48.000] How long are they going to last? [15:48.000 --> 15:50.000] We are going to talk about that with Jan Forsberg, [15:50.000 --> 15:52.000] with S-Gym. [15:52.000 --> 15:54.000] In a few months, you will be sitting there. [15:54.000 --> 15:56.000] Yes, up to half a year later. [15:56.000 --> 15:58.000] How much can it affect in that situation? [16:00.000 --> 16:02.000] About as much as normally. [16:02.000 --> 16:04.000] However, of course, it is not so small [16:04.000 --> 16:06.000] to take part in the most long-term questions, [16:06.000 --> 16:08.000] but that shooting and managing the business [16:08.000 --> 16:10.000] is no problem. [16:10.000 --> 16:12.000] It will work as usual. [16:12.000 --> 16:14.000] But how do you motivate to shoot and manage the business [16:14.000 --> 16:16.000] and make big improvements? [16:16.000 --> 16:18.000] If you see that now it is almost over? [16:18.000 --> 16:22.000] I am as motivated as if I were to have five years left. [16:22.000 --> 16:24.000] For me, there is no difference, [16:24.000 --> 16:26.000] but for me it is very much the case that [16:26.000 --> 16:28.000] you should do your job until the day you finish, [16:28.000 --> 16:30.000] and that principle has always tried to live after. [16:30.000 --> 16:32.000] I think that I have done quite well, actually. [16:32.000 --> 16:36.000] Now 200 new million are going to be improved, [16:36.000 --> 16:38.000] and possibly counter the chaos that was last year. [16:38.000 --> 16:40.000] Will the money there [16:40.000 --> 16:44.000] make the train run on time? [16:44.000 --> 16:46.000] Will it be too late as before? [16:46.000 --> 16:48.000] Or will it be unchanged? [16:48.000 --> 16:50.000] I think so first of all. [16:50.000 --> 16:52.000] We had a meeting with the traffic department [16:52.000 --> 16:54.000] the other day. I think that first of all [16:54.000 --> 16:56.000] you have to have reasonable expectations [16:56.000 --> 16:58.000] about how the traffic on the railway, [16:58.000 --> 17:00.000] on the road, in the air, [17:00.000 --> 17:02.000] works when there is extreme weather. [17:02.000 --> 17:04.000] So the train is not an exceptional amount [17:04.000 --> 17:06.000] that goes out and down, [17:06.000 --> 17:08.000] regardless of what happens. [17:08.000 --> 17:10.000] But one thing is certain, [17:10.000 --> 17:12.000] that what we have done will lead to [17:12.000 --> 17:14.000] our ability to take care of the passengers, [17:14.000 --> 17:16.000] to get the train going, [17:16.000 --> 17:18.000] despite the great difficulties [17:18.000 --> 17:20.000] in the traffic, is much better. [17:20.000 --> 17:22.000] But then it is so that [17:22.000 --> 17:24.000] for a journey to be completed [17:24.000 --> 17:26.000] you have to have a functioning train [17:26.000 --> 17:28.000] and a functioning railway. [17:28.000 --> 17:30.000] One is the railway that delivers [17:30.000 --> 17:32.000] and the other is us who delivers. [17:32.000 --> 17:34.000] We together try to do our utmost [17:34.000 --> 17:36.000] to make this work as good as possible. [17:36.000 --> 18:03.980] So you explained the [18:03.980 --> 18:05.000] train in Skåne, [18:05.000 --> 18:07.000] LogiDiket could not come forward. [18:07.000 --> 18:09.000] So it was not [18:09.000 --> 18:11.000] any winter at all. It was an extreme winter. [18:11.000 --> 18:13.000] You have to remember that. [18:13.000 --> 18:15.000] Yes, but how much do you think [18:15.000 --> 18:17.000] the trains are going to go out? With what conditions [18:17.000 --> 18:19.000] should you not tolerate? [18:19.000 --> 18:21.000] Yes, under such conditions [18:21.000 --> 18:23.000] it is of course extremely difficult to [18:23.000 --> 18:25.000] operate traffic, [18:25.000 --> 18:27.000] at the same time that many roads [18:27.000 --> 18:29.000] are forced to be exposed. [18:29.000 --> 18:31.000] So you should not take the train [18:31.000 --> 18:33.000] when it is winter in Sweden? [18:33.000 --> 18:35.000] Yes, when there is a lot of snowfall [18:35.000 --> 18:37.000] and so much snowfall [18:37.000 --> 18:39.000] in combination [18:39.000 --> 18:41.000] it is of course that [18:41.000 --> 18:43.000] you should be in good time [18:43.000 --> 18:45.000] and plan your journey [18:45.000 --> 18:47.000] so that it can be delayed. [18:47.000 --> 18:49.000] But what does it take [18:49.000 --> 18:51.000] if it becomes an extra extreme winter [18:51.000 --> 18:53.000] this year? [18:53.000 --> 18:55.000] To not be like this again? [18:55.000 --> 18:57.000] How far is 200 million then? [18:57.000 --> 18:59.000] We can say that [18:59.000 --> 19:01.000] our big shortcoming [19:01.000 --> 19:03.000] in the spring and this year [19:03.000 --> 19:05.000] was that the train [19:05.000 --> 19:07.000] technology did not [19:07.000 --> 19:09.000] finish the snowfall [19:09.000 --> 19:11.000] that was under the train. 30 tons of ice [19:11.000 --> 19:13.000] stuck. [19:13.000 --> 19:15.000] We did not have the capacity [19:15.000 --> 19:17.000] to release the train [19:17.000 --> 19:19.000] and much much more. [19:19.000 --> 19:21.000] Is it more than what you did? [19:21.000 --> 19:23.000] Yes, we have the capacity [19:23.000 --> 19:25.000] to release the train [19:25.000 --> 19:27.000] 8-9 hours in spring. [19:27.000 --> 19:29.000] In the spring it will take [19:29.000 --> 19:31.000] so that the train [19:31.000 --> 19:33.000] has been technically protected. [19:33.000 --> 19:35.000] We have assigned 40 people [19:35.000 --> 19:37.000] who do not have any other task [19:37.000 --> 19:39.000] than taking care of the passengers [19:39.000 --> 19:41.000] and giving information [19:41.000 --> 19:43.000] so that they come here in time. [19:43.000 --> 19:45.000] With the train [19:45.000 --> 19:47.000] there was a lot of delay then [19:47.000 --> 19:49.000] and you said that [19:49.000 --> 19:51.000] when you reached 10 years ago [19:51.000 --> 19:53.000] that the train should arrive in time [19:53.000 --> 19:55.000] that is my main goal. [19:55.000 --> 19:57.000] Did it stop at the top of your list? [19:57.000 --> 19:59.000] Yes, of course [19:59.000 --> 20:01.000] because first of all [20:01.000 --> 20:03.000] it is not fun. [20:03.000 --> 20:05.000] I think that everyone can understand [20:05.000 --> 20:07.000] that no one of us who works with this [20:07.000 --> 20:09.000] thinks that this feels nice. [20:09.000 --> 20:11.000] Then you have to say that [20:11.000 --> 20:13.000] 10 years ago [20:13.000 --> 20:15.000] we had significantly less traffic on the train. [20:15.000 --> 20:17.000] Then I started [20:17.000 --> 20:19.000] our traffic in the last 5 years [20:19.000 --> 20:21.000] we transported 10 million more passengers [20:21.000 --> 20:23.000] we increased it by 10% [20:23.000 --> 20:25.000] per year in 5 years [20:25.000 --> 20:27.000] and around the world [20:27.000 --> 20:29.000] all other train operators have also sought [20:29.000 --> 20:31.000] it is that the tracks are full [20:31.000 --> 20:33.000] and then it becomes very difficult [20:33.000 --> 20:35.000] to handle the traffic [20:35.000 --> 20:37.000] because the smallest disturbance [20:37.000 --> 20:39.000] will be shown in a traffic problem. [20:39.000 --> 20:41.000] So that makes the system [20:41.000 --> 20:43.000] really hyper sensitive [20:43.000 --> 20:45.000] and we have to get rid of that [20:45.000 --> 20:47.000] and that is what we try [20:47.000 --> 20:49.000] and Trafikverk and others try to do in a good way. [20:49.000 --> 20:51.000] So last winter we had a test [20:51.000 --> 20:53.000] both for SNR and for SIG [20:53.000 --> 20:55.000] we look at this [20:55.000 --> 20:57.000] basically we will have [20:57.000 --> 20:59.000] the same risk guarantee [20:59.000 --> 21:01.000] that we have had [21:01.000 --> 21:03.000] but we look at conditions [21:03.000 --> 21:05.000] where we are not worried about [21:05.000 --> 21:07.000] how we will handle these questions [21:07.000 --> 21:09.000] and how we can handle our progress [21:09.000 --> 21:11.000] in our tour, for example, Trafikverket [21:11.000 --> 21:13.000] or others. [21:13.000 --> 21:15.000] Are you saying that someone else is going to pay? [21:15.000 --> 21:17.000] No, what I am saying is that [21:17.000 --> 21:19.000] of course no one can leave guarantees [21:19.000 --> 21:21.000] in any uncertainty [21:21.000 --> 21:23.000] that you are not worried about. [21:23.000 --> 21:25.000] So there can be some restrictions [21:25.000 --> 21:27.000] when it comes to the risk guarantee. [21:27.000 --> 21:29.000] There can be some changes [21:29.000 --> 21:31.000] and which ones are, they will be returned. [21:31.000 --> 21:33.000] Jan Forsberg, after 10 years [21:33.000 --> 21:35.000] you are now going to leave SIG [21:35.000 --> 21:37.000] and leave [21:37.000 --> 21:39.000] what is the word you use in press conferences [21:39.000 --> 21:41.000] some others say that you got the spark, did you get it? [21:41.000 --> 21:43.000] Now it is like this [21:43.000 --> 21:45.000] to address this issue [21:45.000 --> 21:47.000] that I go to the pension [21:47.000 --> 21:49.000] in July 2013 [21:49.000 --> 21:51.000] we are working today [21:51.000 --> 21:53.000] with a change in our organization [21:53.000 --> 21:55.000] which is going to make us [21:55.000 --> 21:57.000] even more suitable [21:57.000 --> 21:59.000] to be able to handle our business in a good way. [21:59.000 --> 22:01.000] There will be quite a lot of changes [22:01.000 --> 22:03.000] at the same time that we will be effective. [22:03.000 --> 22:05.000] That part will be done [22:05.000 --> 22:07.000] in the next year [22:07.000 --> 22:09.000] and [22:09.000 --> 22:11.000] at that time there is one year left [22:11.000 --> 22:13.000] before I go to the pension [22:13.000 --> 22:15.000] and then it is alternative [22:15.000 --> 22:17.000] that I continue 6-9 months [22:17.000 --> 22:19.000] and get together with new people [22:19.000 --> 22:21.000] or that my successor [22:21.000 --> 22:23.000] will come now [22:23.000 --> 22:25.000] and take over [22:25.000 --> 22:27.000] Then we have come to the conclusion [22:27.000 --> 22:29.000] that this is the best solution [22:29.000 --> 22:31.000] so that it is an emergency that has been done [22:31.000 --> 22:33.000] If you get the spark or my definition [22:33.000 --> 22:35.000] you have missed a job or something like that [22:35.000 --> 22:37.000] and I think that SC is in control [22:37.000 --> 22:39.000] and SC is in control [22:39.000 --> 22:41.000] I think that under my time [22:41.000 --> 22:43.000] I have missed my job [22:43.000 --> 22:45.000] we have earned 3.8 billion to the camp [22:45.000 --> 22:47.000] and we have earned 900 million [22:47.000 --> 22:49.000] Thank you Jan Forsberg for coming here [22:49.000 --> 22:51.000] and we hope that the train rolls in order [22:51.000 --> 22:53.000] I agree with that [22:53.000 --> 23:17.000] This is Karin Västholm [23:17.000 --> 23:20.000] Karin thinks that she is so special [23:20.000 --> 23:23.000] but we see her in a different way [23:23.000 --> 23:27.000] because Karin is incredibly important [23:27.000 --> 23:29.000] What is the question? [23:29.000 --> 23:30.000] Yes Karin [23:30.000 --> 23:33.000] What the question is is the freedom [23:33.000 --> 23:35.000] that you and I [23:35.000 --> 23:37.000] get to see and hear something that [23:37.000 --> 23:39.000] would otherwise not have happened to us [23:39.000 --> 23:41.000] Smart, like a bread [23:41.000 --> 23:43.000] the big and the beautiful [23:43.000 --> 23:47.000] the alternative that gives us perspective on the situation [23:47.000 --> 23:51.000] So for us, you are the freedom [23:51.000 --> 23:53.000] That is why we say [23:53.000 --> 23:55.000] Thank you Karin [23:55.000 --> 23:58.000] for paying your radio and television service [24:08.000 --> 24:09.000] Hey [24:09.000 --> 24:11.000] You who live in Göteborg [24:11.000 --> 24:13.000] or Umeå [24:13.000 --> 24:17.000] You have not forgotten to pay the TV service [24:43.000 --> 25:00.000] To be continued...