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Secretary									Secretary
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weapons										weapons
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Russian										Russian
President									President
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Moscow										Moscow
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gas										gas
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today										today
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City										City
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Attorney									Attorney
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Jean										Jean
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former										former
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CDC										CDC
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approved									approved
updated										updated
COVID-19									COVID-19
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shots										shots
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latest										latest
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provide										provide
protection									protection
against										against
the										the
highly										highly
contagious									contagious
Omicron										Omicron
variant										variant
CDC										CDC
approval									approval
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hours										hours
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the										the
FDA										FDA
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today										today
stocks										stocks
ended										ended
slightly									slightly
lower										lower
after										after
news										news
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wholesale									wholesale
inflation									inflation
rose										rose
eight										eight
and										and
a										a
half										half
percent										percent
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September									September
from										from
a										a
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Dow										Dow
Jones										Jones
Industrial									Industrial
Average										Average
lost										lost
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NASDAQ										NASDAQ
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NewsHour									NewsHour
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student										student
loan										loan
forgiveness									forgiveness
plan										plan
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legal										legal
challenges									challenges
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country										country
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State										State
University									University
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Jones										Jones
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ordered										ordered
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massacre									massacre
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2012										2012
Jones										Jones
had										had
falsely										falsely
claimed										claimed
the										the
attack										attack
that										that
left										left
more										more
than										than
two										two
dozen										dozen
people										people
dead										dead
including									including
20										20
children									children
was										was
a										a
hoax										hoax
and										and
accused										accused
a										a
grieving									grieving
parent										parent
of										of
being										being
an										an
actor										actor
in										in
the										the
days										days
after										after
the										the
murders										murders
A										A
Texas										Texas
jury										jury
awarded										awarded
nearly										nearly
50										50
million										million
dollars										dollars
in										in
a										a
separate									separate
damages										damages
trial										trial
this										this
summer										summer
and										and
Jones										Jones
likely										likely
faces										faces
yet										yet
another										another
trial										trial
before										before
the										the
year										year
is										is
up										up
For										For
some										some
perspective									perspective
on										on
the										the
scope										scope
of										of
this										this
award										award
and										and
what										what
happens										happens
now										now
we										we
turn										turn
to										to
Jesse										Jesse
Gessen										Gessen
He's										He's
a										a
trial										trial
lawyer										lawyer
in										in
California									California
who										who
works										works
on										on
both										both
civil										civil
and										and
criminal									criminal
cases										cases
Mr										Mr
Gessen										Gessen
welcome										welcome
to										to
the										the
NewsHour									NewsHour
Thank										Thank
you										you
for										for
joining										joining
us										us
Let's										Let's
just										just
start										start
with										with
some										some
context										context
on										on
this										this
verdict										verdict
It										It
is										is
an										an
enormous									enormous
amount										amount
of										of
money										money
What										What
did										did
you										you
think										think
when										when
you										you
heard										heard
the										the
damages										damages
being										being
awarded										awarded
Wow										Wow
quite										quite
frankly										frankly
it's										it's
probably									probably
one										one
of										of
the										the
largest										largest
defamation									defamation
verdicts									verdicts
in										in
U.S									  |	US
history										history
Also										Also
it's										it's
compensatory									compensatory
meaning										meaning
that										that
there's										there's
still										still
going										going
to										to
be										be
punitive									punitive
damages										damages
which										which
could										could
be										be
up										up
to										to
10									  |	ten
times										times
as										as
much										much
under										under
the										the
U.S									  |	US
United										United
States										States
Constitution									Constitution
So										So
we're										we're
gonna										gonna
see										see
probably									probably
this										this
verdict										verdict
at										at
least										least
I										I
would										would
say										say
at										at
least										least
double										double
or										or
triple										triple
or										or
maybe										maybe
even										even
up										up
to										to
10									  |	ten
times										times
more										more
For										For
anyone										anyone
following									following
the										the
trial										trial
I										I
mean										mean
it										it
was										was
an										an
incredibly									incredibly
emotional									emotional
trial										trial
emotional									emotional
testimony									testimony
from										from
the										the
parents										parents
who've										who've
lost										lost
their										their
children									children
in										in
the										the
most										most
horrific									horrific
way										way
Does										Does
that										that
do										do
you										you
think										think
did										did
that										that
play										play
a										a
role										role
in										in
the										the
size										size
of										of
the										the
verdict										verdict
that										that
was										was
eventually									eventually
awarded										awarded
Assuredly									Assuredly
This										This
verdict										verdict
says										says
two										two
things										things
Number										Number
one										one
it										it
says										says
we										we
hate										hate
Alex										Alex
Jones										Jones
and										and
number										number
two										two
that										that
we										we
are										are
inflamed									inflamed
and										and
we										we
feel										feel
that										that
these										these
parents										parents
have										have
lost										lost
something									something
very										very
very										very
very										very
special										special
to										to
them										them
and										and
we're										we're
going										going
to										to
do										do
our										our
best										best
to										to
give										give
it										it
back										back
to										to
them										them
with										with
our										our
verdict										verdict
We										We
should										should
point										point
out										out
earlier										earlier
this										this
year										year
Infowars									Infowars
and										and
its										its
parent										parent
company										company
did										did
file										file
for										for
bankruptcy									bankruptcy
protections									protections
What										What
kind										kind
of										of
impact										impact
could										could
that										that
have										have
on										on
the										the
amount										amount
that's										that's
actually									actually
paid										paid
out										out
Well										Well
the										the
verdict										verdict
is										is
against										against
Alex										Alex
Jones										Jones
and										and
the										the
company										company
and										and
so										so
Alex										Alex
Jones										Jones
may										may
end										end
up										up
filing										filing
for										for
bankruptcy									bankruptcy
protection									protection
as										as
well										well
His										His
estimated									estimated
net										net
worth										worth
is										is
anywhere									anywhere
between										between
$135										$135
to										to
$270										$270
million										million
so										so
he										he
may										may
declare										declare
bankruptcy									bankruptcy
as										as
well										well
but										but
it										it
is										is
certainly									certainly
possible									possible
that										that
this										this
verdict										verdict
and										and
the										the
Texas										Texas
verdict										verdict
could										could
be										be
swept										swept
up										up
into										into
the										the
bankruptcy									bankruptcy
and										and
significantly									significantly
decreased									decreased
under										under
US										US
bankruptcy									bankruptcy
law										law
You										You
mentioned									mentioned
that										that
Texas										Texas
verdict										verdict
and										and
I										I
want										want
									  >	I
									  >	want
to										to
get										get
your										your
analysis									analysis
on										on
the										the
difference									difference
you										you
see										see
between										between
that										that
Texas										Texas
verdict										verdict
that										that
was										was
around										around
$50									  |	50
million										million
									  >	dollars
and										and
was										was
eventually									eventually
knocked										knocked
down										down
because										because
of										of
state										state
limits										limits
on										on
those										those
kinds										kinds
of										of
awards										awards
and										and
									  >	and
the										the
damages										damages
we										we
saw										saw
awarded										awarded
today										today
How										How
do										do
you										you
see										see
the										the
difference									difference
between										between
what										what
unfolded									unfolded
in										in
Texas										Texas
and										and
what										what
happened									happened
in										in
Connecticut									Connecticut
It's										It's
hard										hard
not										not
to										to
draw										draw
the										the
inference									inference
that										that
the										the
two										two
different									different
jury										jury
pools										pools
are										are
somewhat									somewhat
politically									politically
motivated									motivated
The										The
compensatory									compensatory
damages										damages
in										in
the										the
Texas										Texas
verdict										verdict
was										was
$4									  |	four
million										million
									  >	dollars
The										The
compensatory									compensatory
damages										damages
in										in
the										the
Connecticut									Connecticut
verdict										verdict
is										is
$965									  |	nine
									  >	hundred
									  >	and
									  >	sixty
									  >	five
million										million
									  >	dollars
That's										That's
a										a
$961									  |	nine
									  >	hundred
									  >	and
									  >	sixty
									  >	one
million										million
									  >	dollar
difference									difference
in										in
compensatory									compensatory
damages										damages
We										We
still										still
have										have
to										to
see										see
punitive									punitive
damages										damages
in										in
Connecticut									Connecticut
so										so
									  >	that
the										the
difference									difference
could										could
be										be
even										even
far										far
more										more
striking									striking
I										I
think										think
it's										it's
safe										safe
to										to
say										say
that										that
the										the
Connecticut									Connecticut
verdict										verdict
is										is
a										a
far										far
									  >	liberal
more										more
liberal										liberal
jury										jury
pool										pool
and										and
that										that
had										had
to										to
have										have
factored									factored
into										into
									  >	into
their										their
verdict										verdict
We										We
should										should
also										also
point										point
out										out
we										we
learned										learned
later										later
today										today
that										that
Jones's										Jones's
lawyer										lawyer
has										has
said										said
they										they
do										do
plan										plan
to										to
appeal										appeal
but										but
Mr										Mr
Gesson									  |	Gessen
we										we
should										should
remind										remind
folks										folks
Mr										Mr
Jones										Jones
was										was
spreading									spreading
these										these
lies										lies
for										for
years										years
									  >	right
saying										saying
that										that
the										the
whole										whole
attack										attack
was										was
a										a
hoax										hoax
that										that
in										in
some										some
cases										cases
parents										parents
were										were
responsible									responsible
for										for
the										the
deaths										deaths
of										of
their										their
own										own
children									children
He's										He's
not										not
alone										alone
in										in
spreading									spreading
some										some
of										of
these										these
lies										lies
though										though
and										and
I										I
wonder										wonder
as										as
you										you
look										look
at										at
this										this
moment										moment
what										what
you										you
think										think
this										this
verdict										verdict
says										says
in										in
the										the
way										way
of										of
a										a
message										message
it										it
sends										sends
about										about
the										the
legal										legal
landscape									landscape
surrounding									surrounding
how										how
holding										holding
those										those
who										who
spread										spread
misinformation									misinformation
accountable									accountable
in										in
some										some
way										way
Well										Well
if										if
you're										you're
profiting									profiting
off										off
of										of
conspiracy									conspiracy
theories									theories
that										that
are										are
defamatory									defamatory
that										that
are										are
obviously									obviously
false										false
you										you
need										need
to										to
watch										watch
yourself									yourself
A									  |	and
									  >	a
litigant									litigant
can										can
									  >	prosper
clearly										clearly
prosper										prosper
in										in
two										two
very										very
separate									separate
forms									  |	forums
									  >	and
and										and
I										I
think										think
that										that
it										it
sends										sends
a										a
strong										strong
message										message
to										to
people										people
that										that
are										are
making										making
money										money
on										on
lies										lies
Especially								  |	and
									  >	especially
given										given
that										that
this										this
isn't										isn't
the										the
end										end
									  >	there's
									  >	a
we										we
have										have
the										the
punitive									punitive
damages										damages
verdict										verdict
and										and
then										then
we										we
also										also
have										have
a										a
third										third
Sandy										Sandy
Hook										Hook
lawsuit										lawsuit
So										So
I										I
think										think
that										that
it										it
sends										sends
a										a
strong										strong
message										message
to										to
people										people
who										who
are										are
in										in
the										the
business									business
of										of
peddling									peddling
conspiracies									conspiracies
That										That
is										is
Jesse										Jesse
Gesson									  |	Gessen
a										a
trial										trial
attorney									attorney
in										in
California									California
joining										joining
us										us
tonight										tonight
Mr										Mr
Gesson									  |	Gessen
thank										thank
you										you
for										for
your										your
time										time
Thank										Thank
you										you
for										for
having										having
me										me
Well										Well
relations									relations
between										between
the										the
White										White
House										House
and										and
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia's									Arabia's
ruling										ruling
royal										royal
family										family
are										are
at										at
a										a
low										low
point										point
and										and
may										may
be										be
set										set
to										to
dive										dive
even										even
lower										lower
From									  |	from
President									President
Biden's										Biden's
fighting									fighting
words										words
on										on
the										the
campaign									campaign
trail										trail
to										to
recent										recent
Saudi-led									Saudi-led
cuts										cuts
in										in
global										global
oil										oil
supplies									supplies
the									  |	The
status										status
of										of
the										the
more										more
than										than
75										75
year										year
old										old
alliance									alliance
is										is
troubled									troubled
and										and
many										many
in										in
the										the
administration									administration
and										and
on										on
Capitol										Capitol
Hill										Hill
want										want
to										to
reset										reset
Nick										Nick
Schifrin									Schifrin
begins										begins
our										our
coverage									coverage
One										One
of										of
the										the
most										most
colorful									colorful
visits										visits
to										to
the										the
presidential									presidential
cruiser										cruiser
was										was
that										that
of										of
the										the
ruler										ruler
of										of
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
America's									America's
longest										longest
relationship									relationship
with										with
an										an
Arab										Arab
state										state
began										began
77										77
years										years
ago										ago
Four-time									Four-time
elected										elected
US										US
President									President
Franklin									Franklin
Roosevelt									Roosevelt
and										and
Ibn										Ibn
Saud										Saud
the										the
warrior										warrior
monarch										monarch
backed										backed
by										by
a										a
fanatical									fanatical
clergy										clergy
created										created
a										a
fundamental									fundamental
agreement									agreement
American									American
security									security
in										in
exchange									exchange
for										for
Saudi										Saudi
energy										energy
But										But
today										today
that										that
agreement									agreement
must										must
be										be
re-examined									re-examined
President									President
Biden										Biden
told										told
CNN's										CNN's
Jake										Jake
Tapper										Tapper
last										last
night										night
There's										There's
gonna										gonna
be										be
some										some
consequences									consequences
for										for
what										what
they've										they've
done										done
with										with
Russia										Russia
What										What
the										the
Saudis										Saudis
did										did
with										with
fellow										fellow
OPEC										OPEC
leader										leader
Russia										Russia
is										is
the										the
largest										largest
oil										oil
production									production
cut										cut
in										in
more										more
than										than
two										two
years										years
over										over
US										US
warnings									warnings
It										It
was										was
announced									announced
by										by
OPEC										OPEC
Secretary									Secretary
General										General
Haitham										Haitham
al-Ghais								  |	al-Ghaïs
We										We
are										are
not										not
endangering									endangering
the										the
energy										energy
markets										markets
We										We
are										are
providing									providing
security									security
stability									stability
to										to
the										the
energy										energy
markets										markets
Everything									Everything
has										has
a										a
price										price
Including									Including
the										the
US-Saudi									US-Saudi
relationship									relationship
In										In
the										the
1970s										1970s
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
helped										helped
lead										lead
an										an
oil										oil
embargo										embargo
over										over
US										US
support										support
for										for
Israel										Israel
You										You
have										have
declared									declared
a										a
jihad										jihad
against										against
the										the
United										United
States										States
Can										Can
you										you
tell										tell
us										us
why										why
The										The
kingdom										kingdom
claims										claims
it										it
fights										fights
the										the
fires										fires
of										of
radicalism									radicalism
but										but
critics										critics
call										call
it										it
the										the
arsonist									arsonist
The										The
Saudi										Saudi
Osama										Osama
bin										bin
Laden										Laden
sparked										sparked
global										global
attacks										attacks
against										against
the										the
West										West
and										and
its										its
Arab										Arab
allies										allies
15										15
of										of
9-11										9-11
hijackers									hijackers
were										were
Saudi										Saudi
And										And
decades										decades
of										of
criticism									criticism
of										of
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia's									Arabia's
poor										poor
human										human
rights										rights
record										record
crescendoed									crescendoed
in										in
2018										2018
after										after
journalist									journalist
Jamal										Jamal
Khashoggi									Khashoggi
walked										walked
into										into
the										the
Saudi										Saudi
Istanbul's									Istanbul's
consulate									consulate
was										was
murdered									murdered
and										and
cut										cut
into										into
pieces										pieces
The										The
US										US
intelligence									intelligence
community									community
assessed									assessed
the										the
operation									operation
was										was
approved									approved
by										by
the										the
kingdom's									kingdom's
powerful									powerful
crown										crown
prince										prince
and										and
future										future
king										king
Mohammed									Mohammed
bin										bin
Salman										Salman
The										The
following									following
year										year
candidate									candidate
Joe										Joe
Biden										Biden
promised									promised
punishment									punishment
We										We
were										were
going										going
to										to
in										in
fact										fact
make										make
them										them
pay										pay
the										the
price										price
and										and
make										make
them										them
in										in
fact										fact
the										the
pariah										pariah
that										that
they										they
are										are
But										But
that										that
proved										proved
to										to
be										be
a										a
speed										speed
bump										bump
that										that
preceded									preceded
this										this
year's										year's
fist										fist
bump										bump
President									President
Biden										Biden
and										and
his										his
team										team
worked										worked
with										with
MBS										MBS
in										in
acknowledgement									acknowledgement
the										the
kingdom										kingdom
has										has
helped										helped
the										the
US										US
for										for
decades										decades
across										across
continents									continents
In										In
the										the
late										late
70s										70s
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
provided									provided
crucial										crucial
support										support
for										for
the										the
Afghan										Afghan
Mujahideen									Mujahideen
to										to
defeat										defeat
the										the
Soviet										Soviet
military									military
and										and
help										help
collapse									collapse
the										the
Soviet										Soviet
Union										Union
In										In
the										the
early										early
90s										90s
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
invited										invited
the										the
largest										largest
US										US
overseas									overseas
deployment									deployment
in										in
decades										decades
US										US
troops										troops
used										used
the										the
kingdom										kingdom
as										as
a										a
base										base
to										to
fight										fight
the										the
Gulf										Gulf
War										War
After										After
9-11										9-11
the										the
Bush										Bush
administration									administration
held										held
on										on
to										to
the										the
alliance									alliance
to										to
cooperate									cooperate
on										on
terrorism									terrorism
and										and
target										target
al-Qaeda									al-Qaeda
And										And
in										in
2017										2017
President									President
Trump										Trump
made										made
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
his										his
first										first
overseas									overseas
stop										stop
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
and										and
its										its
allies										allies
helped										helped
shift										shift
US										US
regional									regional
policy										policy
And										And
Riyadh-Washington								Riyadh-Washington
cooperation									cooperation
helped										helped
lead										lead
to										to
the										the
historic									historic
2020										2020
normalization									normalization
agreements									agreements
between										between
Israel										Israel
Bahrain										Bahrain
and										and
the										the
UAE										UAE
Today										Today
the										the
Biden										Biden
administration									administration
is										is
releasing									releasing
our										our
national									national
security									security
strategy									strategy
Today										Today
the										the
US										US
acknowledges									acknowledges
it's										it's
well										well
aware										aware
that										that
the										the
relationship									relationship
provides									provides
benefits									benefits
but										but
the										the
administration									administration
will										will
review										review
the										the
relationship									relationship
and										and
consult										consult
lawmakers									lawmakers
including									including
Democrats									Democrats
who										who
today										today
called										called
for										for
a										a
one-year									one-year
block										block
on										on
weapons										weapons
sales										sales
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
has										has
broken										broken
trust										trust
with										with
America										America
and										and
it										it
needs										needs
to										to
come										come
to										to
its										its
senses										senses
The										The
US-									  |	US
Saudi										Saudi
relationship									relationship
has										has
survived									survived
previous									previous
challenges									challenges
The										The
administration									administration
says										says
there's										there's
no										no
timetable									timetable
for										for
its										its
review										review
For										For
the										the
PBS										PBS
NewsHour									NewsHour
I'm										I'm
Nick										Nick
Schifrin									Schifrin
Representative									Representative
Ro										Ro
Khanna										Khanna
of										of
California									California
is										is
a										a
member										member
of										of
the										the
House										House
Armed										Armed
Services									Services
Committee									Committee
and										and
is										is
spearheading									spearheading
the										the
House										House
version										version
of										of
that										that
bill										bill
to										to
end										end
US										US
arms										arms
sales										sales
to										to
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
for										for
one										one
year										year
He										He
joins										joins
me										me
now										now
Congressman									Congressman
welcome										welcome
back										back
to										to
the										the
NewsHour									NewsHour
Thank										Thank
you										you
for										for
joining										joining
us										us
You										You
have										have
said										said
the										the
US										US
needs										needs
to										to
immediately									immediately
immediately									immediately
halt										halt
those										those
arms										arms
sales										sales
We										We
should										should
note										note
this										this
has										has
been										been
proposed									proposed
before										before
and										and
many										many
times										times
by										by
many										many
other										other
people										people
It										It
has										has
never										never
moved										moved
forward										forward
Why										Why
do										do
you										you
think										think
that										that
this										this
moment										moment
is										is
different									different
This										This
is										is
a										a
defining									defining
moment										moment
just										just
like										like
the										the
War										War
Powers										Powers
resolution								  |	Resolution
that										that
stopped										stopped
the										the
refueling									refueling
of										of
the										the
Saudi										Saudi
Plains										Plains
that										that
Senator										Senator
Sanders										Sanders
and										and
I										I
led										led
pass										pass
after										after
Khashoggi's									Khashoggi's
murder										murder
This										This
is										is
another										another
moment										moment
that										that
has										has
really										really
outraged									outraged
people										people
on										on
both										both
sides										sides
of										of
the										the
aisle										aisle
on										on
Capitol										Capitol
Hill										Hill
It's										It's
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia's									Arabia's
ingratitude									ingratitude
We										We
provide										provide
them										them
with										with
70-some									  |	70
									  >	some
percent										percent
of										of
their										their
arms										arms
We										We
stood										stood
up										up
for										for
them										them
when										when
Saddam										Saddam
Hussein										Hussein
was										was
going										going
to										to
invade										invade
after										after
Saddam										Saddam
had										had
invaded										invaded
Kuwait										Kuwait
and										and
Saudi										Saudi
Plains										Plains
literally									literally
couldn't									couldn't
fly										fly
if										if
it										it
weren't										weren't
for										for
American									American
technicians									technicians
Yet										Yet
they										they
are										are
fleecing									fleecing
the										the
American									American
public										public
making										making
about										about
a										a
hundred										hundred
billion										billion
dollars										dollars
in										in
2022										2022
There										There
need										need
to										to
be										be
consequences									consequences
We										We
provide										provide
them										them
with										with
all										all
those										those
things										things
you										you
just										just
listed										listed
but										but
also										also
they										they
provide										provide
us										us
with										with
crucial										crucial
intelligence									intelligence
counterterrorism							  |	counter-terrorism
intelligence									intelligence
specifically									specifically
the										the
US										US
relies										relies
on										on
for										for
national									national
security									security
purposes									purposes
Could										Could
imposing									imposing
consequences									consequences
in										in
whatever									whatever
form										form
compromise									compromise
US										US
national									national
security									security
No										No
it										it
will										will
not										not
They										They
are										are
far										far
more										more
reliant										reliant
on										on
us										us
In										In
fact										fact
the										the
defense										defense
agreements									agreements
that										that
we										we
have										have
the										the
joint										joint
defense										defense
initiatives									initiatives
are										are
more										more
extensive									extensive
than										than
almost										almost
any										any
other										other
major										major
ally										ally
and										and
that's										that's
all										all
to										to
Saudis										Saudis
benefit										benefit
The										The
production									production
is										is
there										there
the										the
jobs										jobs
are										are
there										there
So										So
they										they
are										are
far										far
more										more
dependent									dependent
on										on
us										us
and										and
they										they
already										already
are										are
making										making
these										these
drastic										drastic
cuts										cuts
and										and
they're										they're
making										making
drastic										drastic
cuts										cuts
at										at
a										a
time										time
when										when
they're										they're
making										making
70%										70%
profit										profit
margins										margins
on										on
each										each
barrel										barrel
of										of
oil										oil
Why										Why
are										are
they										they
doing										doing
it										it
They're										They're
doing										doing
it										it
to										to
help										help
Putin										Putin
because										because
Putin										Putin
doesn't										doesn't
have										have
those										those
profit										profit
margins										margins
He's										He's
selling										selling
his										his
oil										oil
at										at
a										a
discount									discount
of										of
$35										$35
a										a
barrel										barrel
to										to
China										China
and										and
other										other
countries									countries
So										So
to										to
appease										appease
Putin										Putin
they're										they're
hurting										hurting
the										the
American									American
consumer									consumer
at										at
the										the
pump										pump
and										and
that's										that's
just										just
won't										won't
stand										stand
and										and
we										we
have										have
far										far
more										more
leverage									leverage
over										over
them										them
than										than
they										they
do										do
over										over
us										us
We										We
are										are
assuming									assuming
also										also
that										that
leverage									leverage
would										would
force										force
them										them
to										to
move										move
away										away
from										from
Russia										Russia
but										but
it										it
is										is
a										a
gamble										gamble
What										What
if										if
it										it
backfires									backfires
What										What
if										if
they										they
further										further
cut										cut
oil										oil
production									production
What										What
if										if
they										they
just										just
end										end
up										up
moving										moving
further										further
towards										towards
Russia										Russia
and										and
China										China
Well										Well
they										they
cannot										cannot
move										move
further										further
towards										towards
Russia										Russia
and										and
China										China
in										in
the										the
near										near
term										term
It										It
would										would
take										take
almost										almost
10										10
years										years
for										for
them										them
to										to
be										be
able										able
to										to
get										get
the										the
weapons										weapons
that										that
we										we
provide										provide
just										just
because										because
of										of
interoperability								interoperability
of										of
these										these
weapons										weapons
and										and
literally									literally
the										the
Air										Air
Force										Force
would										would
be										be
grounded									grounded
to										to
a										a
halt										halt
tomorrow									tomorrow
if										if
they										they
didn't										didn't
have										have
American									American
technicians									technicians
and										and
now										now
maybe										maybe
it										it
would										would
take										take
years										years
for										for
them										them
to										to
build										build
with										with
Russia										Russia
and										and
China										China
but										but
they										they
simply										simply
could										could
not										not
do										do
that										that
In										In
terms										terms
of										of
cuts										cuts
they've										they've
cut										cut
already										already
so										so
far										far
I										I
don't										don't
think										think
further										further
cuts										cuts
would										would
be										be
possible									possible
They										They
were										were
talking										talking
about										about
a										a
million										million
barrels										barrels
of										of
cut										cut
they've										they've
cut										cut
two										two
million										million
barrels										barrels
and										and
other										other
countries									countries
in										in
OPEC										OPEC
the										the
UAE										UAE
Kuwait										Kuwait
would										would
make										make
up										up
for										for
it										it
if										if
they										they
went										went
for										for
further										further
cuts										cuts
so										so
they										they
already										already
have										have
taken										taken
the										the
most										most
drastic										drastic
action										action
What										What
about										about
Iran										Iran
in										in
all										all
this										this
Representative									Representative
Khanna										Khanna
I										I
mean										mean
none										none
of										of
this										this
unfolds										unfolds
in										in
a										a
vacuum										vacuum
The										The
US										US
foreign										foreign
policy										policy
in										in
the										the
region										region
is										is
structured									structured
largely										largely
around										around
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
Just										Just
this										this
summer										summer
the										the
US										US
approved									approved
two										two
new										new
massive										massive
arms										arms
deals										deals
for										for
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
and										and
the										the
United										United
Arab										Arab
Emirates									Emirates
specifically									specifically
to										to
help										help
them										them
defend										defend
against										against
Iran										Iran
Does										Does
cutting										cutting
Saudi										Saudi
arms										arms
sales										sales
empower										empower
Iran										Iran
No										No
it										it
doesn't										doesn't
and										and
I										I
was										was
opposed										opposed
to										to
those										those
arms										arms
sales										sales
Let's										Let's
not										not
forget										forget
that										that
the										the
Saudis										Saudis
are										are
responsible									responsible
for										for
one										one
of										of
the										the
biggest										biggest
humanitarian									humanitarian
crisis										crisis
in										in
the										the
world										world
in										in
Yemen										Yemen
It										It
is										is
appalling									appalling
what										what
they've										they've
done										done
to										to
the										the
children									children
there										there
It's										It's
appalling									appalling
the										the
starvation									starvation
they've										they've
caused										caused
It's										It's
appalling									appalling
that										that
they're										they're
continuing									continuing
to										to
blockade									blockade
Now										Now
the										the
Houthis										Houthis
are										are
also										also
to										to
blame										blame
and										and
the										the
Iranians									Iranians
are										are
to										to
blame										blame
in										in
Yemen										Yemen
as										as
well										well
but										but
the										the
Saudis										Saudis
have										have
been										been
the										the
principal									principal
perpetrators									perpetrators
of										of
that										that
war										war
and										and
so										so
I										I
don't										don't
think										think
that										that
									  >	the
									  >	balance
cutting										cutting
off										off
these										these
arms										arms
sales										sales
are										are
suddenly									suddenly
going										going
to										to
make										make
them										them
vulnerable									vulnerable
to										to
Iran										Iran
and										and
I've										I've
spoken										spoken
out										out
very										very
strongly									strongly
for										for
the										the
students									students
for										for
the										the
women										women
protesting									protesting
in										in
Iran										Iran
I										I
believe										believe
there										there
are										are
other										other
ways										ways
that										that
we										we
can										can
contain										contain
Iran										Iran
but										but
we										we
should										should
not										not
use										use
a										a
Kissingerian									Kissingerian
balance										balance
of										of
power										power
where										where
we										we
end										end
up										up
supporting									supporting
brutal										brutal
dictators									dictators
at										at
the										the
expense										expense
of										of
our										our
own										own
public										public
because										because
of										of
some										some
balance										balance
of										of
power										power
politics									politics
in										in
the										the
Middle										Middle
East										East
What										What
do										do
you										you
believe										believe
the										the
President									President
Biden										Biden
could										could
have										have
done										done
differently									differently
in										in
this										this
moment										moment
I										I
mean										mean
he										he
went										went
from										from
calling										calling
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
a										a
pariah										pariah
to										to
visiting									visiting
Crown										Crown
Prince										Prince
Mohammed									Mohammed
bin										bin
Salman										Salman
in										in
July										July
at										at
the										the
fist										fist
bump										bump
scene										scene
around										around
the										the
world										world
Do										Do
you										you
think										think
there's										there's
anything									anything
that										that
the										the
president									president
of										of
this										this
administration									administration
could										could
have										have
done										done
differently									differently
to										to
avoid										avoid
this										this
moment										moment
Yes										Yes
I										I
don't										don't
think										think
he										he
should										should
have										have
gone										gone
to										to
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
Senator										Senator
Sanders										Sanders
and										and
I										I
took										took
to										to
the										the
papers										papers
to										to
say										say
that										that
Trip										Trip
was										was
misguided									misguided
I										I
believe										believe
he										he
should										should
have										have
been										been
clearer										clearer
with										with
the										the
Saudis										Saudis
that										that
there										there
would										would
be										be
very										very
drastic										drastic
consequences									consequences
both										both
if										if
they										they
didn't										didn't
lift										lift
the										the
blockade									blockade
which										which
they										they
still										still
haven't										haven't
in										in
Yemen										Yemen
and										and
now										now
they're										they're
talking										talking
about										about
actually									actually
not										not
following									following
through										through
on										on
the										the
truce										truce
in										in
Yemen										Yemen
but										but
certainly									certainly
extraordinarily									extraordinarily
drastic										drastic
consequences									consequences
if										if
they										they
cut										cut
oil										oil
production									production
So										So
I										I
believe										believe
that										that
he										he
could										could
have										have
been										been
clearer										clearer
on										on
all										all
of										of
those										those
things										things
Now										Now
I'm										I'm
glad										glad
that										that
he's										he's
contemplating									contemplating
action										action
now										now
and										and
my										my
belief										belief
is										is
if										if
we										we
are										are
tough										tough
enough										enough
they										they
will										will
reverse										reverse
the										the
decision									decision
You										You
said										said
he's										he's
contemplating									contemplating
action										action
We've										We've
heard										heard
the										the
word										word
when										when
says										says
but										but
no										no
specifics									specifics
In										In
your										your
talks										talks
with										with
the										the
administration									administration
how										how
serious										serious
are										are
they										they
in										in
imposing									imposing
serious										serious
and										and
immediate									immediate
consequences									consequences
They										They
have										have
told										told
me										me
that										that
the										the
president									president
is										is
going										going
to										to
take										take
action										action
that										that
the										the
president									president
is										is
re-examining									re-examining
the										the
Saudi										Saudi
relationship									relationship
and										and
that										that
the										the
action										action
is										is
imminent									imminent
and										and
so										so
I										I
believe										believe
the										the
president									president
has										has
to										to
act										act
How										How
can										can
you										you
allow										allow
a										a
country										country
that										that
is										is
a										a
quote-unquote									quote-unquote
ally										ally
to										to
continue									continue
to										to
profit										profit
of										of
the										the
American									American
public										public
and										and
make										make
drastic										drastic
cuts										cuts
when										when
we're										we're
going										going
through										through
one										one
of										of
the										the
bigger										bigger
energy										energy
crisis										crisis
we										we
have										have
in										in
recent										recent
decades										decades
Allies										Allies
don't										don't
treat										treat
each										each
other										other
that										that
way										way
More										More
broadly										broadly
US										US
officials									officials
did										did
reportedly									reportedly
warn										warn
Saudi										Saudi
leaders										leaders
that										that
a										a
cut										cut
in										in
production									production
would										would
be										be
seen										seen
as										as
a										a
clear										clear
choice										choice
they're										they're
siding										siding
with										with
Russia										Russia
and										and
the										the
Saudis										Saudis
did										did
it										it
anyway										anyway
What										What
does										does
that										that
say										say
to										to
you										you
about										about
how										how
they										they
view										view
the										the
US										US
right										right
now										now
Well										Well
they										they
don't										don't
think										think
that										that
they're										they're
going										going
to										to
be										be
consequences									consequences
but										but
I										I
believe										believe
they										they
should										should
take										take
a										a
temperature									temperature
one										one
of										of
many										many
of										of
the										the
younger										younger
members										members
of										of
Congress									Congress
who										who
aren't										aren't
steeped										steeped
in										in
the										the
same										same
traditional									traditional
relationship									relationship
with										with
Saudi										Saudi
who										who
basically									basically
know										know
Saudi										Saudi
Arabia										Arabia
through										through
the										the
prism										prism
of										of
the										the
Yemen										Yemen
war										war
and										and
the										the
humanitarian									humanitarian
crisis										crisis
that										that
they										they
have										have
caused										caused
They										They
should										should
remember									remember
that										that
the										the
War										War
Powers										Powers
Resolution									Resolution
stopping									stopping
our										our
aid										aid
passed										passed
the										the
House										House
and										and
the										the
Senate										Senate
the										the
only										only
time										time
a										a
War										War
Powers										Powers
Resolution									Resolution
has										has
ever										ever
passed										passed
and										and
they										they
should										should
know										know
that										that
now										now
they're										they're
going										going
to										to
be										be
consequences									consequences
You										You
have										have
not										not
just										just
Senator										Senator
Blumenthal									Blumenthal
and										and
I										I
calling										calling
for										for
it										it
but										but
Senator										Senator
Menendez									Menendez
a										a
very										very
respected									respected
foreign										foreign
policy										policy
voice										voice
who										who
chairs										chairs
the										the
Senate										Senate
Foreign										Foreign
Relations									Relations
Committee									Committee
calling										calling
for										for
it										it
So										So
they										they
are										are
really										really
hurting										hurting
their										their
relationship									relationship
on										on
the										the
Hill										Hill
Briefly										Briefly
if										if
you										you
can										can
Representative									Representative
the										the
Saudis										Saudis
have										have
said										said
this										this
was										was
economic									economic
their										their
decision									decision
to										to
cut										cut
oil										oil
production									production
Do										Do
you										you
believe										believe
it										it
had										had
anything									anything
to										to
do										do
with										with
the										the
timing										timing
of										of
the										the
upcoming									upcoming
midterm										midterm
elections									elections
I										I
don't										don't
know										know
but										but
I										I
know										know
it's										it's
not										not
economic									economic
when										when
they										they
were										were
baking										baking
over										over
70%										70%
profits										profits
on										on
your										your
barrels										barrels
of										of
oil										oil
Look										Look
I've										I've
been										been
critical									critical
effects										effects
on										on
and										and
Chevron										Chevron
but										but
it										it
pales										pales
into										into
the										the
comparison									comparison
into										into
what										what
the										the
Saudis										Saudis
are										are
making										making
on										on
oil										oil
So										So
what										what
I										I
do										do
know										know
is										is
that										that
they										they
have										have
chosen										chosen
deliberately									deliberately
to										to
hurt										hurt
Americans									Americans
at										at
the										the
pump										pump
Look										Look
I										I
don't										don't
think										think
the										the
timing										timing
is										is
coincidental									coincidental
but										but
I										I
have										have
no										no
evidence									evidence
of										of
why										why
they've										they've
taken										taken
that										that
decision									decision
All										All
I										I
know										know
is										is
that										that
they're										they're
hurting										hurting
the										the
American									American
public										public
That										That
is										is
Representative									Representative
Ro										Ro
Khanna										Khanna
Democrat									Democrat
from										from
California									California
and										and
member										member
of										of
the										the
House										House
Armed										Armed
Services									Services
Committee									Committee
Thank										Thank
you										you
so										so
much										much
for										for
your										your
time										time
Thank										Thank
you										you
President									President
Biden's										Biden's
executive									executive
order										order
to										to
cancel										cancel
student										student
debt										debt
is										is
facing										facing
its										its
most										most
serious										serious
legal										legal
challenge									challenge
to										to
date										date
A										A
federal										federal
judge										judge
in										in
Missouri									Missouri
heard										heard
arguments									arguments
today										today
from										from
six										six
states										states
hoping										hoping
to										to
block										block
the										the
plan										plan
from										from
taking										taking
effect										effect
to										to
qualify										qualify
for										for
the										the
student										student
loan										loan
program										program
Individuals									Individuals
must										must
make										make
less										less
than										than
a										a
hundred										hundred
and										and
twenty-five									twenty-five
thousand									thousand
dollars										dollars
a										a
year										year
or										or
two										two
hundred										hundred
and										and
fifty										fifty
thousand									thousand
for										for
married										married
couples										couples
and										and
families									families
Eligible									Eligible
borrowers									borrowers
can										can
receive										receive
up										up
to										to
ten										ten
thousand									thousand
dollars										dollars
in										in
forgiveness									forgiveness
or										or
up										up
to										to
twenty										twenty
thousand									thousand
dollars										dollars
if										if
they										they
are										are
Pell										Pell
Grant										Grant
recipients									recipients
White										White
House										House
correspondent									correspondent
Laura										Laura
Barone										Barone
Lopez										Lopez
has										has
been										been
following									following
it										it
all										all
and										and
she										she
joins										joins
me										me
now										now
as										as
part										part
of										of
our										our
series										series
Rethinking									Rethinking
College										College
Laura										Laura
good										good
to										to
see										see
you										you
Good										Good
to										to
see										see
you										you
So										So
let's										let's
talk										talk
about										about
this										this
case										case
that										that
was										was
heard										heard
today										today
in										in
Missouri									Missouri
What										What
exactly										exactly
are										are
the										the
states										states
arguing										arguing
So										So
there										there
are										are
six										six
Republican									Republican
states										states
including									including
Nebraska									Nebraska
Missouri									Missouri
Arkansas									Arkansas
and										and
they're										they're
arguing										arguing
that										that
the										the
administration's								administration's
debt										debt
relief										relief
program										program
is										is
illegal										illegal
on										on
three										three
fronts										fronts
Those										Those
three										three
fronts										fronts
are										are
that										that
the										the
administration									administration
lacks										lacks
authority									authority
that										that
they										they
did										did
not										not
follow										follow
administrative									administrative
procedure									procedure
and										and
that										that
it										it
harms										harms
state										state
revenue										revenue
So										So
today										today
we										we
spoke										spoke
to										to
Arkansas									Arkansas
Attorney									Attorney
General										General
Leslie										Leslie
Rutledge									Rutledge
and										and
she										she
really										really
focused										focused
on										on
whether										whether
or										or
not										not
the										the
president									president
has										has
authority									authority
to										to
do										do
this										this
and										and
took										took
direct										direct
aim										aim
at										at
him										him
The										The
president									president
did										did
not										not
have										have
the										the
authority									authority
to										to
make										make
this										this
decision									decision
He										He
made										made
this										this
decision									decision
and										and
based										based
it										it
on										on
the										the
Heroes										Heroes
Act										Act
which										which
essentially									essentially
was										was
put										put
in										in
place										place
during										during
the										the
Iraq										Iraq
War										War
in										in
order										order
to										to
give										give
relief										relief
to										to
our										our
brave										brave
men										men
and										and
women										women
in										in
uniform										uniform
and										and
it										it
was										was
also										also
as										as
part										part
of										of
it										it
it										it
could										could
be										be
used										used
during										during
a										a
national									national
emergency									emergency
Unfortunately									Unfortunately
President									President
Biden										Biden
forgot										forgot
that										that
he										he
declared									declared
the										the
pandemic									pandemic
over										over
a										a
few										few
short										short
weeks										weeks
ago										ago
As										As
you										you
heard										heard
Attorney									Attorney
General										General
Rutledge									Rutledge
there										there
saying										saying
that										that
she										she
thinks										thinks
the										the
president									president
doesn't										doesn't
have										have
this										this
authority									authority
but										but
what										what
was										was
interesting									interesting
in										in
the										the
arguments									arguments
today										today
was										was
that										that
the										the
Missouri									Missouri
judge										judge
Henry										Henry
Autry										Autry
essentially									essentially
really										really
scrutinized									scrutinized
that										that
saying										saying
why										why
is										is
the										the
president									president
being										being
sued										sued
as										as
a										a
part										part
of										of
this										this
lawsuit										lawsuit
and										and
questioning									questioning
whether										whether
or										or
not										not
the										the
Republican									Republican
states										states
had										had
standing									standing
against										against
the										the
president									president
versus										versus
standing									standing
against										against
the										the
Education									Education
Department									Department
and										and
the										the
Education									Education
Secretary									Secretary
So										So
a										a
main										main
part										part
of										of
their										their
argument									argument
is										is
the										the
administration									administration
doesn't										doesn't
even										even
have										have
the										the
authority									authority
to										to
do										do
this										this
What										What
has										has
the										the
Biden										Biden
administration									administration
been										been
saying										saying
about										about
this										this
The										The
Biden										Biden
administration									administration
is										is
essentially									essentially
saying										saying
that										that
they										they
were										were
granted										granted
this										this
authority									authority
under										under
a										a
2003										2003
higher										higher
education									education
law										law
also										also
known										known
as										as
the										the
Heroes										Heroes
Act										Act
and										and
so										so
today										today
Deputy										Deputy
Assistant									Assistant
Attorney									Attorney
General										General
Brian										Brian
Netter										Netter
argued										argued
that										that
the										the
pandemic									pandemic
gives										gives
them										them
this										this
authority									authority
It's										It's
crucial										crucial
here										here
that										that
this										this
is										is
a										a
statute										statute
about										about
emergencies									emergencies
It's										It's
a										a
statute										statute
about										about
national									national
emergencies									emergencies
and										and
it										it
seems										seems
hard										hard
to										to
fathom										fathom
that										that
Congress									Congress
wouldn't									wouldn't
have										have
understood									understood
at										at
the										the
time										time
that										that
a										a
larger										larger
national									national
emergency									emergency
is										is
going										going
to										to
prompt										prompt
and										and
necessitate									necessitate
a										a
larger										larger
action										action
by										by
the										the
Secretary									Secretary
of										of
Education									Education
And										And
so										so
essentially									essentially
Netter										Netter
there										there
is										is
saying										saying
that										that
as										as
the										the
economic									economic
hardships									hardships
were										were
growing										growing
due										due
to										to
the										the
COVID										COVID
pandemic									pandemic
so										so
does										does
the										the
power										power
of										of
the										the
Education									Education
Secretary									Secretary
Miguel										Miguel
Cardona										Cardona
Those										Those
powers										powers
grow										grow
as										as
well										well
they										they
grow										grow
with										with
it										it
and										and
he										he
specifically									specifically
argued										argued
against										against
this										this
this										this
front										front
that										that
the										the
states										states
were										were
bringing									bringing
forward										forward
saying										saying
that										that
these										these
national									national
this										this
national									national
emergency									emergency
statute										statute
only										only
applies										applies
to										to
specific									specific
military									military
activity									activity
It										It
applies										applies
to										to
military									military
members										members
service										service
members										members
and										and
Netter										Netter
said										said
no										no
historically									historically
that's										that's
not										not
the										the
case										case
under										under
this										this
law										law
that										that
look										look
when										when
you										you
think										think
about										about
a										a
hurricane									hurricane
government									government
doesn't										doesn't
provide										provide
relief										relief
just										just
when										when
the										the
hurricane									hurricane
is										is
spinning									spinning
He										He
said										said
that										that
after										after
a										a
national									national
emergency									emergency
happens										happens
or										or
a										a
national									national
disaster									disaster
like										like
that										that
that										that
the										the
government									government
has										has
to										to
help										help
people										people
come										come
out										out
of										of
that										that
come										come
out										out
of										of
the										the
economic									economic
hardships									hardships
or										or
the										the
infrastructure									infrastructure
hardships									hardships
that										that
are										are
brought										brought
upon										upon
by										by
national									national
emergencies									emergencies
Laura										Laura
what										what
about										about
the										the
whole										whole
racial										racial
equity										equity
part										part
of										of
this										this
We										We
heard										heard
the										the
Biden										Biden
administration									administration
message										message
that										that
as										as
an										an
underpinning									underpinning
to										to
why										why
they										they
were										were
rolling										rolling
out										out
this										this
loan										loan
forgiveness									forgiveness
plan										plan
they										they
said										said
it										it
would										would
especially									especially
help										help
black										black
borrowers									borrowers
How										How
does										does
that										that
factor										factor
into										into
their										their
argument									argument
So										So
the										the
states										states
today										today
were										were
saying										saying
this										this
is										is
only										only
going										going
to										to
provide										provide
relief										relief
to										to
wealthy										wealthy
individuals									individuals
to										to
higher										higher
income										income
individuals									individuals
and										and
what										what
the										the
administration									administration
essentially									essentially
is										is
saying										saying
back										back
is										is
that										that
well										well
you										you
have										have
to										to
look										look
at										at
actually									actually
who										who
the										the
borrowers									borrowers
are										are
for										for
these										these
loan										loan
programs									programs
and										and
for										for
the										the
loan										loan
forgiveness									forgiveness
program										program
it										it
would										would
significantly									significantly
impact										impact
black										black
borrowers									borrowers
Specifically									Specifically
the										the
average										average
debt										debt
for										for
black										black
borrowers									borrowers
is										is
10,000										10,000
more										more
than										than
for										for
white										white
borrowers									borrowers
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Pell										Pell
Grant										Grant
recipients									recipients
are										are
twice										twice
as										as
likely										likely
to										to
be										be
black										black
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another										another
big										big
piece										piece
of										of
this										this
is										is
the										the
federal										federal
family										family
education									education
loan										loan
borrowers									borrowers
which										which
was										was
at										at
first										first
a										a
part										part
of										of
the										the
announcement									announcement
when										when
the										the
administration									administration
said										said
they										they
were										were
going										going
to										to
provide										provide
this										this
big										big
cancellation									cancellation
of										of
debt										debt
then										then
they										they
ended										ended
up										up
taking										taking
that										that
out										out
of										of
the										the
guidance									guidance
saying										saying
that										that
these										these
borrowers									borrowers
would										would
not										not
provide										provide
would										would
not										not
be										be
given										given
this										this
relief										relief
and										and
that										that
was										was
a										a
big										big
piece										piece
of										of
this										this
this										this
lawsuit										lawsuit
because										because
essentially									essentially
you										you
know										know
the										the
states										states
are										are
arguing										arguing
that										that
that										that
they										they
get										get
state										state
revenues									revenues
from										from
the										the
companies									companies
that										that
take										take
on										on
that										that
those										those
loans										loans
from										from
those										those
borrowers									borrowers
but										but
but										but
the										the
government									government
is										is
saying										saying
that										that
ultimately									ultimately
the										the
relief										relief
provided									provided
to										to
these										these
borrowers									borrowers
is										is
far										far
outweighs									outweighs
the										the
state										state
revenue										revenue
that										that
would										would
ultimately									ultimately
be										be
lost										lost
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again										again
on										on
the										the
FFEL										FFEL
borrowers									borrowers
the										the
federal										federal
family										family
loan										loan
borrowers									borrowers
the										the
administration									administration
has										has
tried										tried
to										to
make										make
clear										clear
that										that
while										while
they										they
may										may
not										not
receive										receive
relief										relief
now										now
that										that
ultimately									ultimately
the										the
Education									Education
Department									Department
is										is
trying										trying
to										to
find										find
an										an
alternative									alternative
pathway										pathway
for										for
them										them
Before										Before
anyone										anyone
can										can
get										get
any										any
relief										relief
they										they
have										have
to										to
fill										fill
out										out
an										an
application									application
We've										We've
been										been
anticipating									anticipating
the										the
release										release
of										of
that										that
application									application
form										form
from										from
the										the
White										White
House										House
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do										do
we										we
know										know
about										about
that										that
So										So
they										they
just										just
issued										issued
a										a
preview										preview
of										of
this										this
application									application
form										form
this										this
week										week
the										the
White										White
House										House
did										did
and										and
essentially									essentially
what										what
borrowers									borrowers
have										have
to										to
do										do
they										they
have										have
to										to
give										give
social										social
security									security
numbers										numbers
their										their
date										date
of										of
birth										birth
their										their
email										email
but										but
they										they
also										also
have										have
to										to
click										click
this										this
box										box
that										that
certifies									certifies
under										under
penalty										penalty
of										of
perjury										perjury
that										that
they										they
meet										meet
the										the
income										income
thresholds									thresholds
Now										Now
some										some
of										of
those										those
borrowers									borrowers
will										will
be										be
provided									provided
just										just
based										based
on										on
that										that
certification									certification
will										will
be										be
provided									provided
relief										relief
others										others
are										are
going										going
to										to
have										have
to										to
show										show
more										more
proof										proof
that										that
they										they
meet										meet
those										those
income										income
thresholds									thresholds
that										that
you										you
outlined									outlined
earlier										earlier
Now										Now
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spoke										spoke
to										to
White										White
House										House
Assistant									Assistant
Press										Press
Secretary									Secretary
Abdullah									Abdullah
Hassan										Hassan
today										today
and										and
he										he
said										said
that										that
essentially									essentially
as										as
the										the
lawsuit										lawsuit
is										is
proceed										proceed
as										as
the										the
lawsuits									lawsuits
are										are
proceeding									proceeding
because										because
there's										there's
more										more
than										than
just										just
the										the
one										one
we										we
talked										talked
about										about
today										today
that										that
the										the
White										White
House										House
is										is
gonna										gonna
still										still
move										move
forward										forward
with										with
implementing									implementing
this										this
plan										plan
Now										Now
no										no
relief										relief
is										is
gonna										gonna
be										be
felt										felt
prior										prior
to										to
October										October
23rd										23rd
but										but
the										the
application									application
process										process
is										is
going										going
to										to
be										be
rolled										rolled
out										out
this										this
month										month
So										So
folks										folks
can										can
check										check
that										that
out										out
and										and
start										start
to										to
apply										apply
if										if
they										they
are										are
eligible									eligible
White										White
House										House
correspondent									correspondent
Laura										Laura
Barone-Lopez									Barone-Lopez
following									following
it										it
all										all
Thank										Thank
you										you
so										so
much										much
Thank										Thank
you										you
Election									Election
night										night
is										is
less										less
than										than
a										a
month										month
away										away
and										and
we're										we're
digging										digging
into										into
some										some
key										key
races										races
that										that
could										could
determine									determine
the										the
balance										balance
of										of
power										power
in										in
Congress									Congress
Lisa										Lisa
Desjardins									Desjardins
has										has
more										more
Let's										Let's
talk										talk
about										about
control										control
of										of
the										the
House										House
of										of
Representatives									Representatives
To										To
take										take
over										over
the										the
House										House
Republicans									Republicans
need										need
to										to
gain										gain
just										just
five										five
total										total
seats										seats
next										next
month										month
net										net
Their										Their
party										party
may										may
have										have
a										a
slight										slight
advantage									advantage
from										from
redistricting									redistricting
but										but
there										there
are										are
dozens										dozens
of										of
competitive									competitive
races										races
including									including
more										more
than										than
30										30
currently									currently
rated										rated
as										as
toss-ups									toss-ups
To										To
take										take
a										a
good										good
look										look
at										at
the										the
map										map
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joined										joined
by										by
three										three
public										public
media										media
reporters									reporters
Karen										Karen
Kastler										Kastler
of										of
Ohio										Ohio
Public										Public
Radio										Radio
and										and
Television									Television
Scott										Scott
Schaeffer									Schaeffer
with										with
KQED										KQED
in										in
California									California
and										and
Zoe										Zoe
Clark										Clark
with										with
Michigan									Michigan
radio										radio
So										So
happy										happy
to										to
have										have
all										all
of										of
you										you
together									together
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
this										this
Each										Each
of										of
your										your
states										states
has										has
lost										lost
a										a
congressional									congressional
district									district
because										because
of										of
redistricting									redistricting
but										but
you										you
also										also
each										each
have										have
a										a
clutch										clutch
of										of
competitive									competitive
races										races
that										that
could										could
determine									determine
control										control
of										of
the										the
House										House
I										I
wonder										wonder
if										if
you										you
can										can
just										just
set										set
the										the
mood										mood
for										for
us										us
What's										What's
on										on
voters										voters
minds										minds
Everything									Everything
from										from
the										the
weather										weather
to										to
redistricting									redistricting
to										to
issues										issues
that										that
you										you
think										think
might										might
be										be
affecting									affecting
their										their
vote										vote
and										and
let's										let's
start										start
out										out
West										West
with										with
you										you
Scott										Scott
Schaeffer									Schaeffer
Yeah										Yeah
well										well
California									California
has										has
an										an
unusual										unusual
system										system
for										for
creating									creating
redistricting									redistricting
It's										It's
a										a
citizens									citizens
commission									commission
It's										It's
not										not
gerrymandering									gerrymandering
where										where
the										the
districts									districts
are										are
designed									designed
to										to
protect										protect
the										the
incumbents									incumbents
and										and
so										so
we										we
have										have
four										four
to										to
six										six
competitive									competitive
House										House
races										races
here										here
in										in
California									California
including									including
probably									probably
two										two
of										of
the										the
ten										ten
most										most
vulnerable									vulnerable
Republicans									Republicans
David										David
Valadeo										Valadeo
in										in
the										the
Central										Central
Valley										Valley
and										and
Mike										Mike
Garcia										Garcia
in										in
Los										Los
Angeles										Angeles
Both										Both
of										of
them										them
running										running
in										in
plus										plus
you										you
know										know
plus										plus
D										D
districts									districts
where										where
Democrats									Democrats
outnumber									outnumber
Republicans									Republicans
In										In
terms										terms
of										of
you										you
know										know
the										the
seat										seat
that										that
we										we
lost										lost
Karen										Karen
Bass										Bass
decided										decided
not										not
to										to
run										run
for										for
re-election									re-election
She's										She's
the										the
LA										LA
Congresswoman									Congresswoman
She's										She's
now										now
running										running
for										for
mayor										mayor
of										of
Los										Los
Angeles										Angeles
which										which
of										of
course										course
is										is
dominating									dominating
the										the
headlines									headlines
not										not
in										in
very										very
good										good
ways										ways
But										But
in										in
terms										terms
of										of
issues										issues
in										in
terms										terms
of										of
these										these
congressional									congressional
races										races
you										you
know										know
it's										it's
a										a
competing									competing
narrative									narrative
Republicans									Republicans
want										want
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
gas										gas
prices										prices
and										and
the										the
economy										economy
and										and
Democrats									Democrats
want										want
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
abortion									abortion
rights										rights
and										and
about										about
threats										threats
to										to
democracy									democracy
and										and
so										so
you've										you've
got										got
these										these
competing									competing
narratives									narratives
that										that
are										are
playing										playing
out										out
on										on
the										the
campaign									campaign
trail										trail
and										and
on										on
television									television
and										and
in										in
addition									addition
I										I
would										would
say										say
that										that
Republicans									Republicans
also										also
want										want
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
crime										crime
and										and
immigration									immigration
but										but
much										much
more										more
so										so
than										than
abortion									abortion
rights										rights
Zoe										Zoe
Clark										Clark
what's										what's
going										going
on										on
in										in
Michigan									Michigan
I										I
know										know
it's										it's
college										college
football									football
season										season
Are										Are
politics									politics
breaking									breaking
through										through
there										there
in										in
general										general
It										It
actually									actually
is										is
if										if
you										you
can										can
imagine										imagine
it's										it's
not										not
just										just
Spartans									Spartans
and										and
Wolverines									Wolverines
here										here
in										in
Michigan									Michigan
although									although
the										the
weather										weather
always										always
is										is
something									something
we										we
talk										talk
about										about
No										No
much										much
like										like
what										what
Scott										Scott
said										said
indeed										indeed
it										it
is										is
about										about
the										the
economy										economy
it										it
is										is
about										about
inflation									inflation
it										it
is										is
about										about
gas										gas
prices										prices
but										but
since										since
the										the
Dobbs										Dobbs
decision									decision
here										here
in										in
Michigan									Michigan
abortion									abortion
really										really
has										has
become										become
something									something
that										that
has										has
changed										changed
the										the
dynamic										dynamic
We										We
have										have
a										a
amendment									amendment
that's										that's
going										going
to										to
be										be
on										on
the										the
ballot										ballot
in										in
November									November
that										that
would										would
enshrine									enshrine
reproductive									reproductive
rights										rights
abortion									abortion
rights										rights
into										into
the										the
state										state
Constitution									Constitution
and										and
so										so
on										on
top										top
of										of
these										these
really										really
must										must
watch										watch
congressional									congressional
seats										seats
some										some
of										of
the										the
most										most
competitive									competitive
in										in
the										the
country										country
abortion									abortion
is										is
sort										sort
of										of
overshadowing									overshadowing
the										the
conversation									conversation
when										when
it										it
comes										comes
to										to
all										all
of										of
these										these
races										races
Karen										Karen
Kassler										Kassler
is										is
that										that
what										what
you're										you're
finding										finding
next										next
door										door
in										in
Ohio										Ohio
is										is
abortion									abortion
overshadowing									overshadowing
other										other
issues										issues
Well										Well
I										I
can't										can't
let										let
Zoe										Zoe
talk										talk
about										about
those										those
teams										teams
without										without
mentioning									mentioning
the										the
Ohio										Ohio
State										State
Buckeyes									Buckeyes
and										and
football									football
here										here
is										is
of										of
course										course
dominating									dominating
conversation									conversation
but										but
yes										yes
there's										there's
a										a
lot										lot
of										of
conversation									conversation
also										also
about										about
the										the
few										few
competitive									competitive
districts									districts
here										here
our										our
most										most
competitive									competitive
seat										seat
and										and
race										race
really										really
is										is
the										the
Ohio										Ohio
US										US
Senate										Senate
race										race
but										but
there										there
in										in
Ohio										Ohio
we're										we're
starting									starting
early										early
voting										voting
today										today
and										and
it's										it's
interesting									interesting
to										to
note										note
that										that
Ohio										Ohio
went										went
from										from
16										16
to										to
15										15
districts									districts
and										and
majority									majority
Republicans									Republicans
drew										drew
maps										maps
that										that
were										were
ruled										ruled
unconstitutional								unconstitutional
several										several
times										times
by										by
the										the
Ohio										Ohio
Supreme										Supreme
Court										Court
we're										we're
actually									actually
running										running
elections									elections
this										this
year										year
on										on
maps										maps
that										that
were										were
ruled										ruled
unconstitutional								unconstitutional
but										but
put										put
into										into
place										place
by										by
a										a
federal										federal
court										court
and										and
so										so
while										while
we										we
are										are
electing									electing
representatives									representatives
through										through
these										these
maps										maps
this										this
time										time
around										around
those										those
could										could
change										change
based										based
on										on
the										the
results										results
of										of
what										what
happens										happens
in										in
the										the
election									election
next										next
month										month
so										so
there										there
are										are
only										only
about										about
there										there
are										are
10										10
safe										safe
districts									districts
and										and
five										five
Democratic									Democratic
seats										seats
but										but
only										only
a										a
couple										couple
are										are
really										really
considered									considered
very										very
competitive									competitive
Yeah										Yeah
Karen										Karen
I										I
want										want
to										to
come										come
back										back
to										to
you										you
I'm										I'm
going										going
to										to
talk										talk
to										to
all										all
of										of
you										you
about										about
favorite									favorite
races										races
but										but
Karen										Karen
let's										let's
start										start
there										there
in										in
Ohio										Ohio
and										and
your										your
favorite									favorite
races										races
one										one
that										that
I'm										I'm
watching									watching
there										there
obviously									obviously
is										is
one										one
of										of
the										the
longest										longest
serving										serving
women										women
in										in
Congress									Congress
Marcy										Marcy
Captor										Captor
that's										that's
a										a
race										race
where										where
it's										it's
not										not
just										just
issues										issues
but										but
also										also
the										the
effect										effect
perhaps										perhaps
of										of
President									President
Trump										Trump
and										and
the										the
2020										2020
election									election
can										can
you										you
talk										talk
about										about
that										that
race										race
and										and
what										what
you're										you're
watching									watching
there										there
in										in
that										that
Toledo										Toledo
area										area
If										If
that										that
race										race
is										is
really										really
tightened									tightened
up										up
a										a
lot										lot
Marcy										Marcy
Captor										Captor
running										running
against										against
a										a
political									political
newcomer									newcomer
Jay										Jay
Armajewski									Armajewski
who										who
really										really
broke										broke
out										out
when										when
he										he
got										got
the										the
attention									attention
of										of
Donald										Donald
Trump										Trump
by										by
painting									painting
a										a
picture										picture
of										of
Trump										Trump
on										on
his										his
lawn										lawn
and										and
Trump										Trump
shouted										shouted
out										out
to										to
him										him
at										at
a										a
rally										rally
he										he
ended										ended
up										up
winning										winning
beating										beating
some										some
other										other
established									established
politicians									politicians
and										and
now										now
he										he
and										and
Marcy										Marcy
Captor										Captor
are										are
facing										facing
off										off
Armajewski									Armajewski
has										has
made										made
headlines									headlines
recently									recently
because										because
he										he
has										has
claimed										claimed
that										that
he										he
saw										saw
combat										combat
in										in
Afghanistan									Afghanistan
but										but
an										an
investigation									investigation
has										has
shown										shown
that										that
that's										that's
not										not
the										the
case										case
he										he
also										also
has										has
said										said
he										he
was										was
at										at
the										the
Capitol										Capitol
on										on
January										January
6th										6th
he										he
has										has
not										not
been										been
charged										charged
with										with
anything									anything
but										but
that										that
all										all
of										of
this										this
has										has
made										made
this										this
race										race
a										a
little										little
bit										bit
more										more
competitive									competitive
and										and
House										House
Republicans									Republicans
have										have
actually									actually
pulled										pulled
their										their
ads										ads
in										in
this										this
race										race
so										so
that										that
really										really
has										has
tightened									tightened
things										things
up										up
also										also
there's										there's
an										an
open										open
seat										seat
that										that
features									features
two										two
women										women
Amelia										Amelia
Sykes										Sykes
the										the
former										former
Democratic									Democratic
leader										leader
of										of
the										the
Ohio										Ohio
House										House
and										and
Madison										Madison
Jesse										Jesse
Odo										Odo
Gilbert										Gilbert
a										a
Trump										Trump
endorsed									endorsed
Republican									Republican
this										this
will										will
make										make
history										history
in										in
that										that
one										one
of										of
those										those
win										win
and										and
only										only
12										12
Ohio										Ohio
women										women
have										have
ever										ever
been										been
elected										elected
to										to
Congress									Congress
from										from
the										the
state										state
so										so
that's										that's
gonna										gonna
make										make
history										history
there										there
with										with
that										that
race										race
That's										That's
fascinating									fascinating
I										I
like										like
that										that
Ohio										Ohio
13										13
race										race
too										too
because										because
that's										that's
a										a
very										very
rust										rust
belt										belt
seat										seat
that										that
might										might
tell										tell
us										us
something									something
about										about
the										the
Senate										Senate
race										race
as										as
it										it
evolves										evolves
over										over
the										the
night										night
speaking									speaking
of										of
let's										let's
go										go
back										back
to										to
you										you
in										in
Michigan									Michigan
then										then
Zoe										Zoe
you										you
have										have
one										one
of										of
the										the
most										most
expensive									expensive
House										House
races										races
in										in
the										the
country										country
among										among
others										others
that										that
I										I
know										know
you're										you're
watching									watching
where										where
Alyssa										Alyssa
Slotkin										Slotkin
the										the
incumbent									incumbent
Democrat									Democrat
is										is
really										really
kind										kind
of										of
a										a
must-win									must-win
seat										seat
for										for
Democrats									Democrats
if										if
they										they
have										have
any										any
hope										hope
of										of
holding										holding
the										the
house										house
Absolutely									Absolutely
and										and
this										this
district									district
is										is
fascinating									fascinating
so										so
it										it
went										went
for										for
Donald										Donald
Trump										Trump
in										in
2016										2016
it										it
went										went
for										for
Trump										Trump
in										in
2020										2020
but										but
Alyssa										Alyssa
Slotkin										Slotkin
has										has
won										won
it										it
two										two
times										times
so										so
she's										she's
looking										looking
for										for
a										a
third										third
win										win
here										here
now										now
it's										it's
going										going
to										to
be										be
in										in
the										the
now										now
seventh										seventh
congressional									congressional
district									district
because										because
of										of
redistricting									redistricting
and										and
she's										she's
always										always
out										out
performed									performed
as										as
a										a
Democrat									Democrat
but										but
she										she
has										has
a										a
conservative									conservative
Republican									Republican
challenger									challenger
state										state
senator										senator
Tom										Tom
Barrett										Barrett
again										again
like										like
we've										we've
been										been
talking										talking
about										about
this										this
narrative									narrative
he's										he's
trying										trying
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
the										the
economy										economy
he's										he's
trying										trying
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
inflation									inflation
he's										he's
trying										trying
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
Joe										Joe
Biden										Biden
and										and
I										I
was										was
just										just
talking										talking
to										to
Alyssa										Alyssa
Slotkin										Slotkin
the										the
Congresswoman									Congresswoman
today										today
and										and
she's										she's
talking										talking
fundamentally									fundamentally
about										about
rights										rights
and										and
what										what
she										she
wants										wants
to										to
see										see
happen										happen
change										change
in										in
DC										DC
including									including
interestingly									interestingly
enough										enough
I										I
thought										thought
immigration									immigration
she										she
said										said
in										in
the										the
state										state
of										of
Michigan									Michigan
as										as
well										well
as										as
the										the
cost										cost
of										of
child										child
care										care
meanwhile									meanwhile
we										we
also										also
have										have
the										the
third										third
congressional									congressional
district									district
now										now
this										this
one										one
is										is
just										just
fascinating									fascinating
this										this
is										is
where										where
Peter										Peter
Meyer										Meyer
a										a
freshman									freshman
Republican									Republican
within										within
the										the
first										first
few										few
days										days
of										of
being										being
sworn										sworn
in										in
voted										voted
to										to
impeach										impeach
Donald										Donald
Trump										Trump
for										for
the										the
second										second
time										time
and										and
Peter										Peter
Meyer										Meyer
lost										lost
his										his
primary										primary
in										in
August										August
to										to
a										a
former										former
Trump										Trump
official									official
John										John
Gibbs										Gibbs
and										and
so										so
this										this
really										really
is										is
an										an
open										open
seat										seat
now										now
we										we
have										have
a										a
Democrat									Democrat
running										running
it										it
looks										looks
like										like
it										it
could										could
lean										lean
Democrat									Democrat
more										more
because										because
of										of
again										again
this										this
redistricting									redistricting
but										but
it										it
probably									probably
would										would
have										have
been										been
closer										closer
had										had
Peter										Peter
Meyer										Meyer
won										won
this										this
seat										seat
but										but
again										again
conservative									conservative
Republicans									Republicans
kicked										kicked
him										him
out										out
booted										booted
him										him
out										out
and										and
went										went
with										with
this										this
Trump										Trump
endorsed									endorsed
Republican									Republican
instead										instead
and										and
it										it
looks										looks
like										like
this										this
could										could
be										be
a										a
Democratic									Democratic
win										win
Scott										Scott
you										you
hear										hear
Zoe										Zoe
talking										talking
about										about
a										a
place										place
that										that
Democrats									Democrats
hope										hope
to										to
flip										flip
in										in
this										this
year										year
I										I
know										know
you've										you've
got										got
one										one
of										of
those										those
two										two
and										and
you										you
just										just
mentioned									mentioned
it										it
earlier										earlier
tell										tell
tell										tell
us										us
about										about
Congressman									Congressman
David										David
Valadeo										Valadeo
and										and
what										what
you're										you're
seeing										seeing
in										in
California									California
yeah										yeah
so										so
he										he
lost										lost
this										this
seat										seat
in										in
2018										2018
and										and
then										then
got										got
it										it
back										back
in										in
2020										2020
so										so
he										he
actually									actually
voted										voted
to										to
impeach										impeach
Donald										Donald
Trump										Trump
but										but
he's										he's
getting										getting
protection									protection
from										from
that										that
Trump										Trump
hasn't										hasn't
gone										gone
after										after
him										him
because										because
his										his
district									district
is										is
right										right
next										next
to										to
Kevin										Kevin
McCarthy									McCarthy
in										in
fact										fact
it										it
includes									includes
part										part
of										of
Bakersfield									Bakersfield
his										his
hometown									hometown
so										so
he's										he's
running										running
against										against
Rudy										Rudy
Salas										Salas
in										in
a										a
district									district
that										that
is										is
59%										59%
Latino										Latino
Rudy										Rudy
Salas										Salas
would										would
be										be
the										the
first										first
Latino										Latino
member										member
of										of
Congress									Congress
from										from
the										the
Central										Central
Valley										Valley
ever										ever
he's										he's
also										also
co-sponsored									co-sponsored
our										our
proposition									proposition
one										one
which										which
would										would
enshrine									enshrine
abortion									abortion
rights										rights
here										here
in										in
California									California
one										one
other										other
quickly										quickly
Lisa										Lisa
race										race
I'm										I'm
looking										looking
at										at
this										this
the										the
41st										41st
Congressional									Congressional
District									District
in										in
Riverside									Riverside
Ken										Ken
Calvert										Calvert
30										30
year										year
Republican									Republican
incumbent									incumbent
has										has
easily										easily
gotten										gotten
reelected									reelected
but										but
they										they
redistricting									redistricting
has										has
taken										taken
out										out
some										some
of										of
the										the
most										most
conservative									conservative
parts										parts
of										of
his										his
district									district
and										and
added										added
Palm										Palm
Springs										Springs
and										and
other										other
districts									districts
with										with
a										a
lot										lot
of										of
LGBT										LGBT
voters										voters
he										he
has										has
a										a
history										history
of										of
anti-gay									anti-gay
positions									positions
and										and
campaigning									campaigning
and										and
he's										he's
running										running
against										against
an										an
openly										openly
gay										gay
federal										federal
prosecutor									prosecutor
who										who
prosecuted									prosecuted
some										some
of										of
the										the
January										January
6										6
cases										cases
and										and
of										of
course										course
Calvert										Calvert
did										did
not										not
vote										vote
to										to
certify										certify
the										the
election									election
so										so
lots										lots
of										of
interesting									interesting
cross										cross
currents									currents
there										there
I've										I've
been										been
hearing										hearing
from										from
you										you
all										all
about										about
the										the
2020										2020
election									election
some										some
about										about
former										former
President									President
Trump										Trump
I										I
just										just
want										want
to										to
show										show
of										of
hands										hands
on										on
this										this
last										last
question									question
which										which
might										might
be										be
a										a
little										little
unusual										unusual
but										but
have										have
you										you
spoken										spoken
to										to
any										any
Democrats									Democrats
in										in
tough										tough
races										races
in										in
your										your
states										states
who										who
would										would
like										like
President									President
Biden										Biden
to										to
come										come
and										and
campaign									campaign
for										for
them										them
I										I
want										want
to										to
see										see
a										a
hand										hand
if										if
anyone										anyone
has										has
talked										talked
to										to
a										a
Democrat									Democrat
like										like
that										that
so										so
there										there
we										we
go										go
both										both
the										the
former										former
president									president
and										and
the										the
current										current
president									president
seemed										seemed
to										to
be										be
on										on
the										the
ballot										ballot
this										this
year										year
in										in
the										the
2022										2022
midterms									midterms
we										we
are										are
so										so
grateful									grateful
to										to
all										all
of										of
you										you
for										for
joining										joining
us										us
Karen										Karen
Kassler										Kassler
Scott										Scott
Schaeffer									Schaeffer
Zoe										Zoe
Clark										Clark
thank										thank
you										you
all										all
thank										thank
you										you
great										great
to										to
be										be
here										here
and										and
thank										thank
you										you
to										to
our										our
Lisa										Lisa
Desjardins									Desjardins
in										in
another										another
battleground									battleground
state										state
Wisconsin									Wisconsin
the										the
Senate										Senate
and										and
governor's									governor's
races										races
are										are
in										in
the										the
spotlight									spotlight
and										and
while										while
younger										younger
Americans									Americans
traditionally									traditionally
show										show
up										up
to										to
the										the
polls										polls
at										at
lower										lower
rates										rates
than										than
older										older
generations									generations
one										one
recent										recent
study										study
suggests									suggests
young										young
voters										voters
could										could
play										play
a										a
decisive									decisive
role										role
in										in
the										the
state's										state's
elections									elections
this										this
November									November
Judy										Judy
Woodruff									Woodruff
recently									recently
sat										sat
down										down
with										with
a										a
group										group
of										of
high										high
school										school
and										and
college										college
students									students
in										in
Wisconsin									Wisconsin
who'll										who'll
be										be
voting										voting
for										for
the										the
first										first
time										time
thank										thank
you										you
so										so
much										much
for										for
joining										joining
us										us
for										for
this										this
conversation									conversation
we										we
really										really
appreciate									appreciate
it										it
you										you
all										all
the										the
reason										reason
we										we
have										have
you										you
here										here
is										is
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
the										the
fact										fact
that										that
this										this
is										is
the										the
first										first
year										year
you're										you're
gonna										gonna
be										be
voting										voting
and										and
we										we
want										want
to										to
talk										talk
about										about
what										what
that										that
means										means
to										to
you										you
so										so
Ryan										Ryan
I'm										I'm
gonna										gonna
start										start
with										with
you										you
how										how
big										big
a										a
deal										deal
is										is
it										it
to										to
you										you
that										that
you're										you're
gonna										gonna
be										be
voting										voting
for										for
the										the
first										first
time										time
I										I
mean										mean
it's										it's
pretty										pretty
big										big
deal										deal
for										for
me										me
I										I
mean										mean
I										I
sort										sort
of										of
see										see
it										it
as										as
sort										sort
of										of
like										like
when										when
you're										you're
16										16
you										you
get										get
your										your
driver's									driver's
license										license
when										when
you're										you're
18										18
you										you
get										get
to										to
vote										vote
I										I
actually									actually
registered									registered
to										to
vote										vote
in										in
my										my
AP										AP
government									government
class										class
on										on
my										my
birthday									birthday
which										which
was										was
a										a
fun										fun
experience									experience
it's										it's
very										very
easy										easy
to										to
register									register
online										online
now										now
I've										I've
been										been
very										very
politically									politically
engaged										engaged
throughout									throughout
high										high
school										school
and										and
I'm										I'm
excited										excited
to										to
get										get
my										my
foot										foot
in										in
the										the
door										door
and										and
actually									actually
have										have
a										a
voice										voice
in										in
my										my
government									government
and										and
then										then
you're										you're
turning										turning
18										18
just										just
in										in
time										time
to										to
vote										vote
in										in
early										early
November									November
how										how
big										big
a										a
deal										deal
for										for
you										you
I										I
am										am
very										very
excited										excited
to										to
vote										vote
everyone									everyone
my										my
family										family
has										has
always										always
voted										voted
and										and
although									although
not										not
a										a
ton										ton
of										of
people										people
my										my
age										age
do										do
vote										vote
as										as
it's										it's
one										one
of										of
like										like
the										the
lower										lower
turnout										turnout
groups										groups
I'm										I'm
very										very
excited										excited
to										to
vote										vote
because										because
I										I
think										think
having										having
that										that
voice										voice
in										in
our										our
elections									elections
is										is
really										really
important									important
what										what
is										is
it										it
that										that
you										you
care										care
about										about
a										a
lot										lot
this										this
year										year
that										that
is										is
driving										driving
you										you
especially									especially
to										to
want										want
to										to
vote										vote
in										in
2022										2022
I										I
do										do
see										see
the										the
candidates									candidates
but										but
I										I
see										see
pro-choice									pro-choice
and										and
pro-life									pro-life
personally									personally
I										I
am										am
extremely									extremely
pro-choice									pro-choice
I've										I've
always										always
grown										grown
up										up
with										with
the										the
belief										belief
that										that
women										women
should										should
be										be
able										able
to										to
have										have
bodily										bodily
autonomy									autonomy
in										in
our										our
government									government
I										I
agree										agree
with										with
the										the
pro-choice									pro-choice
movement									movement
I										I
think										think
women										women
have										have
been										been
stripped									stripped
of										of
their										their
bodily										bodily
autonomy									autonomy
specifically									specifically
in										in
this										this
state										state
and										and
I										I
think										think
that										that
it										it
disproportionately								disproportionately
affects										affects
women										women
of										of
color										color
and										and
women										women
from										from
more										more
low-income									low-income
communities									communities
in										in
the										the
disproportionate								disproportionate
effect										effect
that										that
that										that
has										has
on										on
their										their
access										access
to										to
health										health
care										care
their										their
access										access
to										to
reproductive									reproductive
justice										justice
that										that
right										right
there's										there's
their										their
right										right
to										to
be										be
a										a
mother										mother
or										or
to										to
choose										choose
not										not
to										to
be										be
is										is
frustrating									frustrating
to										to
witness										witness
as										as
somebody									somebody
who										who
can										can
be										be
subjected									subjected
to										to
these										these
laws										laws
so										so
that										that
for										for
me										me
is										is
very										very
top										top
of										of
mine										mine
for										for
me										me
it's										it's
our										our
economy										economy
I										I
mean										mean
I										I
see										see
on										on
the										the
decline										decline
everything									everything
seems										seems
more										more
expensive									expensive
our										our
gas										gas
is										is
more										more
expensive									expensive
it's										it's
such										such
a										a
up										up
and										and
down										down
you										you
don't										don't
know										know
what's										what's
gonna										gonna
happen										happen
with										with
it										it
and										and
for										for
me										me
it's										it's
scary										scary
it's										it's
especially									especially
scary										scary
because										because
with										with
everything									everything
on										on
the										the
rise										rise
I										I
have										have
celiac										celiac
disease										disease
I										I
already										already
spent										spent
an										an
arm										arm
and										and
a										a
leg										leg
for										for
my										my
food										food
that's										that's
going										going
to										to
end										end
up										up
hurting										hurting
people										people
whenever									whenever
they										they
can't										can't
afford										afford
the										the
food										food
they										they
need										need
to										to
feed										feed
their										their
families									families
as										as
the										the
son										son
of										of
two										two
teachers									teachers
education									education
is										is
a										a
very										very
big										big
issue										issue
for										for
me										me
I										I
personally									personally
I										I
think										think
that										that
everyone									everyone
should										should
have										have
access										access
to										to
quality										quality
education									education
whether										whether
that										that
be										be
you										you
know										know
good										good
schools										schools
good										good
public										public
education									education
or										or
access										access
to										to
college										college
and										and
less										less
college										college
debt										debt
I										I
think										think
my										my
biggest										biggest
issue										issue
is										is
voting										voting
really										really
in										in
terms										terms
of										of
the										the
amount										amount
of										of
people										people
that										that
can't										can't
vote										vote
under										under
our										our
current										current
system										system
we										we
have										have
a										a
lot										lot
of										of
law										law
from										from
Wisconsin's									Wisconsin's
especially									especially
voter										voter
ID										ID
laws										laws
that										that
make										make
it										it
very										very
hard										hard
for										for
people										people
to									  |	about
vote									  <
another										another
big										big
thing										thing
on										on
my										my
mind										mind
is										is
health										health
care										care
seeing										seeing
Ron										Ron
Johnson										Johnson
vote										vote
against										against
the										the
access										access
to										to
insulin										insulin
was										was
hugely										hugely
disappointing									disappointing
to										to
me										me
as										as
a										a
diabetic									diabetic
seeing										seeing
that										that
it										it
well										well
it										it
does										does
not										not
directly									directly
affect										affect
me										me
there's										there's
many										many
people										people
in										in
my										my
situation									situation
where										where
that										that
bill										bill
would										would
have										have
hugely										hugely
helped										helped
them										them
and										and
people										people
are										are
going										going
to										to
die										die
if										if
when										when
people										people
make										make
decisions									decisions
like										like
that										that
let's										let's
talk										talk
about										about
the										the
person										person
in										in
office										office
right										right
now										now
President									President
Biden										Biden
how										how
do										do
you										you
think										think
he's										he's
doing										doing
I										I
think										think
that										that
with										with
any										any
president									president
there										there
will										will
almost										almost
always										always
be										be
the										the
argument									argument
that										that
they										they
are										are
not										not
doing										doing
enough										enough
and										and
I										I
think										think
that										that
I										I
can										can
say										say
that										that
about										about
Biden										Biden
right										right
now										now
the										the
new										new
decision									decision
to										to
pardon										pardon
thousands									thousands
of										of
people										people
on										on
low-level									low-level
federal										federal
marijuana									marijuana
charges										charges
is										is
a										a
great										great
decision									decision
I										I
think										think
with										with
his										his
decision									decision
to										to
help										help
with										with
student										student
debt										debt
though										though
he										he
campaigned									campaigned
on										on
bigger										bigger
promises									promises
I										I
think										think
that										that
at										at
least										least
he										he
fulfilled									fulfilled
it										it
somewhat									somewhat
and										and
I										I
think										think
you										you
can										can
always										always
ask										ask
for										for
more										more
but										but
I										I
will										will
say										say
that										that
I										I
am										am
relatively									relatively
pleased										pleased
with										with
how										how
he's										he's
doing										doing
so										so
far										far
I										I
believe										believe
that										that
he's										he's
not										not
delivering									delivering
on										on
campaign									campaign
promises									promises
that										that
he										he
made										made
such										such
as										as
protecting									protecting
our										our
right										right
to										to
choose										choose
I										I
would										would
like										like
to										to
see										see
him										him
do										do
a										a
bit										bit
more										more
to										to
serve										serve
the										the
general										general
American									American
people										people
is										is
there										there
one										one
thing										thing
you'd										you'd
like										like
to										to
see										see
him										him
do										do
that										that
I										I
would										would
like										like
to										to
see										see
him										him
codify										codify
Roe										Roe
or										or
make										make
a										a
more										more
of										of
a										a
effort										effort
to										to
I										I
know										know
that										that
he										he
can't										can't
actually									actually
write										write
a										a
lot										lot
so										so
I										I
would										would
like										like
to										to
see										see
him										him
protect										protect
that										that
right										right
I										I
would										would
like										like
to										to
see										see
him										him
ask										ask
the										the
Senate										Senate
and										and
ask										ask
the										the
passive										passive
representatives									representatives
to										to
protect										protect
that										that
right										right
I										I
want										want
to										to
see										see
him										him
fight										fight
tooth										tooth
and										and
nail										nail
for										for
that										that
right										right
but										but
I										I
haven't										haven't
seen										seen
that										that
so										so
far										far
soren										soren
what										what
about										about
you										you
what										what
is										is
your										your
sense										sense
of										of
how										how
President									President
Biden's										Biden's
doing										doing
I										I
quite										quite
don't										don't
like										like
President									President
Biden										Biden
certainly									certainly
wouldn't									wouldn't
have										have
been										been
my										my
first										first
choice										choice
nor										nor
would										would
have										have
Donald										Donald
Trump										Trump
and										and
my										my
first										first
choice										choice
for										for
this										this
election									election
or										or
for										for
the										the
previous									previous
election									election
I										I
think										think
he's										he's
doing										doing
well										well
enough										enough
for										for
now										now
but										but
I										I
don't										don't
think										think
he										he
is										is
doing										doing
enough										enough
what										what
do										do
you										you
think										think
he										he
should										should
be										be
doing										doing
that										that
he's										he's
not										not
doing										doing
well										well
for										for
what										what
I										I
think										think
he										he
is										is
Afghans										Afghans
simple										simple
out										out
was										was
a										a
disaster									disaster
he										he
left										left
so										so
many										many
people										people
it										it
was										was
petrifying									petrifying
he's										he's
not										not
doing										doing
enough										enough
on										on
the										the
border										border
we										we
have										have
almost										almost
hundreds									hundreds
of										of
thousands									thousands
of										of
people										people
getting										getting
in										in
and										and
it's										it's
scary										scary
knowing										knowing
you										you
don't										don't
know										know
who										who
those										those
people										people
are										are
there's										there's
so										so
much										much
more										more
that										that
he										he
could										could
be										be
doing										doing
that										that
he's										he's
not										not
and										and
he										he
that										that
I										I
don't										don't
know										know
if										if
he's										he's
made										made
effort										effort
to										to
try										try
or										or
not										not
Maya										Maya
what										what
what										what
is										is
your										your
sense										sense
of										of
how										how
President									President
Biden's										Biden's
doing										doing
I										I
think										think
if										if
I										I
had										had
voted										voted
in										in
the										the
2020										2020
presidential									presidential
election									election
I										I
would										would
have										have
voted										voted
for										for
Biden										Biden
I										I
think										think
he										he
is										is
not										not
living										living
up										up
to										to
the										the
promises									promises
he										he
made										made
but										but
I										I
don't										don't
know										know
of										of
any										any
president									president
that										that
has										has
so										so
I										I
don't										don't
think										think
that										that
that's										that's
a										a
fair										fair
standard									standard
to										to
hold										hold
him										him
at										at
I										I
think										think
as										as
a										a
first-hand									first-hand
recipient									recipient
of										of
what										what
the										the
student										student
loan										loan
forgiveness									forgiveness
was										was
my										my
mom										mom
fought										fought
for										for
the										the
United										United
States										States
Army										Army
for										for
four										four
years										years
was										was
a										a
recipient									recipient
of										of
the										the
GI										GI
bill										bill
got										got
an										an
associates									associates
in										in
nursing										nursing
and										and
still										still
had										had
loans										loans
so										so
for										for
her										her
to										to
loans										loans
to										to
be										be
completely									completely
forgiven									forgiven
means										means
an										an
incredible									incredible
amount										amount
well										well
I										I
would										would
like										like
for										for
Biden										Biden
to										to
have										have
John										John
done										done
more										more
where										where
we										we
live										live
in										in
such										such
a										a
polarized									polarized
country										country
right										right
now										now
that										that
despite										despite
his										his
efforts										efforts
to										to
get										get
things										things
done										done
it's										it's
just										just
so										so
hard										hard
right										right
now										now
to										to
get										get
anything									anything
through										through
which										which
is										is
like										like
obviously									obviously
I'd										I'd
like										like
you										you
know										know
marijuana									marijuana
to										to
be										be
legalized									legalized
I'd										I'd
like										like
to										to
live										live
in										in
a										a
country										country
where										where
row										row
is										is
codified									codified
where										where
abortions									abortions
are										are
available									available
I'd										I'd
love										love
to										to
live										live
in										in
a										a
country										country
where										where
they										they
were										were
I										I
don't										don't
have										have
to										to
worry										worry
about										about
student										student
loan										loan
debt										debt
but										but
it's										it's
just										just
hard										hard
to										to
get										get
through										through
all										all
of										of
that										that
right										right
now										now
in										in
how										how
the										the
state										state
of										of
America										America
is										is
today										today
a										a
couple										couple
of										of
you										you
have										have
mentioned									mentioned
or										or
alluded										alluded
to										to
former										former
President									President
Trump										Trump
Amaya										Amaya
what's										what's
your										your
take										take
on										on
the										the
former										former
president									president
I										I
grew										grew
up										up
in										in
a										a
very										very
isolated									isolated
in										in
a										a
very										very
white										white
populated									populated
community									community
and										and
I										I
had										had
never										never
experienced									experienced
the										the
difference									difference
that										that
I										I
was										was
black										black
and										and
to										to
help										help
Trump										Trump
was										was
in										in
presidency									presidency
that										that
complete									complete
isolation									isolation
that										that
was										was
brought										brought
on										on
just										just
by										by
this										this
political									political
figure										figure
we										we
had										had
among										among
facilities									facilities
in										in
my										my
community									community
that										that
were										were
destroyed									destroyed
in										in
the										the
name										name
of										of
Trump										Trump
we										we
had										had
monuments									monuments
that										that
were										were
destroyed									destroyed
in										in
the										the
name										name
of										of
Trump										Trump
we										we
had										had
people										people
who										who
were										were
attacked									attacked
in										in
the										the
name										name
of										of
Trump										Trump
and										and
I										I
think										think
he										he
brought										brought
up										up
the										the
worst										worst
in										in
people										people
and										and
he										he
supported									supported
and										and
he										he
didn't										didn't
correct										correct
that										that
behavior									behavior
and										and
I										I
believe										believe
no										no
president									president
would										would
ever										ever
do										do
that										that
Catherine									Catherine
he										he
by										by
all										all
accounts									accounts
disgraced									disgraced
America										America
in										in
the										the
January										January
6th										6th
insurrection									insurrection
he										he
though										though
the										the
hearings									hearings
are										are
still										still
going										going
on										on
personally									personally
I										I
believe										believe
that										that
he										he
incited										incited
the										the
insurrection									insurrection
and										and
sent										sent
a										a
mob										mob
of										of
angry										angry
people										people
to										to
the										the
Capitol										Capitol
which										which
is										is
completely									completely
undemocratic									undemocratic
and										and
he										he
also										also
did										did
not										not
facilitate									facilitate
a										a
peaceful									peaceful
transfer									transfer
of										of
power										power
which										which
has										has
been										been
an										an
American									American
tradition									tradition
for										for
hundreds									hundreds
of										of
years										years
which										which
upset										upset
me										me
greatly										greatly
I										I
did										did
do										do
support										support
Trump										Trump
and										and
have										have
for										for
quite										quite
a										a
while										while
I										I
mean										mean
during										during
that										that
time										time
period										period
he										he
had										had
the										the
nation										nation
the										the
best										best
economic									economic
period										period
we										we
had										had
for										for
quite										quite
a										a
long										long
time										time
he										he
kept										kept
us										us
very										very
well										well
unfortunately									unfortunately
he										he
did										did
have										have
his										his
wrong										wrong
doings										doings
and										and
has										has
been										been
a										a
nasty										nasty
person										person
and										and
has										has
almost										almost
always										always
been										been
but										but
he										he
also										also
was										was
the										the
person										person
politically									politically
wise										wise
he										he
ran										ran
America										America
as										as
a										a
business									business
in										in
my										my
opinion										opinion
he										he
ran										ran
it										it
as										as
though										though
that's										that's
what										what
it										it
was										was
and										and
so										so
running										running
like										like
a										a
business									business
him										him
being										being
a										a
businessman									businessman
allowed										allowed
us										us
to										to
have										have
financial									financial
gain										gain
allowed										allowed
us										us
to										to
prosper										prosper
in										in
those										those
times										times
until										until
COVID										COVID
had										had
hit										hit
in										in
which										which
kind										kind
of										of
tanked										tanked
the										the
entire										entire
world										world
economy										economy
would										would
you										you
like										like
to										to
see										see
him										him
serve										serve
in										in
office										office
again										again
most										most
likely										likely
not										not
why										why
not										not
for										for
the										the
personal									personal
reason										reason
of										of
just										just
it										it
comes										comes
down										down
to										to
the										the
writing										writing
it										it
comes										comes
down										down
to										to
him										him
being										being
a										a
nasty										nasty
person										person
and										and
I										I
think										think
the										the
first										first
four										four
years										years
is										is
good										good
but										but
I										I
don't										don't
think										think
another										another
four										four
years										years
would										would
be										be
great										great
I										I
will										will
agree										agree
on										on
Soren										Soren
that										that
the										the
one										one
thing										thing
I										I
could										could
think										think
I										I
think										think
Donald										Donald
Trump										Trump
ever										ever
did										did
was										was
with										with
the										the
economy										economy
I										I
that										that
is										is
the										the
only										only
good										good
thing										thing
I										I
will										will
say										say
about										about
him										him
I										I
believe										believe
in										in
this										this
country										country
we										we
shouldn't									shouldn't
have										have
he's										he's
sort										sort
of										of
the										the
massive										massive
division									division
we										we
have										have
between										between
Republican									Republican
and										and
Democrat									Democrat
because										because
working										working
together									together
is										is
how										how
we										we
fix										fix
things										things
and										and
Donald										Donald
Trump										Trump
basically									basically
drove										drove
a										a
gigantic									gigantic
wedge										wedge
between										between
people										people
he										he
was										was
such										such
a										a
polarizing									polarizing
figure										figure
that										that
from										from
2016										2016
onwards										onwards
country										country
would										would
never										never
get										get
anything									anything
done										done
as										as
you										you
all										all
know										know
the										the
percentage									percentage
of										of
people										people
who										who
vote										vote
of										of
your										your
generation									generation
the										the
youngest									youngest
generation									generation
vote										vote
less										less
frequently									frequently
let										let
a										a
smaller										smaller
percentage									percentage
of										of
you										you
vote										vote
than										than
the										the
older										older
folks										folks
do										do
in										in
the										the
country										country
but										but
I										I
really										really
do										do
want										want
to										to
understand									understand
how										how
you										you
see										see
the										the
politicians									politicians
listening									listening
or										or
not										not
listening									listening
to										to
your										your
generation									generation
right										right
now										now
I										I
think										think
I										I
do										do
think										think
that										that
there										there
has										has
been										been
efforts										efforts
I										I
know										know
several										several
of										of
candidates									candidates
throughout									throughout
the										the
past										past
two										two
years										years
have										have
been										been
to										to
campuses									campuses
have										have
literally									literally
been										been
outreached									outreached
they										they
sit										sit
and										and
they										they
listen										listen
but										but
once										once
they're										they're
elected										elected
in										in
the										the
office										office
that										that
stops										stops
and										and
that										that
communication									communication
line										line
is										is
you're										you're
emailing									emailing
a										a
staffer										staffer
or										or
you're										you're
emailing									emailing
a										a
secretary									secretary
and										and
the										the
odds										odds
that										that
it										it
actually									actually
gets										gets
to										to
that										that
person										person
is										is
so										so
slim										slim
to										to
none										none
that										that
the										the
reality										reality
that										that
they're										they're
actually									actually
listening									listening
to										to
the										the
complaints									complaints
of										of
their										their
own										own
constituents									constituents
is										is
very										very
like										like
I										I
have										have
no										no
faith										faith
that										that
they										they
are										are
listening									listening
to										to
those										those
and										and
so										so
it's										it's
hard										hard
to										to
say										say
when										when
I										I
don't										don't
even										even
know										know
if										if
they're										they're
hearing										hearing
the										the
issues										issues
that										that
are										are
happening									happening
in										in
their										their
communities									communities
I										I
feel										feel
like										like
if										if
we										we
had										had
more										more
young										young
voters										voters
and										and
more										more
people										people
that										that
voted										voted
as										as
soon										soon
as										as
18										18
or										or
as										as
soon										soon
as										as
they										they
possibly									possibly
could										could
I										I
feel										feel
like										like
we										we
would										would
have										have
more										more
politicians									politicians
listening									listening
to										to
our										our
opinions									opinions
listening									listening
to										to
what										what
we										we
want										want
I										I
think										think
that										that
what										what
politicians									politicians
need										need
to										to
understand									understand
is										is
that										that
if										if
you										you
start										start
politically									politically
engaging									engaging
kids										kids
when										when
they're										they're
18										18
to										to
21										21
when										when
they're										they're
just										just
starting									starting
to										to
get										get
their										their
foot										foot
in										in
the										the
door										door
in										in
politics									politics
you're										you're
more										more
likely										likely
to										to
have										have
an										an
engaged										engaged
audience									audience
or										or
an										an
engaged										engaged
constituency									constituency
as										as
we										we
grow										grow
up										up
and										and
I										I
think										think
that										that
that's										that's
a										a
fact										fact
that's										that's
overlooked									overlooked
most										most
often										often
a										a
lot										lot
of										of
these										these
politicians									politicians
are										are
just										just
so										so
much										much
older										older
than										than
us										us
the										the
problems									problems
that										that
I										I
see										see
are										are
going										going
to										to
be										be
very										very
different									different
because										because
for										for
our										our
80										80
year										year
old										old
and										and
six										six
year										year
old										old
Senate										Senate
members										members
climate										climate
change										change
means										means
three										three
or										or
four										four
degrees										degrees
and										and
then										then
they										they
aren't										aren't
gonna										gonna
be										be
around										around
much										much
longer										longer
but										but
for										for
me										me
climate										climate
change										change
means										means
I										I
might										might
see										see
the										the
world										world
crumble										crumble
these										these
politicians									politicians
are										are
so										so
much										much
older										older
than										than
us										us
they've										they've
been										been
in										in
these										these
offices										offices
for										for
so										so
long										long
that										that
they										they
don't										don't
need										need
to										to
listen										listen
to										to
us										us
they've										they've
kind										kind
of										of
got										got
their										their
election									election
secured										secured
almost										almost
that										that
they										they
just										just
kind										kind
of										of
keep										keep
coming										coming
back										back
in										in
and										and
they										they
don't										don't
have										have
to										to
engage										engage
anymore										anymore
well										well
this										this
has										has
been										been
there's										there's
so										so
much										much
more										more
I'd										I'd
love										love
to										to
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