Forecast Hero BPB versus open-weight base models
The preregistered final Hero forecast of 2.0388 dropless Paloma macro-loss converts to 0.7406 BPB. Nemotron 3 Super measures 0.7918 BPB, Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-Base measures 0.8397 BPB, and Nemotron 3 Nano measures 0.8846 BPB. They are 6.9%, 13.4%, and 19.4% higher than the Hero forecast.
Paloma subset forecasts
Each panel composes the preregistered macro-loss scaling law with that subset's loss-to-BPB calibration. The calibrations use the same 77 ladder evaluations; the lowest R² is 0.971. Open-weight models appear at 6ND training-compute estimates. The Super model card reports 12B active parameters and over 25T training tokens, giving a lower-bound coordinate of 1.8e24 FLOPs. The Qwen model card reports 3B active parameters; the 36T-token assumption gives 6.48e23 FLOPs. The Nano model card reports 3.5B active parameters and 25T training tokens, giving 5.25e23 FLOPs. Exact FLOP totals for these hybrid MoE models are unknown.
| Paloma subset | Hero forecast | Super measured | Qwen measured | Nano measured |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4chan | 0.7788 | 0.7935 | 0.8828 | 0.8529 |
| C4 100 domains | 0.5923 | 0.6331 | 0.7045 | 0.7004 |
| C4 English | 0.6461 | 0.6752 | 0.7549 | 0.7472 |
| Dolma v1.5 | 0.5758 | 0.5937 | 0.6582 | 0.6621 |
| 100 programming languages | 0.2661 | 0.3235 | 0.3394 | 0.3926 |
| 100 subreddits | 0.8176 | 0.8415 | 0.9137 | 0.9192 |
| Falcon RefinedWeb | 0.6842 | 0.6982 | 0.7788 | 0.7716 |
| Gab | 1.2833 | 1.3595 | 1.4485 | 1.5994 |
| M2D2 S2ORC | 0.5403 | 0.5734 | 0.6037 | 0.6146 |
| M2D2 Wikipedia | 0.5360 | 0.5100 | 0.6250 | 0.5856 |
| Manosphere | 0.8471 | 0.8556 | 0.9310 | 0.9208 |
| mC4 | 0.5982 | 0.6272 | 0.7142 | 0.7094 |
| Penn Treebank | 0.5962 | 0.9985 | 0.7140 | 0.9696 |
| RedPajama | 0.4879 | 0.5029 | 0.5495 | 0.5667 |
| Twitter AAE | 2.1215 | 2.2443 | 2.2703 | 2.5942 |
| WikiText-103 | 0.4783 | 0.4380 | 0.5465 | 0.5466 |
Loss-to-BPB calibration
The forecast in issue #8435 is expressed as macro-loss. We fit a linear conversion to 77 paired eval_dropless/paloma/macro_loss and macro_bpb observations from the four scaling-ladder rungs. The fit has R²=0.99995; it predicts the measured current Hero BPB within 0.0010. Cluster bootstrapping the four rungs gives 0.7404–0.7432 BPB. This interval covers conversion uncertainty only; issue #8435 does not assign uncertainty to the final loss forecast.
Measured checkpoint results
UncheatableEval has no preregistered final-loss trajectory, so its comparison remains a measurement at Hero step 45,837. The final forecast shown above applies only to Paloma.
| Model / mode | Paloma macro BPB | UncheatableEval macro BPB |
|---|---|---|
| Hero final forecast | 0.740620 | — |
| Hero dropless · step 45,837 | 0.818798 | 0.536178 |
| Nemotron 3 Super-120B-A12B-Base | 0.791756 | 0.496361 |
| Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-Base | 0.839683 | 0.524489 |
| Nemotron 3 Nano-30B-A3B-Base | 0.884570 | 0.570292 |
Reproduction metadata
| Input | Revision | Documents |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen/Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-Base | 0f0813072d2358973511097385626f21fcb6d422 | |
| nvidia/NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Nano-30B-A3B-Base-BF16 | e0ac9ee3dfd02be21b5479edfc2f671ed269d0a2 | 161,940 |
| nvidia/NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Super-120B-A12B-Base-BF16 | b4cc202094ea3644bc4461c9fe58ec8b6a3695eb | 161,940 |
| allenai/paloma | 65cd6fc59dba021b21db414fa5e8d7765ffbe5e6 | 154,440 |
| UncheatableEval | 185c463882a8ae0f203e51ae5852d8cf4fe299cf | 7,052 |
| Scaling-ladder forecast script | d23e6e9c3673435fb82d83aa6c51a607d0da6009 | 77 paired evaluations |
The preregistered forecast assumes the 4K context length, original data mix, and token count used by the ladder. The Hero schedule and data mix may change before the end of training, so 0.7406 BPB is a counterfactual endpoint for the preregistered recipe, not a confidence interval for the eventual checkpoint.
Evaluation metrics JSON · Macro forecast JSON · Subset forecast JSON · Qwen Evalchemy result JSON · Nano result JSON · Super result JSON · Macro Plotly JSON · Subset Plotly JSON