Stages of awakening
Includes tags: Stages of awakening, Stream entry, Once return, Non-return, Arahant
12. “What does it mean – the four pairs, the eight kinds of noble beings – in the recollection of the Sangha?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Recollection/Saṅgha] [Chanting] [Stages of awakening] // [Commentaries]
Reference: Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 27: Recollection of the Saṅgha
1. “Realized beings abound these days. Care to comment? When the conditions are conducive and the inquiry is in earnest, is it possible to wake up quickly?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] [Saṅgha] [Progress of insight] [Ardency] [Conditionality] // [Patience] [Ajahn Pasanno]
Quote: “Buddhism hasn’t come to America yet.” — Ajahn Chah. [Ajahn Chah] [Culture/West] [Insight Meditation Society]
2. “Which suttas describe path and fruit?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] [Sutta]
Sutta: MN 70: Kīṭāgiri Sutta
7. “Was Ajahn Chah an anāgamī when Ajahn Chah got angry with that young monk? I thought the root of anger was uprooted at that stage.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Non-return] [Aversion]
4. “Please kindly explain the four pairs and the eight kinds of noble beings (Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 7).” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Recollection/Saṅgha] [Stages of awakening] // [Saṅgha] [Pāli]
14. “Was Ajahn Chah fully liberated? Do you know any living being who is?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Arahant]
Recollection: Ajahn Chah likened people speculating about his attainments to birds chattering in a tree. [Stages of awakening] [Similes]
17. “What are hallmarks or signs or markers of stream entry? Is this a realistic goal for a modern lay person?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry ] [Lay life] // [Faith] [Three Refuges] [Virtue] [Self-identity view] [Attachment to precepts and practices] [Doubt]
Quote: “If you’re going to have a goal in life, this is the one to have.” [Purpose/meaning] [Stream entry ]
Sutta: SN 55.5: Sāriputta teaches four factors of stream entry. [Factors for stream entry] [Association with people of integrity] [Hearing the true Dhamma] [Appropriate attention] [Practicing in accordance with Dhamma]
1. “Is it possible for a layperson to become an arahant? If so, is it appropriate to leave the lay life?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Lay life] [Arahant] [Monastic life]
3. “Do you think that a person needs to be on a long silent retreat in order to enter the stream?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Meditation retreats] [Stream entry] // [Hearing the true Dhamma]
2. “Thank you for this morning’s talk on the recollections and faith. Could you elaborate on your point about faith and anāgamī? Has anyone been fully liberated through faith?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Faith] [Non-return] [Liberation] // [Discernment] [Energy] [Faculties] [The New Yorker] [Culture/West]
Reflection: Faith is the trigger for letting go and relinquishment. [Relinquishment]
Sutta: MN 52: Delight in the Dhamma and the third stage of liberation. [Recollection/Dhamma] [Non-return]
1. “I have very little faith in the possibility of being enlightened in this lifetime; perhaps stream entry. Is stream entry a realistic possibility for many of us if leading householder lives?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Lay life] // [Purpose/meaning] [Liberation]
Sutta: SN 55.1: Unshakeable confidence and being established in virtue. [Three Refuges] [Faith] [Five Precepts] [Virtue]
Reference: The Island Chapters 16-19.
6. “What are the characteristics/attainments of the eight noble beings? Where are they described?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] // [Sutta] [Commentaries]
15. “Can you please speak about how one practices on the third path or what happens leading up to the third path attainment?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Non-return] // [Sensual desire] [Ill-will] [Relinquishment] [Concentration]
15. “What kind of suffering does a non-returner experience? What makes a non-returner become an arahant?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Non-return ] [Suffering] [Arahant] // [Conceit] [Fetters] [Craving for material existence] [Craving for immaterial existence] [Restlessness and worry]
14. “Are transitions from stream entry to once-returner and once-returner to non-returner subtle or are there strong insight experiences? Will one be able to tell if he or she has moved to the next stage?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Once return] [Non-return] // [Delusion]
5. “Was Ajahn Chah an arahant? How can one tell when someone’s work is done? Also, is it inappropriate to ask one’s teacher if they are a stream enterer, once-returner, etc.?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Arahant ] [Teachers] [Stages of awakening] // [Suffering] [Unwholesome Roots]
Quote: “To me, I’m more like a tree that birds can come and feed in....[What they say] I am is just the chattering of the birds.” — Ajahn Chah. [Similes] [Teaching Dhamma]
Sutta: AN 4.192: Discerning another person’s wisdom. [Discernment]
Recollections of mistaken estimates of enlightenment. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Arahant ] [Delusion] [Relics]
8. “How should a stream enterer skillfully deal with delusional others, especially when it comes to family members? I feel like things can get really weird when the view of a stream enterer is so different from the rest.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Delusion] [Family] // [Suffering] [Monastic life] [Views]
15. “So that glass of wine at dinner is going to eliminate my chances of stream entry? How about moderation in all things?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Intoxicants] [Stream entry]
10. “What’s the relationship between a deep insight experience (what’s called kensho in Zen) and stream entry?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Zen] [Insight meditation] [Stream entry] // [Ajahn Pasanno]
13. “Is the experience of Nibbāna (that is the cessation of all formations) the same for a stream enterer, once-returner, etc., or does the experience manifest differently depending on the level of realization? Do the suttas or commentaries touch on this subject? Any stories from the Forest Tradition related to it?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Nibbāna] [Stages of awakening] [Sutta] [Commentaries] // [Cessation] [Becoming] [Relinquishment]
22. “Can you please explain more about bodhisattva’s path? How can a being cultivate wisdom and avoid becoming a stream enterer? Bodhisattvas mus not realize the Dhamma all the way to last life, correct?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Bodhisattva] [Discernment] [Stream entry] // [Determination]
Story: Ajahn Mun persuades Ajahn Sao to relinquish his resolve to become a paccekabuddha. [Ajahn Sao] [Ajahn Mun] [Liberation] [Gratitude] [Psychic powers] [Paccekabuddha] [Arahant]
35. “Is the experience of jhāna required for stream entry?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Jhāna] [Stream entry] // [Hearing the true Dhamma] [Right View]
8. “How exactly does one enter the stream of Nibbāna for the first time (sotāpanna-magga)? Is it like the arising of jhāna where specific signs and sensations precede the actual arising? The Mahasi Sayadaw tradition teaches that there are 16 stages that precede the experience. Is this useful?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Nibbāna] [Stream entry] [Jhāna] [Mahasi Sayadaw] // [Commentaries] [Self-identity view] [Aggregates] [Right Effort]
Sutta: SN 55.5: Factors of Stream Entry. [Factors for stream entry]
2. “Is there anything in the chanting book about stream enters, non-returners, arahants? How is the [old] Abhayagiri Chanting Book organized? Why does the chanting book start with evening chanting? How does chanting support my practice?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Chanting ] [Stages of awakening] // [History/Thai Buddhism] [Ajahn Vajirayan] [Sutta] [History/Sri Lankan Buddhism] [Faith] [Energy]
Reference: Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 7: “The four pairs, the eight kinds of noble beings.”
Story: Ajahn Mahā Boowa tries to listen to Ajahn Mun’s solitary chanting. [Ajahn Mun] [Ajahn Mahā Boowa]
5. “How may the levels of concentration needed for each of the four stages of enlightenment be described? How can these be cultivated? Are the types of details seen prior to the different fruits different?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Concentration] [Stages of awakening] // [Relinquishment] [Insight meditation] [Sensual desire] [Self-identity view] [Cessation of Suffering]
12. “Since the suttas indicate that ‘dry insight’ meditators were a relative rarity, and both anger and greedy personalities would need a certain amount of samādhi or jhāna before being capable of deep insight, can it be assumed that jhāna is a prerequisite for stream entry for a majority of yogis? Did the Buddha recommend a certain amount of jhāna in part because the letting go that allows that state to aries also supports letting go of the self to drop into the stream of Nibbāna?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sutta] [Insight meditation] [Jhāna] [Stream entry] [Relinquishment] // [Commentaries] [Right Concentration] [Hearing the true Dhamma] [Virtue] [Right View]
10. “Would you discuss Buddhist rites and rituals regarding death and dying? What are the rites surrounding the death and cremation of an arahant?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ceremony/ritual] [Death ] [Funerals] [Arahant] // [Cultural context] [Recollection/Virtue] [Three Refuges] [Ajahn Pasanno] [Wat Pah Nanachat] [Culture/Thailand]
Recollections of Ajahn Chah’s funeral. [Ajahn Chah] [Wat Pah Pong] [Relics] [Ajahn Chah Stupa]
Follow-up: “Did you see Ajahn Chah’s relics?” [Amulets]
4. “Could you expand on the causes necessary to enter the stream? Is it simply a question of amassing these causes and the experience of the eventual fruit or does the practitioner also need to ‘get in shape’ like an athlete preparing for an event who must be in top form? If the latter simile applies, does the yogi need to give it his all or does he merely need to just hang in there long enough for the cause to bear fruit, with just the right amount of dynamic tension?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Conditionality] [Energy] // [Factors for stream entry] [Discernment]
Sutta: SN 55.5: Factors for stream entry explained in terms of the Eightfold Path. [Eightfold Path]
Simile of splitting a log with an axe. [Stream entry] [Right Effort] [Similes]
11. “Would you please explain bhāvanā-mayā paññā? What exactly is it? Does it only happen when we are at least a sotāpanna or can it happen to a puttujana? Does it only happen in one mind-moment and may happen again or does it stay with you once it happens?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Meditation] [Discernment] [Stream entry] [Time] [Impermanence] [Insight meditation] // [Commentaries] [Hearing the true Dhamma]
Note: A retreatant later explains that DN 33.1.10 (43) mentions the three kinds of wisdom.
12. “Luang Por Jumnien has said that 80% of the yogis he’s known who have entered the stream did so while listening to Dhamma. He also said that most were laywomen or nuns. What are your thoughts?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Jumnien] [Hearing the true Dhamma] [Stream entry] [Women in Buddhism] // [Psychic powers] [Sutta] [Right View] [Ajahn Chah]
Vinaya: Mahāvagga 1.10: Yasa’s friends listen with a mind ready to receive Dhamma.
17. “From reading about or hearing talks and stories of some of the great Thai Forest masters, its seems that many of them were particularly fascinated pre-enlightenment with a single Dhamma principle. They then intensely investigated said principle almost like a Zen koan until they entered the stream. Was the Dhamma koan the cause of their stream entry or was triggering it just part of the greater process?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Thai Forest Tradition] [Koan] [Stream entry] [Conditionality] // [Desire] [Insight meditation]
2. “Is it possible for an arahant to have seemingly negative thoughts or speech while free from defilement? In the Udana, Venerable Pilindavaccha gets complained about for calling monks outcastes or lowlings.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Arahant] [Unskillful qualities] [Great disciples] [Harsh speech]
Sutta: Ud 3.6: Pilindavaccha.
Quote: “Purity or impurity—you have to know for yourself.” — Ajahn Chah. [Ajahn Chah]
Vinaya: Khandhaka 18.11.14 and Khandhaka 18.12.4: Students and teachers are mutually accountable. [Vinaya] [Mentoring]
11. “Once I aspired to open my mind beyond this conditioned world. Now I mostly try to be at ease with my limitations. Am I mistargeting something important?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] [Unconditioned] [Contentment] // [Idealism] [Four Noble Truths]
13. “What are the four stages of enlightenment? What defilements have the four noble beings shed?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening ] [Unwholesome Roots] // [Drawbacks] [Liberation]
Quote: “When we think of enlightenment, it’s a being who is willing and able to relinquish those things that are complicating and constricting.” [Relinquishment]
12. “In ‘Homage to the Sangha’ chant, what are the ‘Four pairs, the eight kinds of Noble Beings?’” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Recollection/Saṅgha] [Stages of awakening]
9. “Is there consciousness (awareness, knowing) in the experience of nibbana or is there a complete cessation of all six senses, as some traditions say. (Particularly in relation to the experience of stream-entry, which is sometimes described as a cessation.)” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Nibbāna ] [Sense bases] [Stream entry] [Cessation] // [Liberation] [Ajahn Chah] [Sutta] [Thai Forest Tradition]
Sutta: SN 22.59.11 Anattalakkhaṇa Sutta: knowledge of liberation (Chanting Book translation).
20. “Can you talk about path and fruit in regards to the stages of awakening? What are they? How are they different?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening ] // [Insight meditation] [Relinquishment] [Fetters] [Stream entry] [Self-identity view] [Aggregates] [Attachment to precepts and practices] [Doubt] [Once return] [Sensual desire] [Ill-will] [Non-return] [Arahant]
1. “Was Ajahn Chah talking about samādhi or stream entry when he spoke about “not going backwards”?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Concentration] [Stream entry] [Ajahn Chah]
4. “A stream-enterer is said to come back no more than seven lifetimes. Why the number seven?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry]
5. “It seems unusual for a monk to talk about his meditative attainments. Is this unusual or frowned upon?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Monastic life] [Stages of awakening]
15. Discussion about faith followers and Dhamma followers. [Stream entry] [Stages of awakening] [Death] [Sutta]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Not-self] [Concentration] [Recollection/Death]
Reference: Collected Teachings of Ajahn Chah, pp. 441-445: Ajahn Chah comes down Pu Pek Mountain and nothing is the same. [Ajahn Chah]
Response by Ajahn Cunda. [Ajahn Amaro]
7. “Was there a time in Thailand when no one had any noble attainments?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno, Ajahn Jotipālo and Ajahn Cunda. [History/Thai Buddhism] [Stages of awakening] // [Chao Khun Upāli] [Ajahn Jayasaro] [Media]
Story: Prince Mongkut ordains seven times. Told by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Vajirayan] [Ordination] [Doubt]
9. “Why is the story of Sarakāni controversial in Sri Lanka?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Intoxicants] [History/Sri Lankan Buddhism] [Death] // [Stages of awakening]
Sutta: SN 55.24-25: Sarakāni
Comment by Ajahn Karuṇadhammo regarding the wide range of views about stream entry. [Stream entry] [Views]
1. “In what cases, if any, is it useful to try to assess whether stream entry has occurred? Or is this question best left aside?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] // [Proliferation]
Sutta: AN 3.12: The place where one attains stream entry is never forgotten. [Stream entry]
Suttas: SN 55.1, SN 55.42: Stream entry described in terms of faith in the Three Refuges, virtue, and generosity. [Stream entry] [Three Refuges] [Faith] [Virtue] [Generosity]
3. “Is walking meditation as ‘good’ as sitting meditation. Can one achieve the level of undistractedness that one needs to be able to investigate the human experience? Or is it part of the bigger picture of mindfulness for seven full days to experience stream entry?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Posture/Walking] [Posture/Sitting] [Insight meditation] [Stream entry] // [Meditation/General advice] [Continuity of mindfulness] [Concentration]
Stories about Ajahn Khao. [Ajahn Khao ]
Story: Walking meditation was Ajahn Khao’s preferred mode of practice. [Ajahn Khao ]
Story: Ajahn Khao’s relics were purple, clear, and incredibly beautiful. [Ajahn Khao ] [Relics] [Abhayagiri]
Recollection: Ajahn Khao expresses gratitude for the place he realized Awakening. [Ajahn Khao ] [Liberation] [Gratitude] [Lodging] [Bodhi Tree]
6. “What is a stream enterer? Can a stream enterer go back? Are there lay people who attain stream entry and remain in lay life?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Lay life] // [Stages of awakening] [Nibbāna] [Sutta] [Great disciples] [Purpose/meaning]
Written question in Thai: ขอโอกาสกร้าบพระเดชพระคุณหลวงพ่อ ถาม คําถาม Q: Stream enterer คืออะไร? การมุ่สู่โสดาปัตติผล? หรือการมุ่งสู่นิพพาน? Q: นอกจาก นางวิสาขา มหาอุบาสิตแล้ว มีฆราวาส/lay person คนใดบ้างที่เป็นเพียงคนธรรมดาไม่ได้ออกบวช แต่สามารถบรรลุโสดาปัตติผลได้? Q: ผู้ฏิบัติที่ยังมีสามี/ภรรยา สามารถจะมีวาสนาสั่งสมบุญบารมีเพือให้บรรลุสุ่โสดาปัตติผลได้ไหม? โดยที่ไม่ต้องเลิกร้าง/แยกเตียงกับคู่ครอง ขอแนวทางคิคด้วย [Question in Thai]
Reference: The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro
2. “How does a ‘stream enterer’ know in their next life that she/he is a stream enterer?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Rebirth]
2. “What is left once there is no self? Is it the same as enlightenment? Can a person still function in a daily life (drive a car for example)?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Self-identity view ] [Stages of awakening]
Quote: “What’s it like being the abbot of a big monastery?” — “I come out of my kuti and I do the things that I need to do, and then I go back to my kuti. And if some people want to call that being an abbot, well that’s their business.” — Ajahn Liem. Quoted by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Ajahn Liem ] [Abbot ] [Wat Pah Pong] [Work] [Conventions] [Simplicity]
1. “Do you need to be a non-returner to be free from the fear of death?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Non-return] [Fear] [Death] [Sensual desire] // [Arahant] [Conceit] [Stream entry] [Faith]
1. “Is it easy for a person with attainments to deal with the world?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] [Everyday life] // [Discernment] [Conceit] [Culture/West] [Wrong concentration]
Quote: “To push away the world is also to reifying it. One gives it power when one is afraid of it.” [Craving not to become] [Proliferation] [Fear]
Laypeople with highly developed meditation practice function well in the world. Comment by Ajahn Ñāṇiko. [Lay life] [Meditation/Results] [Energy]
7. “Are there different stages of enlightenment?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] // [Stream entry]
Follow-up: “And how would one know if you’ve reached the first stage [of awakening]?” [Stream entry] [Doubt] [Self-identity view] [Not-self] [Liberation] [Attachment to precepts and practices] [Knowledge and vision]
6. “Would you remind us what ‘the four pairs, the eight kinds of noble beings’ means and perhaps in a nutshell what is the English translation of the meal blessing?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Recollection/Saṅgha] [Stages of awakening] [Anumodanā]
27. “Do you think it’s possible to experience Nibbāna before becoming fully awakened - ‘moments of enlightenment?’ But if Nibbāna is beyond consciousness, would you remember that it happened?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Nibbāna] [Stages of awakening] [Consciousness] // [Stream entry ]
3. “What does the phrase “beyond good and evil” mean in reference to the mind of an arahant?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Arahant] [Skillful qualities] [Unskillful qualities] // [Thai]
Quote: “Above cause, beyond effect. Above good, beyond evil. Above merit, beyond demerit.” — Ajahn Chah. [Ajahn Chah] [Conditionality] [Merit]
4. “Does a sotāpanna keep the precepts perfectly?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry ] [Precepts] // [Virtue]
9. “If a sotapanna or sakadagami dies and takes birth as a human, are they born as a stream- enterer or once-returner respectively? Or do they return that attainment later in life?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Once return] [Rebirth]
12. “Will you briefly remind us who are “the four pairs, eight kinds of noble beings”?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening]
4. “When the Buddha mentions stream entry, he often mentions both sīla (virtue) and view.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Virtue] [Right View]
5. “What about Sarakāni (SN 55.24-25), the stream enterer who took to drink?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stream entry] [Intoxicants] // [Ajahn Chah] [Precepts]
Story: Ajahn Chah takes in a gangster. [Crime]
15. “When you have completed the practice, does everything become ‘down time?’” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] [Recreation/leisure/sport] // [Clinging] [Almsfood] [Culture/Natural environment]
Quote: “It’s because we reflect on these ‘serious things’ that we can hold things lightly.” [Recollection]
Suttas: MN 2.13: Reflection on the requisites; AN 5.208: Benefits of chewing toothwood
4. “What technique to use to realize the fruits of this practice in this life? What technique is easiest and most effective?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Meditation/Techniques ] [Stages of awakening] // [Ardency] [Energy] [Right Effort] [Learning] [Practicing in accordance with Dhamma]
Quote: “I can guarantee that looking for the easiest way is the least effective way.”
Quote: “Practice is one mistake after another.” — Dōgen. [Dōgen]
Story: Someone asks the Dalai Lama, “What is the easiest and quickest way to realize emptiness?” The Dalai Lama cries. [Dalai Lama] [Emptiness] [Fierce/direct teaching]
Sutta: AN 3.137: A teaching of effort.
1. “In the dialogue between Ānanda and Sariputta (AN 4.179), could you say more about the reason people don’t become enlightened in this lifetime?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Stages of awakening] // [Perception] [Conditionality] [Progress of insight]
6. “Going to Thailand—was it a divine plan or was it your own wish? Is enlightenment a path or a destination?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Pasanno] [God] [Purpose/meaning] [Stages of awakening] // [Skillful qualities] [Unconditioned] [Similes]
Quote: “None of the above.”
3. “Does it mean that these three stages [of awakening] are still shaky? Like they can still go back to thingness?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Stages of awakening] [Arahant] // [Stream entry] [Realms of existence] [Impermanence] [Once return] [Sensual desire] [Ill-will] [Non-return] [Fetters] [Ajahn Chah]
Reference: Śhūrangama Sūtra, Fifty Skandha Demon States.
3. “Could you clarify where Nibbāna fits into the different stages of enlightenment?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Nibbāna] [Stages of awakening] // [Stream entry] [Impermanence] [Insight meditation] [Relinquishment]
Sutta: AN 9.3: Meghiya (also at Ud 4.1).
Quote: “Sawahng, Sa-aht, Sangop” — “Bright, pure, peaceful” — many Thai Forest Tradition teachers. [Thai Forest Tradition]
6. “I thought there was a rule that you can’t talk about your attainments. But if 1,000 people became arahants, how did anyone know?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Vinaya] [Arahant] [Buddha/Biography] // [Psychic powers]
8. “Coming back to Arahantship, as Chris was mentioning, you’re not supposed to talk about your attainments, but is there a notion of how likely it is happening nowadays in the monastic community?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Arahant] [Vinaya] [Saṅgha] // [Ajahn Chah]
Quote: “Why do you want to know if I’m an arahant? It would be better for your to explore why you are not.” — Ajahn Chah. [Arahant]
10. “There are people who tend to teach a lot about the deva realm. One story says that in the first discourse thousands of devas were enlightened. I wonder if they were non-returners?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Deva] [Buddha/Biography] [Non-return] // [Great disciples] [Stream entry] [Ven. Ananda Maitreya]
Sutta: SN 56.11: Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta: The devas rejoicing.
2. “Did you just mention in The Dictionary of Pāli Proper Names that [Upaka] became an arahant on landing?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Non-return] [Arahant] // [Pure Land] [Rebirth] [Brahma gods]
Follow-up: “So people can get enlightened in different realms?” [Realms of existence] [Liberation]
4. “If someone disrobed but held the five or eight precepts, would the attain at least sotapanna?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Disrobing ] [Stream entry] // [Arahant] [Culture/West] [Buddha] [Monastic life/Motivation]
4. “One of the descriptions I’ve heard associated with stream entry is turning over or correcting something that was wrong....” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Stream entry] [Similes] // [Sutta]
Suttas: DN 10, MN 100, SN 7.22, AN 8.11, and many others end with: “...as if he were to place upright what was overturned....”
Follow-up: “Is there a description for the unfettering from sensual desire and ill-will?” [Non-return]
Responses by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Kaccāna. [Brahma gods] [Non-return]
Sutta: AN 7.55: Chip from a heated metal bowl.
4. “You read, ‘he realizes with the body’ (MN 70.23), and I read in one of the suttas (perhaps AN 4.113 or SN 48.53) that arahants touch Nibbāna with their body. Could you elaborate on this?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Body/form] [Arahant] [Nibbāna]
5. “Yesterday you mentioned that arahants as well take on some of these practices of the gradual path. What happens in their mind with these practices?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Arahant ] [Gradual Teaching] // [Liberation]
1. “Where is the path [of stream entry etc.] clearly defined?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Stages of awakening] // [Aids to Awakening] [Stream entry] [Recollection/Saṅgha] [Ajahn Chah]
Reference: Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 7: “The four pairs, the eight kinds of noble beings.”
Sutta: MN 70.20-21: Definitions of faith follower and Dhamma follower.
4. “When the Buddha addressed AN 7.61 to Mahā Mogallāna, was Mahā Mogallāna already and arahant?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Great disciples] [Arahant] // [Fetters] [Almsround] [Perception of a samaṇa]
Vinaya: Mahāvagga 1.23: Sāriputta meets Assaji and realizes stream entry after hearing a brief verse. [Stream entry]
1. “When you explained the four kinds of clinging, you said that sensual desire is more obvious [than the others]. But in terms of the different stages of realization, it’s not the first to go. Can you explain?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Clinging] [Sensual desire] [Stages of awakening] [Attachment to precepts and practices] // [Stream entry] [Once return] [Non-return] [Self-identity view]
Sutta: AN 3.68: Sensual desire fades slowly but has lesser negative consequences.
7. Comment by Tan Cittasaṃvaro: A stock phrase associated with stream entry is ‘independent of the teaching.’ It seems that although they are independent, [stream enterers] can still benefit from guidance. [Stream entry] [Self-reliance] [Hearing the true Dhamma]
Sutta: AN 3.128.
Response by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Faith] [Doubt] [Teaching Dhamma] [Ajahn Sumedho]
Sutta: MN 74.14: Sāriputta’s awakening. [Great disciples]
2. “You said that when a negative, unpleasant thought comes up, the noble being doesn’t want it but doesn’t act upon it. Is this taṇhā? Is it a mild form of craving, not wanting the thought?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Proliferation] [Arahant] [Craving] // [Knowledge and vision] [Non-identification] [Ajahn Dune] [Spaciousness]
Suttas: AN 9.7-8: What an arahant can’t do.
3. “When you are talking about Dependent Origination and craving, I thought that all of that had ceased for an arahant.” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Dependent origination] [Craving] [Arahant] [Cessation] // [Feeling] [Unskillful qualities] [Ignorance] [Māra]
Suttas: SN 4.6; SN 4.20: The Buddha’s encounters with Māra. [Buddha/Biography]
Sutta: MN 50: Mahā Mogallāna rebukes Māra. [Great disciples]
Sutta: SN 10.3: Sūciloma. [Non-human beings]
4. “In the mind of an arahant, are unwholesome states immediately seen through the filter of the Four Noble Truths so they are immediately let go?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Arahant] [Unskillful qualities] [Four Noble Truths] [Relinquishment] // [Māra]
Sutta: MN 49.29 [Brahma gods]
5. “I was trying to imagine what it would be like to look into the world through the eyes of an arahant. Something like looking through The Matrix or looking at people as children....” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Arahant]
Quote: “What is the mind of an arahant like?”—“Only compassion.” — Ajahn Mahā Boowa. Quoted by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Arahant] [Compassion]
Reflection by Ajahn Pasanno: Ajahn Chah’s form of compassion could be pretty demanding sometimes. [Ajahn Chah] [Fierce/direct teaching] [Patience] [Humor]
Reflection by Ajahn Kaccāna: From the perspective of an arahant, what drives the entire world is feeble (MN 112.6). [Arahant] [Aggregates] [Dispassion]